I think intelligent people can separate a bow of respect from a bow of deference to superiors. Of course, some people around here (Um, Cad?) don't fall into this group. In other news, wow, this thread is really going places.
so, why has state department protocol advocated not doing this for the past 200 years?^this. idiots.
No. It's entirely appropriate to call out the leader of our country for conveying that a different leader is "superior".
how low will he go
Clinton almost bowed and the NYT gave him a tongue lashing. What exactly does this full out bow along with the bow to the king tell us about Obowma? IMO, it shows he is weak and wants the US to outwardly appear weak/meek. Exactly the wrong message IMO.
Apologist unite?
Damn people. We are Americans. We fought a revolution against a monarchy so that we would never be sub servant to one again. American leaders do not bow to foreign leaders in any way. We don't bow before royalty. We don't lower our flag to other flags (re 1936 Olympics).
Obama continues on his apaolgy tour of the world and this is just another stop. He doesn't defend the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which saved 1m+ lives since we didnt have to invade). Hell, he doesn't even like the idea of victory in a war as his comments to ABC News show "I'm always worried about using the word 'victory,' because, you know, it invokes this notion of Emperor Hirohito coming down and signing a surrender to MacArthur". (Oh, and he's not that bright because Hirohito didnt sign the surrender, a general and a foreign minister did).
omg, obama just ensured pearl harbor II
someone tell michael bay so he can get the crappy movie started.
This just in: we have better standing with the japanese than with bush, this is one of the reasons why.
Unfortunately it is.
Here is the reasoning:
When you bow to someone that low you show you are inferior to them. That is the perceived notion that goes on here. Even if the Saudi King or the Japanese person had bowed back, the fact that he bowed low shows to them that their leaders are superior to ours.
Damn people. We are Americans. We fought a revolution against a monarchy so that we would never be sub servant to one again. American leaders do not bow to foreign leaders in any way. We don't bow before royalty. We don't lower our flag to other flags (re 1936 Olympics).
Obama continues on his apaolgy tour of the world and this is just another stop. He doesn't defend the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which saved 1m+ lives since we didnt have to invade). Hell, he doesn't even like the idea of victory in a war as his comments to ABC News show "I'm always worried about using the word 'victory,' because, you know, it invokes this notion of Emperor Hirohito coming down and signing a surrender to MacArthur". (Oh, and he's not that bright because Hirohito didnt sign the surrender, a general and a foreign minister did).
Bowing to see eye to eye is acceptable. I have stated that. It is a sign of respect.
Bowing much lower (sadly in both cases) is seen as a sign of being inferior. Why? The King and Emperor do NOT bow below anyone. They are perceived as being the highest ranked people in their countries and as thus will not bow that low. They most likely feel their country is the best in the world and thus would not insult their country (any homer should).
From the video of the Saudi King I saw, the King did not bow anywhere near as low as Obama. With the Japanese Emperor it may be harder to tell as he is short but in the picture he made a friendly gesture bow, but did not bow anywhere near the same as Obama.
They bow, whereas we salute in this country moreso. Same principle almost. The subordinate starts a salute, a superior starts and finishes the salute then the subordinate finishes his salute. A little different then the Eastern ways but the way it is done never changes.
It's really embarrassing when he bows like this. He looks like a slave. At the least he shows himself to be a pussy, and he gives the appearance that the US is subservient to a foreign nation.
As DealMonkey said -- think intelligent people can separate a bow of respect from a bow of deference to superiors. Of course, some people around here (Um, Cad?) don't fall into this group. In other news, wow, this thread is really going places.
With all the things which go in the world, I tend to ignore the trivial. This is trivial.
Health care? Bailouts? Sure. Bowing? "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
But our "image" is important. That's what the left has been chanting for the last 8 years - no?
You'd know all about being a pussy, wouldn't you? You should. That's our opinion of you.
But our "image" is important. That's what the left has been chanting for the last 8 years - no?
But our "image" is important. That's what the left has been chanting for the last 8 years - no?
Did you honestly think that America's president doesn't want America to win in its wars? Really? Doesn't that seem a little crazed to you?
But our "image" is important. That's what the left has been chanting for the last 8 years - no?