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Why do you guys have to take it to such ridiculous extremes to make your point? No rational person wants to arm every idiot.

One state's residents would be required to purchase an AR-15 under proposed law

WPMT|290 days ago
House Bill 11-08 filed in February by southeast Missouri Representative Andrew McDaniel would require all adults in Missouri between the ages of 18 and 35 to purchase an AR-15 style rifle. Tax credits would be provided to defray the cost of the weapon.
 

Paladin3

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One state's residents would be required to purchase an AR-15 under proposed law

WPMT|290 days ago
House Bill 11-08 filed in February by southeast Missouri Representative Andrew McDaniel would require all adults in Missouri between the ages of 18 and 35 to purchase an AR-15 style rifle. Tax credits would be provided to defray the cost of the weapon.
"The bill does not currently have any scheduled hearings.

McDaniel said he introduced the bill to "make a point" about legal mandates and to show "the absurdity of the opposite side" and the "requirements and barriers for law-abiding citizens," according to the Associated Press.

Days after introducing the bill, McDaniel also proposed a similar measure requiring legally-eligible residents to purchase a tax-subsidized handgun, according to the Riverfront Times."


McDaniel is idiotically wasting taxpayer money and time to make a point. I'm not sure exactly what the point is, but I stand by my statement: Nobody rational is suggesting we arm every citizen.
 

Paladin3

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Thank Goodness, as law enforcement officers are notoriously inaccurate (hit rates are largely worse than a coin flip in the limited data we have) - so somewhat of an ironic point to make.

As for the remainder of your "points," been covered ad nauseum.
Deflection 101. You're getting good at this.
 

JSt0rm

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McDaniel is idiotically wasting taxpayer money and time to make a point. I'm not sure exactly what the point is, but I stand by my statement: Nobody rational is suggesting we arm every citizen.

we know. Brown people with guns make white people poo poo the pants.
 

FerrelGeek

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Then you're clearly not paying attention to many on the left.

And my analogy isn't silly at all

Both are constitutional rights: 1 defined explicitly in the second amendment and the other a right defined by SCOTUS. When it comes to any state law that tries to restrict abortion, its proponents push back fearing the possibility that it will be re-banned.

Heck, I proposed a couple of years back that I thought that it'd be prudent to tighten regulations on clinics that perform abortions to establish better standards of cleanliness and procedural practices that would make them fall in line with hospitals. Isn't that reasonable? Don't you want women who choose to terminate their pregnancy at the point where an invasive procedure is necessary to be safe? That the person performing the procedure is fully qualified? That the clinic is using properly sterilized implements? Guess what? I got shot down. My desire for women to be properly cared for fell on deaf ears. My proposal was dismissed as an attempt to put burdensome restrictions on the clinics.

It isn't. And comparing guns to abortion is silly.
 

TheVrolok

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Then you're clearly not paying attention to many on the left.

And my analogy isn't silly at all

Both are constitutional rights: 1 defined explicitly in the second amendment and the other a right defined by SCOTUS. When it comes to any state law that tries to restrict abortion, its proponents push back fearing the possibility that it will be re-banned.

Heck, I proposed a couple of years back that I thought that it'd be prudent to tighten regulations on clinics that perform abortions to establish better standards of cleanliness and procedural practices that would make them fall in line with hospitals. Isn't that reasonable? Don't you want women who choose to terminate their pregnancy at the point where an invasive procedure is necessary to be safe? That the person performing the procedure is fully qualified? That the clinic is using properly sterilized implements? Guess what? I got shot down. My desire for women to be properly cared for fell on deaf ears. My proposal was dismissed as an attempt to put burdensome restrictions on the clinics.
So much wrong here I don't even.
 

sandorski

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Then you're clearly not paying attention to many on the left.

And my analogy isn't silly at all

Both are constitutional rights: 1 defined explicitly in the second amendment and the other a right defined by SCOTUS. When it comes to any state law that tries to restrict abortion, its proponents push back fearing the possibility that it will be re-banned.

