Another ebay asshole! (long story)

[limsandy]

Oooo, didnt think I was coming back huh?

To those people who called me an asshole/loser, go fvck yourself because you're the pathetic losers.

I didn't know that charging paypal fees were against the rules. If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees? I've seen a set of 6 colored pens sell for $5 and $15 shipping and handling. And I'm talking about regular pens, not giant sized.

So, you know I was against the rules but if you have READ my item description, you'd know that I'd charge you paypal fees. If you didn't want that to happen, just don't fvcking bid on my item. As simple as that. There are hundred of other sellers selling the V300.

Let me come back to that: reading. I've told the buyer to send me paypal fees, but he just don't/can't read simple words like that. He preferred to just ignore my command and pretend like I'd ship the phone without him paying paypal fees. So he needs the phone ASAP? Well, am I reasonable to say that I need my money ASAP?

This buyer is clearly being dishonest when he lied to paypal that I tried to charge him $25 shipping and handling. I'm not selling my phone to a fvcker and I'm just going to refund his money. You think you'd get my phone huh? You think I'd kiss your ass and pretend nothing happen? Sorry, I'd rather pay another listing fees and sell my phone to someone else.


~limsandy

 

[TechnoKid]

So now that you know its against the rules to charge paypal fees, why do you still insist that he pays them? All he'd have to do is report you for trying to make him pay for paypal fees...

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: limsandy

If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees?

~limsandy

It's kind of like you going to the store to buy something. When you use your credit card, the merchant could ask for 3% more to cover their fees. However, they can't and they have to build the fees into the cost of the item instead.

Additionally, most of the forums that I post on do not allow sellers to ask for PayPal fees. If they want to recover these fees, they have to build them into the sales price.

However, I find it funny that you still think you've done nothing wrong - and, you'd go as far as re-listing the product, just to sell it to someone else. Silly. Just plain silly. :roll:

 

[shilala]

Thanks to everybody for the help with the "pwned" thing.
At the risk of being labeled a dickwad, I'm gonna throw out some info.
I co-own an auction at http://www.eggbid.com, and I handle the customer service. I'm the guy who handles the noobtards who seem to think that they're outside the rules because they're A.) Too stupid to read, B.)Too lazy to be bothered to read, C.) Too intelligent to be bothered to read, or D.) On aol (version 8.0 obviously takes advantage of the divine providence optimizer that renders subscribers unfettered by written word).
On Paypal surcharges...
It's against ebay policy. It violates Paypal's TOS. It even violates the User Agreement at our auction under "lawful use", because it's flat-ass illegal to surcharge any particular payment method.
It IS perfectly legal and acceptable to offer a discount to a buyer for using a particular payment method. "Please enjoy a 3% discount for payment by cash, money order or check" (the discount for cash on gas was an excellent example).
It's a stupid and pointless law built for stupid and pointless people who feel that unfair business is the only way to do business.
If you're a decent person who wishes to treat people decently, what's wrong with some good old fashioned honesty? What kind of asshole sells a $100 item for $45.00 and charges $100.00 for shipping and handling? Answer:A good percentage of folks at ebay.
It's wrong, it's deceptive, and it takes advantage of good, honest hard-working folks who just crawled out of the woods thinking that people are basically good and not lining up to pound their sphincters.
I genuinely feel sorry for folks who may not be so blessed in the melon that they can read between the lines and avoid being screwed over. In a perfect world, they shouldn't have to.
Unfortunately, some people suck.

 

[Yossarian]

ROUND 2, HERE WE GO!!!

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: limsandy

Oooo, didnt think I was coming back huh?

To those people who called me an asshole/loser, go fvck yourself because you're the pathetic losers.

I didn't know that charging paypal fees were against the rules. If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees? I've seen a set of 6 colored pens sell for $5 and $15 shipping and handling. And I'm talking about regular pens, not giant sized.

So, you know I was against the rules but if you have READ my item description, you'd know that I'd charge you paypal fees. If you didn't want that to happen, just don't fvcking bid on my item. As simple as that. There are hundred of other sellers selling the V300.

Let me come back to that: reading. I've told the buyer to send me paypal fees, but he just don't/can't read simple words like that. He preferred to just ignore my command and pretend like I'd ship the phone without him paying paypal fees. So he needs the phone ASAP? Well, am I reasonable to say that I need my money ASAP?

