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Baked

Lifer
Dec 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: lupi
WTF bids $40 on what is probably junk.

OP never said what kinda chip it was. It's probably a good chip, at least C2D.
 

Paladin3

Diamond Member
Mar 5, 2004
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Refund the guy his money and remember to clearly label your trash as such the next time you try to sell it.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: envy me

I did not notice any missing pins when I had shipped it out, however I was not looking for any missing pins, all I stated is that many of the pins were bent, which they were.

So now the buyer wants a refund.

I'm in a bit of a dilema because I did not mis-represent my auction, I did not say 100% working when I wasn't sure, I said untested, and stated the condition of it.

The only thing is the missing pins fiasco... I did not see any missing pins on the processor before shipping it (however I could have missed that), and for all I know he could have removed them.

Since you don't know one way or the other about the missing pins, you may unintentionally have misrepresented the item. As others have said, missing pins is a big difference from bent pins.

Since you aren't sure, a refund is the ethical choice.

But see the thing is, it might just be worthless guilt that's clouding his judgment.

The way I see it, I bet the OP did in fact check whether pins were missing or not, done in the process of looking at the pins in general (and he noted some pins were bent).
But now that the buyer states pins are missing, the OP is now questioning the thoroughness of his inspection.

Personally, I'd go with don't refund the buyer. He could be scamming, or could even just be an idiot and think there are missing pins on the keyed-corner of the CPU, when in fact those pins aren't missing.

But there are two ways to look at the description:
By stating there are bent pins, I find it reasonable to assume that means the pins were inspected and that no missing pins were discovered.
But, this leaves two little holes: the ability for either the buyer or seller to scam the other. By not stating no missing pins, a middle-man might not be able to easily decide as to whether it was shipped with missing pins. And hell, even stating "no missing pins", and then the buyer stating that there were missing pins, creates an issue. Did the seller lie? Is the buyer lying, or just an idiot?

It's sticky no matter how it was described. Personally I'd take it to ebay, and require a clear photo of the CPU.

Because in my opinion, stating the CPU was sold as-is with missing pins, and no idea whether it works or not, makes it perfectly legit if it meets that description. And thus, if it doesn't end up working, the buyer is simply an idiot.
Hell, even if the item does work the buyer is still an idiot, just a lucky one. Seriously, who buys untested junk on ebay? Especially for $40. Maybe it was some super expensive chip and they have a lot of money to waste and $40 is pocket change to them. Whatever, still retarded to complain when it ends up being trash.
 

Paladin3

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Mar 5, 2004
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It's not worth the $40 to have some guy out there in eBay land thinking you scammed him, especially when he has the power of feedback. If the OP had "***UNTESTED***/***ASIS***/***BROKEN*** in the auction title then I might say no refund, but he obviously didn't or he would have posted the auction for everyone to see.

I'm guessing he buried "untested" down deep in the description so he could technically be in the right if someone missed it and overbid on his junk.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Farang
should've mentioned the missing pins

It's possible he broke the pins off trying to bend them back and now wants to blame the seller that it was defective.

I can see both sides of this debate. But If this were a court case, I believe a judge would side with the seller since it was stated the processor was sold as is. Let him file a complaint and allow ebay to mediate this matter.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: pontifex
pics of said CPU?

hell im waiting for a link to the auction. most times when people post shit like this the auction is a scam.
 

abaez

Diamond Member
Jan 28, 2000
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It's from Canada so the shipping doesn't seem to be too unreasonable. But still why a stock photo?
 

Farang

Lifer
Jul 7, 2003
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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Farang
should've mentioned the missing pins

It's possible he broke the pins off trying to bend them back and now wants to blame the seller that it was defective.

I can see both sides of this debate. But If this were a court case, I believe a judge would side with the seller since it was stated the processor was sold as is. Let him file a complaint and allow ebay to mediate this matter.

It is possible. But a the seller it is your responsibility to know the condition of your item and document it with pics, so you can't just claim ignorance (and then blame the buyer) when someone finds out your item is broken. Also, missing pins you have to mention. You can't just sell broken crap and say "as-is" to absolve yourself, that is not ethical.
 

us3rnotfound

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Jun 7, 2003
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The way you made that auction makes it sound like the chip has a fighting chance to work fine. I think there were other issues with this trashed chip, and that's why you stuck with the stock photo.
 
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