Buy a few less tanks, shoot a handful less patriot missiles, buy a couple less jets and America could afford to take care of its citizens. I mean health care with no premiums, where you go the the doctor and all they ask is that you are a citizen. If you want to pay more to get faster service, the private sector can take care of that need.
Actually my argument is that the FD has nothing to do with socialized medicine. It's a circular argument that I could come up with for almost any scenario.
And since he used it in the argument I said I was willing to drop govt paying for the fd, if it meant we could drop this whole insurance debacle - i'd still have an FD due to how we operate in the suburbs here.
BTW check out Camden. They have no FD locally anymore and its avoided burning down.
Because every thing the government gets involved in turns to shit.
Please name one successful program the government runs that isn't either broke, going broke or a complete waste.
It's going to take more than that, considering there's 3 million more people in State of California than in the Country of Canada. The US has almost 10 times the population of Canada.
See now this is the type of fact-free nonsense that I have no patience for. You have incontrovertible evidence that government run health care in other countries accomplishes the same objectives as well for much less money. Your response is "everything government touches is bad". That's not a response.
As for effective government programs: the interstate highway system, the vast improvement in public health through regulation, FDIC ending bank runs, etc, etc, etc. I could go on for literally pages, but it's totally off topic.
Please explain why the US is uniquely inept to the extent that we can't have a government run health system. Real answers please, not platitudes.
They are not uniquely inept at all. They are totally inept. The health care launch so far is proof. No security built into the site at all? ZERO? And we would trust them with all of our health records?
NO
You STILL aren't answering a very simple question. Other government have successfully implemented socialized health care. You claim the US cannot do this. That means that the United States must be incapable in a way that other governments are not. Please explain the reasons for this. Is our constitution a failure? What?
We can't pass a budget.
We can't fix social security.
We can't fix Medicaid.
We can't properly maintain our highways, bridges and tracks.
We can't do a damn thing.
We can't pass a budget.
We can't fix social security.
We can't fix Medicaid.
We can't properly maintain our highways, bridges and tracks.
We can't do a damn thing.
More importantly the idea that the number of ER visits will decrease is a myth.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/02/us-health-reform-er-idUSTRE7514VX20110602
You recognize nothing, not even bullshit when you continuously vomit it forth. You get nothing, beyond a blind foaming hatred any time anyone threatens the expansion of your free ride.
I don't think there's been two years in the last ten where we haven't met our deductible.
Um, my wife IS a woman, so we're already paying for "women's health". Maternity coverage and "free" birth control - we're beyond that age. Viagra - wasn't using it before, don't need it now. Mental health - nope, not a proggie, I have no emotional scars or daddy issues or raging jealousy to work through. There is absolutely nothing I'm receiving for my extra $1,000 OR the inflated premiums I'll now have to pay.
Until Obamacare, I had not realized that to proggies, "reform healthcare" meant "demolish healthcare." But thanks for playing "Foamy raging proggie".
And yes, I blame the people who gave us this obamanation more than I blame the people who tried and failed to stop it. Much, much more. Hopefully, the American people will continue doing the same come November.
It's going to take more than that, considering there's 3 million more people in State of California than in the Country of Canada. The US has almost 10 times the population of Canada.
You STILL aren't answering a very simple question. Other government have successfully implemented socialized health care. You claim the US cannot do this. That means that the United States must be incapable in a way that other governments are not. Please explain the reasons for this. Is our constitution a failure? What?
We can't pass a budget.
We can't fix social security.
We can't fix Medicaid.
We can't properly maintain our highways, bridges and tracks.
We can't do a damn thing.
Based on the results of healthcare.gov the answer would appear to be the Democratic Party.
We can do plenty when the republicans feel like behaving like anything other than children. Record breaking fillibusters(2x ever before), fillibustering THEIR OWN BILL, refusing to participate in ANY health reform(in the 90s, in the recent debate, which was their own plan, and they've never ONCE tried in the recent 12 years of government control), etc.
Based on the results of healthcare.gov the answer would appear to be the Democratic Party.
A website's functionality for a month determines our ability to accomplish something? WE NEED TO DISMANTLE THE MILITARY MACHINE NOW! ONE WEBSITE DID NOT WORK SO OUR GOVERNMENT IS THEREFORE INCAPABLE OF ANYYYYTHING!!!!!
QUICK, REMOVE MEDICARE! Do it, Republicans. Let's see how that works out for you!
I can't decide what's worse. Would it be worse if you were genuinely stupid enough to believe the things you write or would it be worse if you knew the things you were writing were stupid but decided to say them anyway?
Any thoughts?
Enough about you Republicans :biggrin:
You STILL aren't answering the question. It is a VERY simple one.
Why is the US uniquely inept, and why would this prevent us from accomplishing what so many other developed countries have?
Then after we identify the problem we can ask how we fix it, as apparently it is costing us a lot of money.
A website's functionality for a month determines our ability to accomplish something? WE NEED TO DISMANTLE THE MILITARY MACHINE NOW! ONE WEBSITE DID NOT WORK SO OUR GOVERNMENT IS THEREFORE INCAPABLE OF ANYYYYTHING!!!!!
QUICK, REMOVE MEDICARE! Do it, Republicans. Let's see how that works out for you!
I just listed a slew of reasons.
What exactly is your native language? I looked it up and google won't help me translate into moron for you to understand.
No, none of those were reasons. They were things that you think are not good. Not a single one had a cause or a listed attribute that was the reason for them being in a state you didn't like. This really would call into question what your native language is.
One final time:
Why is the US uniquely inept, and why would this prevent us from accomplishing what so many other developed countries have?
Let's be honest, we both know that the reason you aren't answering is that you can't.
I'm not trying to say its Dems that are the problem, its the whole government. What the hell have the repubs done other than piss off the dems only to completely give in? They are all a bunch of jackasses and they all need to be fired.