This buyer is clearly being dishonest when he lied to paypal that I tried to charge him $25 shipping and handling. I'm not selling my phone to a fvcker and I'm just going to refund his money. You think you'd get my phone huh? You think I'd kiss your ass and pretend nothing happen? Sorry, I'd rather pay another listing fees and sell my phone to someone else.


~limsandy

It doesen't matter. You cannot ask the buyer to pay the PayPal fees. Period. He doesen't have to pay them, and you need to ship him his phone.

I hope you enjoy your negative, and if anybody has a heads up on who this person is on eBay, let us all know so we can add them to our disallowed bidders lists.

 

[kranky]

Originally posted by: shilala
What kind of asshole sells a $100 item for $45.00 and charges $100.00 for shipping and handling? Answer:A good percentage of folks at ebay.
It's wrong, it's deceptive, and it takes advantage of good, honest hard-working folks who just crawled out of the woods thinking that people are basically good and not lining up to pound their sphincters.
I genuinely feel sorry for folks who may not be so blessed in the melon that they can read between the lines and avoid being screwed over. In a perfect world, they shouldn't have to.
Unfortunately, some people suck.

Just a heads-up, there are some people here who laugh when someone buys "Xbox *original box* with receipt" on ebay and all they get is an empty box. They were supposed to detect that nowhere in the auction did it actually say an Xbox unit would be included.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: limsandy

Oooo, didnt think I was coming back huh?

To those people who called me an asshole/loser, go fvck yourself because you're the pathetic losers.

I didn't know that charging paypal fees were against the rules. If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees? I've seen a set of 6 colored pens sell for $5 and $15 shipping and handling. And I'm talking about regular pens, not giant sized.

So, you know I was against the rules but if you have READ my item description, you'd know that I'd charge you paypal fees. If you didn't want that to happen, just don't fvcking bid on my item. As simple as that. There are hundred of other sellers selling the V300.

Let me come back to that: reading. I've told the buyer to send me paypal fees, but he just don't/can't read simple words like that. He preferred to just ignore my command and pretend like I'd ship the phone without him paying paypal fees. So he needs the phone ASAP? Well, am I reasonable to say that I need my money ASAP?

This buyer is clearly being dishonest when he lied to paypal that I tried to charge him $25 shipping and handling. I'm not selling my phone to a fvcker and I'm just going to refund his money. You think you'd get my phone huh? You think I'd kiss your ass and pretend nothing happen? Sorry, I'd rather pay another listing fees and sell my phone to someone else.


~limsandy

It doesen't matter. You cannot ask the buyer to pay the PayPal fees. Period. He doesen't have to pay them, and you need to ship him his phone.

I hope you enjoy your negative, and if anybody has a heads up on who this person is on eBay, let us all know so we can add them to our disallowed bidders lists.

the idiot even posted a link to the auction.

FYI, I did mention that paypal fees will be charged to the winner of my auction.

"If you are paying with Paypal, please dont forget to add paypal fees to the total amount."

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...=1&item=5726345264

so there ya go!

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: limsandy
I didn't know that charging paypal fees were against the rules.

WELL IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOU BETTER ASK SOMEBODY!!!

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: limsandy
I didn't know that charging paypal fees were against the rules. If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees? I've seen a set of 6 colored pens sell for $5 and $15 shipping and handling. And I'm talking about regular pens, not giant sized.

Shipping & Handling != paypal fees. Sure, it may cover that, but nowhere does it say those are paypal fees. Regardless of whether you knew it was against the rules or not, you agreed to those rules when you signed up. Therefore, when he told you he wasn't paying because it was against the rules, you were DEFINATELY IN THE WRONG to be persistant in assuming that you could still collect them.

Him 1, You 0.

Originally posted by: limsandy
So, you know I was against the rules but if you have READ my item description, you'd know that I'd charge you paypal fees. If you didn't want that to happen, just don't fvcking bid on my item. As simple as that. There are hundred of other sellers selling the V300.

Again, merely stating something in your auction does not release you from the rules. The rules are not choice, they are not pick and choose, you follow them no matter what. Otherwise you end up in the situation you are in now.

Him 2, You 0.

Originally posted by: limsandy
Let me come back to that: reading. I've told the buyer to send me paypal fees, but he just don't/can't read simple words like that. He preferred to just ignore my command and pretend like I'd ship the phone without him paying paypal fees. So he needs the phone ASAP? Well, am I reasonable to say that I need my money ASAP?