Heck, I proposed a couple of years back that I thought that it'd be prudent to tighten regulations on clinics that perform abortions to establish better standards of cleanliness and procedural practices that would make them fall in line with hospitals. Isn't that reasonable? Don't you want women who choose to terminate their pregnancy at the point where an invasive procedure is necessary to be safe? That the person performing the procedure is fully qualified? That the clinic is using properly sterilized implements? Guess what? I got shot down. My desire for women to be properly cared for fell on deaf ears. My proposal was dismissed as an attempt to put burdensome restrictions on the clinics.

There were no issues with the Standards of Cleanliness or Procedural Practices. You got shot down because you were using a Talking Point intended to put a Burden on anyone performing this particular procedure.
 

FerrelGeek

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There were no issues with the Standards of Cleanliness or Procedural Practices. You got shot down because you were using a Talking Point intended to put a Burden on anyone performing this particular procedure.


Sorry, bro. Not true. I was told that abortion clinics didn't need the same standards and that forcing said standards would cause an unnecessary burden on the clinics. Nice try, though.
 

FerrelGeek

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So much wrong here I don't even.

Translation. Libs are never wrong. I'm speaking of people's reactions whenever rights are potentially restricted. Let's try speech, religion, or the press. Take your pic. Maybe the thought of restricting those rights isn't as threatening to you. This is why I seldom bother to engage people in here.

Whatever.
 

TheVrolok

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Translation. Libs are never wrong. I'm speaking of people's reactions whenever rights are potentially restricted. Let's try speech, religion, or the press. Take your pic. Maybe the thought of restricting those rights isn't as threatening to you. This is why I seldom bother to engage people in here.

Whatever.
You're literally reciting talking points line by line. The abortion clinic canard about "women's safety?" How trite.
 

sandorski

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Sorry, bro. Not true. I was told that abortion clinics didn't need the same standards and that forcing said standards would cause an unnecessary burden on the clinics. Nice try, though.

...ok, whateva, keep on keepin on with the talking points.
 

Paladin3

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I am just here to amplify your dog whistle.
No, you are calling me a racist because I said I don't support the absurd idea of arming every person with a gun at age 18. It's not the first time you've abandoned logic if it means you get the chance to call someone a racist.

And if I call you a lying piece of shit playing the race card then I'm the bad guy.
 

JSt0rm

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No, you are calling me a racist because I said I don't support the absurd idea of arming every person with a gun at age 18. It's not the first time you've abandoned logic if it means you get the chance to call someone a racist.

And if I call you a lying piece of shit playing the race card then I'm the bad guy.

you are the bad guy because you are willing to sacrifice childrens lives so you can go play touch butt in the forest pretending you are a soldier.
 

blackangst1

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Why are AR15's in question when theyrent responsible for the majority of gun deaths? Good headlines? No. Because the anti-gun people dont have the balls to go after handguns. Fucking politics.
 

soundforbjt

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Why are AR15's in question when theyrent responsible for the majority of gun deaths? Good headlines? No. Because the anti-gun people dont have the balls to go after handguns. Fucking politics.
But they are real popular lately with the mass shooter crowd for the last couple of years.
 

soundforbjt

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OK? whats the ratio of deaths by AR15's vs handguns?

Yeah. Doesnt come close. This is nothing but outrage via emotions and not facts.
I'm sure the people in the Vegas shooting would've preferred the shooter would've tried that with handguns vs semi-auto rifles.
 

blackangst1

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I'm sure the people in the Vegas shooting would've preferred the shooter would've tried that with handguns vs semi-auto rifles.

/roll eyes

If you cared at all about gun killings you would support legislation banning what kills the most people: handguns. But you dont, nor does the senators. It s all a facade youve bought in to. But fuckin rage on man.
 

TheVrolok

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/roll eyes

If you cared at all about gun killings you would support legislation banning what kills the most people: handguns. But you dont, nor does the senators. It s all a facade youve bought in to. But fuckin rage on man.
There's literally an entire section of this thread just about restriction of handguns. Don't be absurd (I know, high bar).
 
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