That's it in a nutshell. The kid looked very suspect jumping back in his truck like that but until you see a gun, that is just the possibility of a threat.
This has nothing to do with LEO's using black men as target practice (I've heard people use the term, sigh....)
It's all about the over-reaction and over-emphasis on furtive movements. He made a typical furtive movement, and the officer immediately recognized it (reaching in the car, looks towards beneath the seat)
The officer drew his weapon, backed off and went for cover. When the man turned around, he IMMEDIATELY shot towards him. Something in his brain said "This guy has a gun, and I need to shoot him before I get shot"
Problem was, he didn't have a gun nor was he reaching for one.
He didn't identify a threat, he identified the possibility of a threat. You can't shoot someone because you expect a lethal threat.
All these cops have seen videos where their fellow brothers are gunned down on what most would say is a unknown risk traffic stop. People get out of their cars, and start shooting them. This is ingrained in their minds.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ752HBcmoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrMWoikwMgU
Traffic stops are a jack in the box, you never know if the surprise is nothing or if the surprise is a gun
15 posts? How do you know so much about Jowo already?
WWYBYWB?
If it were me, I would have not been shot. Know why? I always stay seated with hands on the wheel. I roll down the windows and take off my sun glasses, all before the cop even gets to my car. I make sure they can see me and my eyes clearly. Its called courtesy and people don't have it these days. Cops are disrespected, attacked, verbally abused and generally treated poorly. If they pull me over they will have had at least one decent traffic stop that day. If I get a ticket, I accept it, tell him thank you and to have a good day. God damn why people can't just do that I'll never understand.
The video linked in the OP, which is linked from CNN, abbreviates the "traffic stop" video too much.
The cop didn't pull over Jones. Jones looked to have been already stopped in front of the gas station/store when the cop saw no seat belt in use? Of course, this begs the question.....have you ever pulled up to a store, unbuckled because you're stopped, and then opened the door or such as that? That's what it looks like was happening in the "longer" video on Youtube.
The cop's behind the store, stopped. A white extended cab pickup with lumber in the bed, is pulling away (?) or driving by (?) from the cop. After maybe 10-15 sec. after the white pickup pulls out of sight around the corner of the store, the cop pulls out and follows where the aforementioned white pickup went.
The cop then stops where the parking lot for the gas station/store dumps into the street, waits a few seconds, then backs up and swings back into the store's parking lot. If you look closely, you'll see the pickup that was initially in front of the cop car at the beginning of the video in the street stopped at what I presume is an intersection/traffic light.
He then pulls up to the white 4-door SUV and Jones is already exiting the vehicle, even before the cop stops his cruiser, as if Jones is heading into the store.
Then the crime happens.
Ought to take a look.....makes the situation worse than it really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBUUO_VFYMs
You're right that does make it worse, no wonder he's been suspended and charged with aggravated assault & battery. I don't see how he, his lawyer, or the police union can justify his use of deadly force in this instance.
Maybe you meant the same but he was fired.
I would have shot the guy as well. He dove back into the car quickly. I'd assume he was going for a gun for sure.
Truth be told, the man should never have exited his vehicle when pulled over.
why no riots or week long demonstrations?
That's it in a nutshell. The kid looked very suspect jumping back in his truck like that but until you see a gun, that is just the possibility of a threat.
You didn't even watch the clip. There was no "jump" into his truck. Thank god for dash cam because people like you are willing to lie so cops can shoot unarmed black men.
Kid? This guy was 35 years old. Obviously you have no respect to the victim. Going to call him "boy" next??
If it were me, I would have not been shot. Know why? I always stay seated with hands on the wheel. I roll down the windows and take off my sun glasses, all before the cop even gets to my car. I make sure they can see me and my eyes clearly. Its called courtesy and people don't have it these days. Cops are disrespected, attacked, verbally abused and generally treated poorly. If they pull me over they will have had at least one decent traffic stop that day. If I get a ticket, I accept it, tell him thank you and to have a good day. God damn why people can't just do that I'll never understand.
You must get pulled over a lot.
In my sportbike and sports car days I got pulled over once a month. You learn on your very first stop not to jump out of the vehicle like this fool did. It doesn't take getting pulled over a lot to figure this out.
It's looking more and more like he just wanted a payday. Probably in a bunch of debt and figured suicide by cop would at least pay for his family.
What an amazingly stupid thing to say.
I simply don't understand how any adult would dive into their vehicle like he did. I still think the cop screwed up, but it looks like he was provoked.
The cop even didn't technically pull him over, I never saw any lights or any sign from the cop that this person was getting pulled over. He was out of his car because he was going about his business, likely going inside the convenience store. Then all of a sudden a cop comes on over the loud speaker ordering him to show his drivers license. I'm sure he surprised and was just trying to comply with this cop as quickly as possible. Unlike you the last time I've been pulled over was almost 20 years ago so I don't know that I'd react much differently than this person and in no way would I be looking to get shot so I can have "a pay day".
I simply don't understand how any adult would dive into their vehicle like he did. I still think the cop screwed up, but it looks like he was provoked.
I have been surprised by LEOs and it didn't cause me to dive into my car like that.
Again... Not saying the cop is 100% in the right here, but the guy that got capped provoked the situation.