Once again, he does NOT have to pay you paypal fees. Regardless of what you think, the phone has been paid for. You are not reasonable to say you need "your" money ASAP, because you have already been paid "your" money. Again, no matter what you think, he doesn't owe you these fees. You are the one that needs reading skills, because it's been said by about 50 different people here and you still insist you deserve some compensation for using a service that benefits you.

Him 3, You 0.

Originally posted by: limsandy
This buyer is clearly being dishonest when he lied to paypal that I tried to charge him $25 shipping and handling. I'm not selling my phone to a fvcker and I'm just going to refund his money. You think you'd get my phone huh? You think I'd kiss your ass and pretend nothing happen? Sorry, I'd rather pay another listing fees and sell my phone to someone else.

Two wrongs do not make a right. It's funny how when he tries to screw you it's an issue, but it was perfectly fine when you tried to do it to him. I'm sure he doesn't want a phone from a fvcker, too.
You deserve this for being so ignorant about the whole thing. You've been told time and time again that it's against the rules you agreed to follow but you are being beligerant about it and still think you are in the right.

Him 4, You 0.

You lose.

 

[eelw]

Originally posted by: limsandy

This buyer is clearly being dishonest when he lied to paypal that I tried to charge him $25 shipping and handling. I'm not selling my phone to a fvcker and I'm just going to refund his money. You think you'd get my phone huh? You think I'd kiss your ass and pretend nothing happen? Sorry, I'd rather pay another listing fees and sell my phone to someone else.


~limsandy

Well, if you don't plan on refunding the buyer his money, I highly doubt you will have an EBay account for much longer to re-list your phone again.

 

[Aimster]

You are obviously wrong. We aren't even talking about a lot of money. You made the mistake now pay for it. You cannot ask someone to do that if it is against the rules.

You posted this thread to see what you should do, right? The people have spoken. Send him the item that he won and don't charge him the paypal fee.

 

[dethman]

Originally posted by: zzzz
just because you mention it, doesnt make it right.

BAM.

 

[shilala]

[/quote]

Just a heads-up, there are some people here who laugh when someone buys "Xbox *original box* with receipt" on ebay and all they get is an empty box. They were supposed to detect that nowhere in the auction did it actually say an Xbox unit would be included.[/quote]

Yup kranky, it is kinda funny, really. Funny in a "you poor simple bastard" sorta way. I'd laugh at the guy holdin the brand new xbox, but I'd pony up and join him in the hunt for the wad that burned him. It's not very difficult flushing out scummers. It's super easy with most, some good ones take awhile to flush out. Those ones get bolder and bolder and bolder with every person they screw over. Usually they start makin a couple bucks and decide they can make more money when they go semi-legit. That's when ya scoop em up. Cops love to visit the homes of internet frauds. It's sexy, cutting edge cop material. Makes em salivate.
Legal or not, a good cop knows when someone got screwed. A visit to Joey's house usually uncovers the fact that he's operating at ebay on his Mom's credit card. Things just get skippier from there.
Ya still gotta laugh at some knucklehead with an empty box

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: limsandy


FYI, I did mention that paypal fees will be charged to the winner of my auction.

"If you are paying with Paypal, please dont forget to add paypal fees to the total amount."

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...=1&item=5726345264

It's against their terms of service to add fees. End of discussion. eBay owns PayPal, so I seriously doubt they'll be helpful.

 

[Farvacola]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: limsandy

Oooo, didnt think I was coming back huh?

To those people who called me an asshole/loser, go fvck yourself because you're the pathetic losers.

I didn't know that charging paypal fees were against the rules. If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees? I've seen a set of 6 colored pens sell for $5 and $15 shipping and handling. And I'm talking about regular pens, not giant sized.

So, you know I was against the rules but if you have READ my item description, you'd know that I'd charge you paypal fees. If you didn't want that to happen, just don't fvcking bid on my item. As simple as that. There are hundred of other sellers selling the V300.

Let me come back to that: reading. I've told the buyer to send me paypal fees, but he just don't/can't read simple words like that. He preferred to just ignore my command and pretend like I'd ship the phone without him paying paypal fees. So he needs the phone ASAP? Well, am I reasonable to say that I need my money ASAP?

