Another car split into half... (horrific accident)

DesiPower

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I remember a few months back it was a BMW somewhere in Europe..This time its a Subaru Impreza... what are these cars made of these days, card board??? jeezzzzzz

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/dead-single-car-crash-long-island-article-1.1177440

Joseph Beer lost control of the 2012 Subaru Impreza that friends said his parents just bought for him after he “failed to negotiate a curve,” State Police officials said.

The car, which Beer had been given for graduating early from Richmond Hill High School, split in two — and tossed the teens out like rag dolls.

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lxskllr

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Cars do that when they hit thin objects at high speed. I doubt he was anywhere close to the speed limit.
 

ElFenix

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those are STI limited wheels. that's a lot of power for a 17 year old in the middle of the night on a treacherous stretch of road.
 

mmntech

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The car is a Impreza WRX. Judging by the rims, it's an STI. No way I'd be giving a kid that young a car like that. It's too much power for a novice driver. Quite obvious he didn't know how to handle it.
 

Gooberlx2

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I doubt he was anywhere close to the speed limit.

I looked into getting a Subaru Outback Sport once (seemed like a reasonable Colorado car when I first moved here). Threw that out that window when I got the quote for insurance, despite being older than 25 and having an immaculate driving record at the time. The teen males zipping around in their WRXs ruin it for everyone else.
 

Mark R

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The car is a Impreza WRX. Judging by the rims, it's an STI. No way I'd be giving a kid that young a car like that. It's too much power for a novice driver. Quite obvious he didn't know how to handle it.

Agreed. Looking at the rims and tire profile - it looks like this is an STI limited. This is a 305 hp super-car, capable of 0-60 in just 4.8 seconds.

Like a modern supercar, it features state of the art safety systems, including a reinforced cabin, and all the electronic driving aids (e.g. stability control) that you could want. This is on-top of a precisely balanced and highly tuned sports-car chassis.

The way the car has been split in-half, looks like the roof impacted some sort of thin object - like a tree. This suggests that the car may have rolled before impacting something and splitting apart.

Without the full forensic examination, we can only speculate as to the cause. However, it seems likely that major contributing factors were that the vehicle was being driven too fast for the driver's skill and road conditions.
 

zephyrprime

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I remember a few months back it was a BMW somewhere in Europe..This time its a Subaru Impreza... what are these cars made of these days, card board??? jeezzzzzz
Cars of all types are much more durable and crashworthy than they used to be. Shit just happens sometimes.
 

Number1

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what are these cars made of these days, card board??? jeezzzzzz

You have no understanding of the forces involved in car crashes. My son went sideways into a turn and hit an incoming SUV. The car ended up in 2 pieces.

Simple physic.
 

JulesMaximus

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Kid had no business behind the wheel of a WRX-STi.

High speed and trees don't mix. The WRX is a fairly stout and safe car but trees don't give much so the car took all of the energy of the impact right in the middle.
 

gorcorps

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what are these cars made of these days, card board??? jeezzzzzz

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Much stronger stuff than they used to be. And they can get that strength with a lot less mass so the vehicles these days have less force at the same speed. They can't work miracles though... what were you expecting? Do you think that people never died in car accidents before now?
 

destrekor

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I looked into getting a Subaru Outback Sport once (seemed like a reasonable Colorado car when I first moved here). Threw that out that window when I got the quote for insurance, despite being older than 25 and having an immaculate driving record at the time. The teen males zipping around in their WRXs ruin it for everyone else.

Yeah, I want the WRX (STI if I can afford it whenever I get around to being able to afford a new car in the first place). I won't be happy with the insurance rates.

I was getting quotes earlier in the year, and for me it was around $120/month. I guess in some states/circumstances, the STI will have a lower insurance rate... basically due to the premium price; I guess it's figured that, since it's quite a bit more than the fairly entry-level performance sedan price tag of the WRX, that one is more likely to be more cautious and likely more mature. Which also makes sense considering the average age of an STI owner is quite a bit higher than the average for the WRX.

I'd rather the STI, for handling purposes (and it looks better), but I imagine if I am able to afford a car in the near future, I won't be able to afford the STI and would settle for the base Rex.


At any rate - with a learner's permit, can one drive with ANY 18 year old? For some reason, I thought it had to be a parent.

I know in Ohio, with a learner's permit, it is illegal to have more than one passenger in the car.

That much inexperience, plus that much power, with that many distractions... plus, like any kid, he's gonna showboat and try and impress the group in the car. That's a dangerous combination and yet again he proved why that is so.
We haven't had split-in-half car accidents around my city (that I am aware of), but we have had plenty of similar accidents under similar circumstances.

Mustangs, Trans-ams, Firebirds... they quite often found trees, and First Responders found bodies. It happened enough in Ohio to warrant a passenger limit - and they were being targeted for other distractions, like cell phones, prior to the current trend to ban them for everyone.


