Another example of why I can't stand suburbia

[JulesMaximus]

WTF? You just go walking across someone else's private property? It's her property, you were trespassing, you should thank her for not shooting you in the face...that's what I would have done.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: Savij
So your neighbor saw some strange dude walking through her backyard and you're expecting her to welcome you with open arms? From her perspective, you claimed to be her neighbors but you're not the people that she's seen living in the houses around her. You don't walk through your neighbors yard let alone their back yard w/o at least introducing yourself first. She may or may not be the worst neighbor in the world, but your choice of introduction made you a random douche in her back yard instead of a friendly neighbor saying hello.

No reason to not be friendly. It's not like his dog was taking a piss on her lawn or anything, and he is her neighbor. Sure I'd be a little weirded out initially, but a few years ago we had a bunch of middle school kids cross our back yard (1/2 acre suburban lot) on a daily basis just because it was a shortcut on their way home. They never damaged anything, we didn't care.

If you start spouting off about "private property" IMO you're just a douche. If you don't want me to cut across your lawn, there are much friendlier ways to say it. Especially after you find out they're your neighbors.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Savij
So your neighbor saw some strange dude walking through her backyard and you're expecting her to welcome you with open arms? From her perspective, you claimed to be her neighbors but you're not the people that she's seen living in the houses around her. You don't walk through your neighbors yard let alone their back yard w/o at least introducing yourself first. She may or may not be the worst neighbor in the world, but your choice of introduction made you a random douche in her back yard instead of a friendly neighbor saying hello.

No reason to not be friendly. It's not like his dog was taking a piss on her lawn or anything, and he is her neighbor. Sure I'd be a little weirded out initially, but a few years ago we had a bunch of middle school kids cross our back yard (1/2 acre suburban lot) on a daily basis just because it was a shortcut on their way home. They never damaged anything, we didn't care.

If you start spouting off about "private property" IMO you're just a douche. If you don't want me to cut across your lawn, there are much friendlier ways to say it. Especially after you find out they're your neighbors.

No he's not. His parents are.

He's a total stranger...and a TRESPASSER!!! ZEE TRESPASSERS VIL ALL BE SHOT IN ZEE FACE!!!

 

[Descartes]

The only difference between suburbia and urban areas in this regard is the latter is more likely to be met with a gun rather than a frown. Seriously, I wouldn't cut through anyone's yard anywhere despite how silly it seems, especially not in the city.

The new owner doesn't know you and you don't know her. I wouldn't want anyone cutting through my property either.

 

[FelixDeCat]

If was new to the hood and didnt recogize you, I too would protest your casual trespassing. After your introduction I would have been more polite however in the interest of not stirring up bad blood.

Then I would go walking in your backyard.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Savij
So your neighbor saw some strange dude walking through her backyard and you're expecting her to welcome you with open arms? From her perspective, you claimed to be her neighbors but you're not the people that she's seen living in the houses around her. You don't walk through your neighbors yard let alone their back yard w/o at least introducing yourself first. She may or may not be the worst neighbor in the world, but your choice of introduction made you a random douche in her back yard instead of a friendly neighbor saying hello.

No reason to not be friendly. It's not like his dog was taking a piss on her lawn or anything, and he is her neighbor. Sure I'd be a little weirded out initially, but a few years ago we had a bunch of middle school kids cross our back yard (1/2 acre suburban lot) on a daily basis just because it was a shortcut on their way home. They never damaged anything, we didn't care.

If you start spouting off about "private property" IMO you're just a douche. If you don't want me to cut across your lawn, there are much friendlier ways to say it. Especially after you find out they're your neighbors.

No he's not. His parents are.

He's a perfect stranger...and a TRESPASSER!!! ZEE TRESPASSERS VIL ALL BE SHOT IN ZEE FACE!!!

And he's currently staying there. So he is, albeit temporarily, her neighbor. Sure he's a stranger to her, but unless you live in a ridiculously bad part of town I don't understand people who are innately suspicious of strangers. Especially a friendly guy, girl and dog. Not exactly a threatening image. She sounds like someone who pulls down her shades at night because she's afraid people are looking in the windows. :roll:

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: irishScott
No reason to not be friendly. It's not like his dog was taking a piss on her lawn or anything, and he is her neighbor. Sure I'd be a little weirded out initially, but a few years ago we had a bunch of middle school kids cross our back yard (1/2 acre suburban lot) on a daily basis just because it was a shortcut on their way home. They never damaged anything, we didn't care.

Most people are ok with kids doing that because that's what kids do. An adult should have better manners.