This buyer is clearly being dishonest when he lied to paypal that I tried to charge him $25 shipping and handling. I'm not selling my phone to a fvcker and I'm just going to refund his money. You think you'd get my phone huh? You think I'd kiss your ass and pretend nothing happen? Sorry, I'd rather pay another listing fees and sell my phone to someone else.


~limsandy

It doesen't matter. You cannot ask the buyer to pay the PayPal fees. Period. He doesen't have to pay them, and you need to ship him his phone.

I hope you enjoy your negative, and if anybody has a heads up on who this person is on eBay, let us all know so we can add them to our disallowed bidders lists.

Amen , I could not agree more. This person really needs to become familiar with the rules of e-bay way before they decide to list anything again. It was YOUR fault in this case, and no justification will work. You are obligated to send his phone, and if you refund his money, you are doing an even greater disservice to E-bay and real sellers who know what their doing.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: limsandy

Oooo, didnt think I was coming back huh?

To those people who called me an asshole/loser, go fvck yourself because you're the pathetic losers.

I didn't know that charging paypal fees were against the rules. If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees? I've seen a set of 6 colored pens sell for $5 and $15 shipping and handling. And I'm talking about regular pens, not giant sized.

So, you know I was against the rules but if you have READ my item description, you'd know that I'd charge you paypal fees. If you didn't want that to happen, just don't fvcking bid on my item. As simple as that. There are hundred of other sellers selling the V300.

Let me come back to that: reading. I've told the buyer to send me paypal fees, but he just don't/can't read simple words like that. He preferred to just ignore my command and pretend like I'd ship the phone without him paying paypal fees. So he needs the phone ASAP? Well, am I reasonable to say that I need my money ASAP?

This buyer is clearly being dishonest when he lied to paypal that I tried to charge him $25 shipping and handling. I'm not selling my phone to a fvcker and I'm just going to refund his money. You think you'd get my phone huh? You think I'd kiss your ass and pretend nothing happen? Sorry, I'd rather pay another listing fees and sell my phone to someone else.


~limsandy

So not only were you too stupid to know in the first place, you're also too stupid to learn and too stupid to understand what an idiot you are even when presented with a mountain of evidence proving it. Congrats, you're the biggest loser on ATOT this evening. That's an impressive accomplishment, your mommy must be proud.

Feel free to keep this thread alive limsandy, I've got a feeling that there are plenty of people around here who would love to keep laughing at your complete cluelessness for all of eternity.

 

[Raspewtin]

Originally posted by: masterxfob
if you replied to me with a rude comment like that, i would also have filed a complaint refund request with paypal.

me too.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: limsandy


I didn't know that charging paypal fees were against the rules. If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees? I've seen a set of 6 colored pens sell for $5 and $15 shipping and handling. And I'm talking about regular pens, not giant sized.

~limsandy

How is charging shipping and handling ANYTHING like charging Paypal fees? That is an incredibly stupid argument. Surprise surprise.

 

[UsandThem]

Originally posted by: limsandy

Oooo, didnt think I was coming back huh?

To those people who called me an asshole/loser, go fvck yourself because you're the pathetic losers.

I didn't know that charging paypal fees were against the rules. If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees? I've seen a set of 6 colored pens sell for $5 and $15 shipping and handling. And I'm talking about regular pens, not giant sized.

So, you know I was against the rules but if you have READ my item description, you'd know that I'd charge you paypal fees. If you didn't want that to happen, just don't fvcking bid on my item. As simple as that. There are hundred of other sellers selling the V300.

Let me come back to that: reading. I've told the buyer to send me paypal fees, but he just don't/can't read simple words like that. He preferred to just ignore my command and pretend like I'd ship the phone without him paying paypal fees. So he needs the phone ASAP? Well, am I reasonable to say that I need my money ASAP?

This buyer is clearly being dishonest when he lied to paypal that I tried to charge him $25 shipping and handling. I'm not selling my phone to a fvcker and I'm just going to refund his money. You think you'd get my phone huh? You think I'd kiss your ass and pretend nothing happen? Sorry, I'd rather pay another listing fees and sell my phone to someone else.


~limsandy

Words can not fully describe how ignorant you are.

I also gave you a user rating of 1, as I could not vote any lower. I encourage everybody else to do the same because you and your arguments are pathetic.

However if you Paypal me $3.00 and an additional 3% to cover the fees that are associated with that payment, I will give you a 2:laugh:

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: UsandThem

Originally posted by: limsandy

He preferred to just ignore my command
~limsandy

Words can not fully describe how ignorant you are.