At the same rate - you can give a kid just about any car and some of them are gonna tread fine lines and test limits, some of them finding the lethal result of pushing past limits at the wrong time. It's hard to really blame anyone in particular - sure a powerful car will tempt some, but just about any car can get to lethal impact with tree speeds, and many are far more prone to lose grip when compared to a Rex.

As youngins, many of us probably tested similar limits, to varied levels of success. I had my own close calls when young, especially when I first got my Dakota (RWD). I hesitate to say it, but we've all been there. Some of us just had better luck in terms of timing for failures, for various reasons. Maybe we were more cautious around certain circumstances, and were only more daring when the road was wide open - and maybe only where it was straight.


As for cars splitting in half - it's not a failure of engineering. Most of these cars will actually survive far more than cars of yesteryear. Safety is constantly improving. As someone mentioned earlier - high speeds, plus the right angle of impact, with a well-anchored thin object (tree, pole, etc), can render steel as pliable as butter.
 

SlowSpyder

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I'm much more of a Lancer Evolution guy myself... though I'm sure the results would have been the same here.
 

chowderhead

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parents are to be blamed for giving the child this car and also for the fact that anyone under 18 in NY State with a learner's permit must be accompanied by a licensed driver over 21 just to try and prevent stupid reckless driving like this.
 

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lol, I know... the kid was probably drunk, the irony...

I doubt he was drunk. Probably got peer pressured and went out Joy-riding with his buddies in his new car. Blame the parents for buying him an STI. At that age, there's really no feeling of accountability. Kids think they're invincible and don't always consider others' safety. Parents should know this...

My brother is a very careful driver and just turned 18 but hell if I was gonna get him a nice car. Got him a $6k 2001 Toyota Corolla. The thing is safe, cheap and most importantly takes about 12 seconds to hit 60 and tops out around 85. No way he's doing any crazy driving shenanigans in that thing.
 
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As for cars splitting in half - it's not a failure of engineering. Most of these cars will actually survive far more than cars of yesteryear. Safety is constantly improving. As someone mentioned earlier - high speeds, plus the right angle of impact, with a well-anchored thin object (tree, pole, etc), can render steel as pliable as butter.
Also, back in the day cars were designed to be solid hunks of steel, which is fine for keeping the car relatively intact during a crash, which had the unfortunate side effect of sending all the energy from the crash into the occupants of the car. The reason cars today tend to take crashes "worse" than cars of previous generations is by design, with crumple zones taking the brunt of the energy of the crash instead of it all going to the occupants of the vehicle. Your car may get totaled by a lower speed collision, but the people inside are generally safer.

Not much is going to help you if you lose control of your car at high speed in a corner and smash into a tree though.
 

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Always seems like the driver survives in these ridiculous crashes.

If I were a parent, I'd be more scared of my kid hitching a ride with his idiot friend rather then them being the idiot driver.
 

Arkaign

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The car is a Impreza WRX. Judging by the rims, it's an STI. No way I'd be giving a kid that young a car like that. It's too much power for a novice driver. Quite obvious he didn't know how to handle it.

I came in here to post exactly this after seeing that it wasn't a vanilla WRX. A ton of power for a kid's car.

The worst thing about those cars (I don't mean that they suck by any means) is that they can cause underexperienced drivers to get WAY overconfident in the safe amount of speed they can handle. With the AWD setup and good tires, it can feel fairly safe even to drive in the wet at a good clip. That is deceptive, because road surfaces can really vary, and a fresh light rain can cause havoc on asphalt bringing up oils and such to the surface. Slick as shit, and the best tires and AWD in the world can't save you if you're driving like a retard.

Also, as noted, the destruction of that car is evidence that the vehicle struck something at a speed over 100mph, probably more like 120+.
 

spidey07

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Yep, car way to fast and gave a very false sense of security, not to mention the extra weight being tossed around. This kind of accident happens all the time unfortunately - new, young male driver and high powered sports car. Seems it happens at least once a year in my city.

But man, I want to know where I can get those lights in this picture. Look like mini LED chandolers
 

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Even a regular WRX would be too much power to give to someone with just a learners permit. Article made it sound like it was a run of the mill Impreza which is much more pedestrian. Both the WRX and STi will hit 60 in under 5 seconds and that kid was probably trying to do that when he lost control.
 

spidey07

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Even a regular WRX would be too much power to give to someone with just a learners permit. Article made it sound like it was a run of the mill Impreza which is much more pedestrian. Both the WRX and STi will hit 60 in under 5 seconds and that kid was probably trying to do that when he lost control.

And rain misted roads. Could have been VERY slick. Trees don't fuck around, even at 70 or less a tree could easily do that. They don't more.
 

boomhower

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Way to much car for an inexperienced driver. The parents should be ashamed of themselves. Want to reward him for finishing school early? Fine, buy him a Forester.
 
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