Originally posted by: irishScott

And he's currently staying there. So he is, albeit temporarily, her neighbor. Sure he's a stranger to her, but unless you live in a ridiculously bad part of town I don't understand people who are innately suspicious of strangers. Especially a friendly guy, girl and dog. Not exactly a threatening image. She sounds like someone who pulls down her shades at night because she's afraid people are looking in the windows. :roll:

It doesn't even have to be about suspicion of strangers. You meet and talk to someone before taking liberties with their property and possessions. If you're an adult and you walk through the yard of a guy you don't know, you're a douche. Sure, the woman may have been rude, but the OP very clearly caused the problem in the first place. Once again, if you are friendly with your neighbor it's probably fine to cut through their yard but it's pretty disrespectful to just assert your "right" to walk through her yard without asking.

The OP made a horrible first impression with the neighbor. Her first thought was "a stranger is walking into MY back yard". The OP is forever remembered by her as the presumptive douche bag.

 

[OCGuy]

Then GTFO

Go back to your hood and leave us alone.

 

[BKLounger]

anybody think maybe she is just one of those psycho lawn people who try to keep their lawn pristine and fears that continual foot traffic will leave a rut in her lawn?

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
I don't really think that is coming from being in suburbia. There are jerkoffs everywhere

fixed.

i work with the recreation department here part time, and some of the people i run into with various sporting leagues are total assholes, and some are the nicest people you could ever meet.

theres more of the former, than the latter, however. far too many people are rude, disrespectful and inconsiderate. i introduced myself to half a dozen coaches last week, *none* of them gave me their name after I had given mine, and only *one* was polite.

sometimes I get so sick of people that I dont even want to bother trying with them.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Savij
So your neighbor saw some strange dude walking through her backyard and you're expecting her to welcome you with open arms? From her perspective, you claimed to be her neighbors but you're not the people that she's seen living in the houses around her. You don't walk through your neighbors yard let alone their back yard w/o at least introducing yourself first. She may or may not be the worst neighbor in the world, but your choice of introduction made you a random douche in her back yard instead of a friendly neighbor saying hello.

i agree.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
I'm sure this is suburbia's fault. Everyone knows cunts don't live in urban areas.

LOL...my thought as well. It was suburbia before and somehow it was great, then this bitch moves in and all of a sudden suburbia is horrible now?

 

[Denithor]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
I dunno either.... back to the backyard then? Payback for neighborly grudges?

Take your doggie back to her backyard for payback...

:evil:

 

[se7en]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
she's paranoid you're a pedophile and are going to rape her dog.

I didnt even need to read the OP's post this says it all.

/end thread

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Savij
So your neighbor saw some strange dude walking through her backyard and you're expecting her to welcome you with open arms? From her perspective, you claimed to be her neighbors but you're not the people that she's seen living in the houses around her. You don't walk through your neighbors yard let alone their back yard w/o at least introducing yourself first. She may or may not be the worst neighbor in the world, but your choice of introduction made you a random douche in her back yard instead of a friendly neighbor saying hello.

i agree.

this

 

[KentState]

How is she suppose to know where your complete lack of respect for her property ends? It's not like your frisby accidently went into her back yard and you had to fetch it. This was a complete lack of respect.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
she's paranoid you're a pedophile and are going to rape her dog.

OMG dog pedophilia! But that bitch said she was 2, I swear!

KT

 

[spidey07]

I like backfire threads.

OP - If I see somebody I don't know on my property damn straight I'll tell them to stay off or at least confront them and ask what the hell they are doing. I don't know them nor do I know what they are up to.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: spidey07
I like backfire threads.

OP - If I see somebody I don't know on my property damn straight I'll tell them to stay off or at least confront them and ask what the hell they are doing. I don't know them nor do I know what they are up to.

Shotgun > Face

/thread

 

[lxskllr]

Who cares if someones on your property? As long as they aren't hiding in the bushes, what's the harm? If you're standing outside, politely say hi, if you're inside, ignore them :^/

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: irishScott
No reason to not be friendly. It's not like his dog was taking a piss on her lawn or anything, and he is her neighbor. Sure I'd be a little weirded out initially, but a few years ago we had a bunch of middle school kids cross our back yard (1/2 acre suburban lot) on a daily basis just because it was a shortcut on their way home. They never damaged anything, we didn't care.

Most people are ok with kids doing that because that's what kids do. An adult should have better manners.

Originally posted by: irishScott

And he's currently staying there. So he is, albeit temporarily, her neighbor. Sure he's a stranger to her, but unless you live in a ridiculously bad part of town I don't understand people who are innately suspicious of strangers. Especially a friendly guy, girl and dog. Not exactly a threatening image. She sounds like someone who pulls down her shades at night because she's afraid people are looking in the windows. :roll:

It doesn't even have to be about suspicion of strangers. You meet and talk to someone before taking liberties with their property and possessions. If you're an adult and you walk through the yard of a guy you don't know, you're a douche. Sure, the woman may have been rude, but the OP very clearly caused the problem in the first place. Once again, if you are friendly with your neighbor it's probably fine to cut through their yard but it's pretty disrespectful to just assert your "right" to walk through her yard without asking.

