So you must have taken a poll?
This is going to be like Iraq all over again. Everyone is happy and throwing flowers and chocolates at us.
Most of Libya seems rather happy about recent events, so with them on the one side and routan on the other side, I think we come out ahead. Can't please everyone, and in this case I doubt we even want to try to.
Routan does not understand that.
You haven't posted articles backing up your claims. You've posted articles making the same speculative claims.
Good job falling back on the conservative "you called me a racist" card.
No, because he believes in a culture that does not understand nor value actual freedom of thought or speech.
And he claims in this very thread to be an American.
you did call me a racist without using the word or you wouldn't have brought up "brown people". also good on calling me a conservative again, way to prove you're more of a tool.
The articles I've posted have quotes from people involved, you are the one denying they mean anything. Sarkozy backing Gaddaffi a couple years ago is fact. Gaddaffi even gave to his campaign. Of course Sarkozy denies it though, just like he probably denies that Gaddaffi was working with the West against Islamist groups, even though he's quoted as backing up Gaddaffi on those measures. Hell even on his human rights offenses the West had been backing Gaddaffi as "opening up" to them.
This shit is a joke Throckmorton, if you want to get involved in this debate educate yourself or shut the fuck up. When an Islamist tool such as routan has a good idea what's going on(someone I've belittled and attacked numerous times on these forums), you should realize just how out of touch with reality you are.
Your claims are complete non sequiturs. Following your logic, because China suppresses terrorists, we shouldn't support Taiwan.
Everybody's a pundit these days...
Edit: I wasn't calling you a racist. My point was that in recent history we have had a record of helping (or "helping") brown people, at huge huge cost with nothing in return.
Citizenship or residency is not enough to make you culturally western, which you are not.
Not many people think that he moderation here is perfect, but your complaints are ridiculous and especially obnoxious considering in your first posts on this forum moderators were prostrating before you trying to make you feel safe. What will make you happy? People are allowed to say they don't like Islam. Do you want them to be punished for not liking Islam or criticizing Islam?
That is what I gathered from reading your previous posts. Most of your posts do not add anything really.
Just another person to ignore for bad attempts at trolling as when he has nothing to back up his theory he proceeds to just start cussing out people.
routan is a moron Islamist who doesn't realize the hypocritical stance he takes.
again i still find it weird i agree with him on this matter and so very few of you guys do. what he's saying is shit i've been saying for awhile nao.
Routan does not understand that.. he is extremely good at flashing the victim card at every opportunity.. just like everyone else who lives in denial. He does not even take the time to corroborate his so called facts.
Hey moron, protesters are civilians. You're the one making stupid claims, then getting mad when people point out that you have absolutely nothing to back up your idiotic claims. You are the prime example of the point Kadarin made earlier
Why dont you tell me what being "culturally western" mean? You make a claim that I hate the west because I dislike Muslim lands being messed with? If that is your assertion, then I agree. I do not believe that ANY land should be messed with. This is not exclusive of being part of the Western culture.
I dont know where moderators were prostrating before me. This forum is rife with Islamophobic tendencies, and you are another example of it. This is not just my assertion, but as I pointed out, others also feel the same way.
Stop acting like because someone else agrees with you then you must be right. That's not a real argument it's actually fallacious reasoning.
You've been playing victim from the start. Why don't you go re-read your thread "a Muslim perspective"? You start crying even before people respond to you and the mods go out of there way to say they don't hate you.
You are the one claiming that moderators have been prostrating before me and that there is no Islamophobia on the forum.
I show you evidence from OTHER non-Muslim members that Islamophobia does exist. EVen so, YOU have to be right, even though others disagree. And then you accuse me of fallacious reasoning? LOL
Why is it 99% of your posts are about crying that you are a victim? Why don't you actually post about politics and news instead of complaining constantly?
And why don't you explain what exactly would make you happy here. It sounds like you want people to not complain about Islam. Am I right? Is that what would make you happy?
Kadarin had an outright Islamohphobic post.
He doesn't like Islam apparently. You want him to be banned for that? Is that what will make you happy?
you're mad weird. you are agreeing with me and still consider my stance as hypocritical?
How is being eaten by one wolf better than being eaten by another wolf?
The wolf in sheep's clothing will be given legitimacy when it deserves none.
not your stance on this subject, on various subjects. believe me routan i'm a weird individual so who knows. i do happen to agree with you on this matter though. it's rather obvious what went down with Libya to anyone who knows anything about Libya.
I really dont care what he likes or not likes. He can dislike women for all I care. As long as he keeps his feeling to himself, and not make Islamophobic statements, I will be happy.