Another child molester/serial killer?

JulesMaximus

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http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sdcounty/article_9fce05c4-2715-11df-8aa1-001cc4c03286.html

A 17 year old high school senior went missing about a week ago, they found her body a couple days ago and arrested this guy on Sunday in connection with her disappearance. They think he may have had something to do with the disappearance of a 14 year old girl named Amber Dubois in February 2009. She disappeared in the same area but she was never found.

The court of public opinion certainly seems to think he's guilty. "On Wednesday morning, the garage of the Gardner family home in Rancho Bernardo was spray-painted in red with the message, "Chelsea's blood is on you. Move out."" Of course, they found the girl's underwear with blood on it, and Gardner's DNA was on it. Pretty damning evidence if you ask me.

More news came out this morning that neighbors reported teens coming and going from his apartment all the time. I guess he had kids over to play video games at his place...creepy.
 
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TehMac

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http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sdcounty/article_9fce05c4-2715-11df-8aa1-001cc4c03286.html

A 17 year old high school senior went missing about a week ago, they found her body a couple days ago and arrested this guy on Sunday in connection with her disappearance. They think he may have had something to do with the disappearance of a 14 year old girl named Amber Dubois in February 2009. She disappeared in the same area but she was never found.

The court of public opinion certainly seems to think he's guilty. "On Wednesday morning, the garage of the Gardner family home in Rancho Bernardo was spray-painted in red with the message, "Chelsea's blood is on you. Move out.""

More news came out this morning that neighbors reported teens coming and going from his apartment all the time. I guess he had kids over to play video games at his place...creepy.

FYI, this guy had been convicted of raping and murdering a girl in 2000, and was sentenced to at least 10 years in prison, but got out in 2006 on "good behavior."

Honestly, how many children do we have to lose until we realize these people are fucked up. Either castrate them or hang them high.

Convicted? Noose for you.



btw, they found the girl's underwear with blood on it, and Gardner's DNA was on it. Pretty damning evidence if you ask me. Again, why do we offer "mercy" to those who have no notion of mercy or human decency?
 

JulesMaximus

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FYI, this guy had been convicted of raping and murdering a girl in 2000, and was sentenced to at least 10 years in prison, but got out in 2006 on "good behavior."

Honestly, how many children do we have to lose until we realize these people are fucked up. Either castrate them or hang them high.

Convicted? Noose for you.



btw, they found the girl's underwear with blood on it, and Gardner's DNA was on it. Pretty damning evidence if you ask me. Again, why do we offer "mercy" to those who have no notion of mercy or human decency?

True, he definitely looks guilty as hell. I added that detail to my OP.

It is all over the news here locally. Can't believe there hasn't been a thread about it here.
 

olds

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Thread fail.
I thought you meant a new member on the forums.
 

mugs

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FYI, this guy had been convicted of raping and murdering a girl in 2000, and was sentenced to at least 10 years in prison, but got out in 2006 on "good behavior."

Really? The articles I read said 6 years was the sentence recommended by the prosecution as part of his plea bargain. A court-appointed psychiatrist recommended more, because the guy wouldn't admit to the crime.
 

highland145

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I'm 46 and I still don't get why these guys aren't in prison for life or executed. F-n liberal judges give them light sentences and let them out early. My guess is that they would not be so lenient if it were their child or grandchild. In favor of "Mob Rules" in cases like this.

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The articles I read said 6 years was the sentence recommended by the prosecution as part of his plea bargain.
WTF. Even the prosecutors need a clue?
 

Beev

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The death penalty needs to be used more, with less "paperwork" too. Guilty? Go meet the firing squad in ten minutes.
 

PingSpike

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How the fuck do you get 6 years for raping and murdering some one? That's complete horseshit, I've heard of white collar crimes getting more time than that. Looks like the plan worked real well, from the sounds of it he only got to murder two more girls. Hooray justice system.
 

Modelworks

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How the fuck do you get 6 years for raping and murdering some one? That's complete horseshit, I've heard of white collar crimes getting more time than that. Looks like the plan worked real well, from the sounds of it he only got to murder two more girls. Hooray justice system.

Not surprising.
The woman who took money for strangers to have sex with her 5 year old was released on bail. Even though the kid died as a result. She now is at home without house arrest or anything for the next two months until they start the trial.
 

highland145

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How the fuck do you get 6 years for raping and murdering some one? That's complete horseshit, I've heard of white collar crimes getting more time than that. Looks like the plan worked real well, from the sounds of it he only got to murder two more girls. Hooray justice system.

In S.C. white collar over $5k used to be 10 yrs and must serve 80%. Don't know if it still is. That was ~10 yrs ago when an employee got the company for $12K.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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The death penalty needs to be used more, with less "paperwork" too. Guilty? Go meet the firing squad in ten minutes.

You'll say that until someone accuses you of something. Death penalty should be used sparingly if at all. 6 years for rape and murder is criminal though he should have never gotten out.
 

Narmer

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6 years for rape and murder and 20+ years for ripping off Ticketmaster. Wow, the nation's laws are fucked up.
 

highland145

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You'll say that until someone accuses you of something. Death penalty should be used sparingly if at all. 6 years for rape and murder is criminal though he should have never gotten out.

Agree but if the evidence is air tight, fry them. If it were my child, I would pray that he gets out. That's my feelings speaking, not logic.
 

mugs

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How the fuck do you get 6 years for raping and murdering some one? That's complete horseshit, I've heard of white collar crimes getting more time than that. Looks like the plan worked real well, from the sounds of it he only got to murder two more girls. Hooray justice system.

He didn't. He got 6 years for "committing lewd and lascivious acts on 13-year-old," whom he did not murder.

I don't know what that "lewd and lascivious act" was.
 

Narmer

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He didn't. He got 6 years for "committing lewd and lascivious acts on 13-year-old," whom he did not murder.

I don't know what that "lewd and lascivious act" was.

Seems like the prosecution office is as much of a problem. Making deals like these are sickening.
 

GrantMeThePower

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This case is unreal and hopefully brings about changes. This dude had already been convicted of sexual assault of a minor, and then released and went on to rape and kill two more women, and attempted rape of one more (she got away.).

It costs a lot to keep people in jail. It costs so much more to let the wrong ones out.
 

Kadarin

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EVERYONE deserves due process of law. If the evidence proves beyond a reasonable doubt that he was the one who did these crimes, then the death penalty should be applied appropriately.
 

JulesMaximus

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I'm 46 and I still don't get why these guys aren't in prison for life or executed. F-n liberal judges give them light sentences and let them out early. My guess is that they would not be so lenient if it were their child or grandchild. In favor of "Mob Rules" in cases like this.

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WTF. Even the prosecutors need a clue?

Oh here we go, blame the liberals. Give me a fucking break.
 

JulesMaximus

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He didn't. He got 6 years for "committing lewd and lascivious acts on 13-year-old," whom he did not murder.

I don't know what that "lewd and lascivious act" was.

Which is why child predators typically kill after the first time they get caught and released. Because if you kill your victim you leave no witnesses.
 

highland145

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Oh here we go, blame the liberals. Give me a fucking break.

You're right. It may be my skewed perception that makes me biased. I have been watching more CNN lately to try and correct that. I blame everyone that has a hand in letting peeps like this out. And I can't imagine the pain the family is and will go through. Damn shame.
 
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