We need to get this problem of dehydration under control.
Let us not forget that officers were hurt in this too. Two were treated for dehydration (beating a man will take a lot out of you) and one was kicked by the horse.
I guess the water problem is limiting officers ability to beat people. We need to get this problem of dehydration under control.
Hell with body cams, we need to get these gentlemen Camelbaks so they don't lose steam while raging on complicit, unarmed civilians.
You are such a moron. Camels make no sense.
Cops need jet packs! :awe:
I'm impressed that the guy stole a horse.
He means one of these:
I saw just dump those deputies in the desert. Let them learn what real dehydration is....
Despite a rocky start (a testosterone-OD'd LEO who thought a college girl out late at night should bend to his will in a euphemistic way), I generally have had a great deal of respect for LEOs. Until recently. Maybe it'a few bad apples, or maybe it's more than a few. I don't know. What I do know is that the incidents that have made the news in the past few years have me very concerned about the caliber, or lack thereof, of the LEOs that I'm supposed to trust to protect us all.
The duty to provide public services is owed to the public at large, and, absent a special relationship between the police and an individual, no specific legal duty exists.
Part of it is the availability heuristic. We need to remember that the odds of any of us ever being beaten or seriously abused by a cop during our lifetime are low. However, there are obviously so many events like this, pretty well uniformly not reported by other cops who saw it or partook in it, that we can quite safely conclude there is a pandemic of police abuse of authority in the united states.Despite a rocky start (a testosterone-OD'd LEO who thought a college girl out late at night should bend to his will in a euphemistic way), I generally have had a great deal of respect for LEOs. Until recently. Maybe it'a few bad apples, or maybe it's more than a few. I don't know. What I do know is that the incidents that have made the news in the past few years have me very concerned about the caliber, or lack thereof, of the LEOs that I'm supposed to trust to protect us all.
LEOs have no duty to protect people. There's an entire supreme court ruling on this (from Colorado.)
Edit:
Warren v. District of Columbia
So if they decide beating you to death will benefit the public as a whole...
And you can explain how beating to death an alleged perp will benefit the public as a whole?
Part of it is the availability heuristic. We need to remember that the odds of any of us ever being beaten or seriously abused by a cop during our lifetime are low. However, there are obviously so many events like this, pretty well uniformly not reported by other cops who saw it or partook in it, that we can quite safely conclude there is a pandemic of police abuse of authority in the united states.
All of these things make the news because of videographic evidence. That is quite new, with rare exceptions like Rodney King. It would be foolhardy to pretend that cops were not acting like this in the past and all throughout history.
I'm be mostly sarcastic, so I don't think I'll try (other than to suggest beating Hitler to a bloody pulp could fit the bill?) My point is more simply the police have no duty or obligation to help you out when you dial 911.
Why this has not been changed I do not understand. Why we don't have laws that basically make abuse of police power a class a or b felony is beyond me. These people have been given extreme power, and so the punishments for abusing and misusing that power should be similarly extreme. Police oversight (internal affairs) should be handled by randomly selected civilians much like we do jury selection. The police should not be policing themselves.
And that's what scares me. Has this been happening all along, and we just didn't know about it in the pre-cell phone era? And have LEO officers gotten away with it for so long that it's now an inherent part of their culture? If so, that's truly frightening.
Yes and no. Yes it's been going on but not like it's been lately. Yes cell phone cameras make it easier to prove.
But the main thing that has changed is police training. Cops now see civilians as the enemy in a war zone.
On the one hand, I can understand that. Particularly if the training is coming from the inherent culture I mentioned. On the other hand, how constructive is it possible for that mindset to be?
It's not constructive or healthy.
No, it's not. So how does it get fixed? I mean, there are a lot of intelligent people who are now tuning in to this issue. What do they do?
No, it's not. So how does it get fixed? I mean, there are a lot of intelligent people who are now tuning in to this issue. What do they do?
And that's what scares me. Has this been happening all along, and we just didn't know about it in the pre-cell phone era? And have LEO officers gotten away with it for so long that it's now an inherent part of their culture? If so, that's truly frightening.