I also gave you a user rating of 1, as I could not vote any lower. I encourage everybody else to do the same because you and your arguments are pathetic.

However if you Paypal me $3.00 and an additional 3% to cover the fees that are associated with that payment, I will give you a 2:laugh:

I noticed that too. I'd hate to be her boyfriend. :Q

Unless you're into that sort of thing.. lol

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

Originally posted by: limsandy

If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees?

~limsandy

It's kind of like you going to the store to buy something. When you use your credit card, the merchant could ask for 3% more to cover their fees. However, they can't and they have to build the fees into the cost of the item instead.

Additionally, most of the forums that I post on do not allow sellers to ask for PayPal fees. If they want to recover these fees, they have to build them into the sales price.

However, I find it funny that you still think you've done nothing wrong - and, you'd go as far as re-listing the product, just to sell it to someone else. Silly. Just plain silly. :roll:

If you go to a fast food restaurant, and you want to use your credit card, they'll charge you 75 cents. So that's not illegal now?

 

[UncleWai]

Jesus fvcking christ. You are wrong and you are still going to make a fuzz about this $6?
Learn your lesson on this auction, take the $6 "loss".
Then next time, learn how to charge the paypal fee into your shipping and handling cost.
Always overcharge if you are so stingy about fees.

 

[HonkeyDonk]

Originally posted by: limsandy

Oooo, didnt think I was coming back huh?

To those people who called me an asshole/loser, go fvck yourself because you're the pathetic losers.

I didn't know that charging paypal fees were against the rules. If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees? I've seen a set of 6 colored pens sell for $5 and $15 shipping and handling. And I'm talking about regular pens, not giant sized.

So, you know I was against the rules but if you have READ my item description, you'd know that I'd charge you paypal fees. If you didn't want that to happen, just don't fvcking bid on my item. As simple as that. There are hundred of other sellers selling the V300.

Let me come back to that: reading. I've told the buyer to send me paypal fees, but he just don't/can't read simple words like that. He preferred to just ignore my command and pretend like I'd ship the phone without him paying paypal fees. So he needs the phone ASAP? Well, am I reasonable to say that I need my money ASAP?

This buyer is clearly being dishonest when he lied to paypal that I tried to charge him $25 shipping and handling. I'm not selling my phone to a fvcker and I'm just going to refund his money. You think you'd get my phone huh? You think I'd kiss your ass and pretend nothing happen? Sorry, I'd rather pay another listing fees and sell my phone to someone else.


~limsandy

please die!!!!!

Why are you so stupid? It's both hilarious and frustrating trying to reason w/ a stupid person such as limsandy.

Do you understand that just b/c you wrote something on ebay doesn't make it legal? Sure you put down "paypal fees are added, etc"...that doesn't mean the buyer has to pay for them.

2nd, you stated that you "didn't" know. Fair enough, some people don't know all the hidden rules, so maybe this was true in your case. HOWEVER, you continued to act and still act like a DICK to the people here. You continue to prove your stupidity by saying something along the lines of "well, if he didn't want to pay for them, he shouldn't have bid, WAH WAH WAH *TEAR* *SNIFF*"

3rd, YOU SUCK AT SELLING ON EBAY. PERIOD. What kind of unprofessinoal asswipe says "mmmmm....i MIGHT ship tomorrow." YOU DICK! GET OUT OF EBAY, YOU MAKE IT SUCK FOR THE REST OF US HONEST BIDDERS/SELLERS!

 

[HonkeyDonk]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

Originally posted by: limsandy

If buyers charge shipping and handling to sellers why can't I charge paypal fees?

~limsandy

It's kind of like you going to the store to buy something. When you use your credit card, the merchant could ask for 3% more to cover their fees. However, they can't and they have to build the fees into the cost of the item instead.

Additionally, most of the forums that I post on do not allow sellers to ask for PayPal fees. If they want to recover these fees, they have to build them into the sales price.

However, I find it funny that you still think you've done nothing wrong - and, you'd go as far as re-listing the product, just to sell it to someone else. Silly. Just plain silly. :roll:

If you go to a fast food restaurant, and you want to use your credit card, they'll charge you 75 cents. So that's not illegal now?

Fast food joints charge a .75 CC fee? Where, I've never been charged any fees using cc at fast food.