The OP made a horrible first impression with the neighbor. Her first thought was "a stranger is walking into MY back yard". The OP is forever remembered by her as the presumptive douche bag.

If it's a matter of significant practicality as described in the OP, I'd walk through the lawn. It's not like there's a fence to jump or anything. I don't see it as taking liberties. It's my lawn, not my fortress or sacred area. Might as well be my driveway or street. Likewise I wouldn't mind strangers walking through mine so long as they don't damage anything, especially if there's a valid reason for it. Hell I'd say hi and try to get to know them if they passed through on a regular basis.

But I guess I'm one of those rare mutants who still believes in being a community as opposed to being a collection of houses.

 

[rezinn]

You were walking your dog on someones property and are surprised they didn't take kindly to you? Get a clue. People like you are usually the ones who ruin their lawn and trample their flowers. I'm sure in a different situation they would have been happier to meet you.

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: irishScott

If it's a matter of significant practicality as described in the OP, I'd walk through the lawn. It's not like there's a fence to jump or anything. I don't see it as taking liberties. It's my lawn, not my fortress or sacred area. Might as well be my driveway or street. Likewise I wouldn't mind strangers walking through mine so long as they don't damage anything, especially if there's a valid reason for it. Hell I'd say hi and try to get to know them if they passed through on a regular basis.

But I guess I'm one of those rare mutants who still believes in being a community as opposed to being a collection of houses.

I'm saying that being a community means having enough manners to introduce yourself before you start walking through someone's property. Walking through yards doesn't make you a community. You might be ok with it but you can clearly see from these responses that a lot of people want to know you before you're accepted on their property. If you really care about your community you would know your neighbors well enough to know that some of them don't care for people walking through their yards and others will give the entire world an open invitation to camp out.

I would also like to point out that you're saying that you don't care what the neighbor thinks if it's more convenient for you. If you were really part of a community you would talk to your neighbors and know if they didn't like it or just did a lot of work on their lawn. Maybe they just had the lawn reseeded and are trying to keep traffic to a minimum for a few weeks or maybe they got tired of one track being used and asked their neighbors to refrain from cutting through to let the grass regrow or maybe they just had fertilizer put in. What if some one else has been letting their dog take a shit in the back yard and the OP was the first likely suspect that was seen in the yard? If the OP had talked to her first she might have known it wasn't his dog's droppings but instead she now thinks he's a jerk who leaves his dog shit in her yard.

 

[johnjohn320]

Someone above called this a "backfire thread," which amuses me given the 50/50 split we seem to be having here.

Anyway, I stand by my comment about this situation as a microcosm of things I dislike about suburbia. The attitude of some of these residents, including my neighbor and apparently like-minded individuals in this thread, is what I have a problem with. They hole themselves up in their cookie-cutter houses with an unbelievable smugness and sense of self-entitlement. They have no interest in smiling at someone new they meet, let alone getting to know their neighbors. They indulge in paranoia and condascension regarding other people-the lower income family in the grocery store, the gas station attendant who's from another country, the neighborhood with a heavy population of minorities. And, of course, anyone who walks within a stone's throw of their property whom they don't recognize. Their comfort zone extends from their driveway to their SUV to the local strip mall with a Starbucks, and anything that rattles this little world is to be scorned.

I realize the irony in trash-talking a whole segment of the population for their judgemental attitudes. It's really, honestly, unfair of me to do so. The majority of people who live in suburbs, as with anywhere, are decent, hard-working people who just want to live comfortably. I kind of went off on a rant based on my own experience, while acknowleding that one guy's life is insufficient data to make sweeping generalizations. Regardless, I was born and lived for some time in rural Texas, before living in several suburbs. I now live in a city. My experience with the suburbs, both in the time I lived there and in returning, has been what I've described here.

Someone pointed out that the "bible belt" (and other towns with similar attitudes), despite their unwavering devotion to Jesus, would probably be the least likely people to extend a friendly hand to Jesus if he showed up on their front porch one day. Who is this guy, unshaven, not well-dressed, not even a decent pair of shoes. No stuff, no posessions, and (gasp) he's Middle-Eastern! They wouldn't extend a warm greeting and offering of help. They'd look down their noses at him, scoff at him.

I digress. Just thoughts...

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Someone above called this a "backfire thread," which amuses me given the 50/50 split we seem to be having here.

Anyway, I stand by my comment about this situation as a microcosm of things I dislike about suburbia. The attitude of some of these residents, including my neighbor and apparently like-minded individuals in this thread, is what I have a problem with. They hole themselves up in their cookie-cutter houses with an unbelievable smugness and sense of self-entitlement. They have no interest in smiling at someone new they meet, let alone getting to know their neighbors. They indulge in paranoia and condascension regarding other people-the lower income family in the grocery store, the gas station attendant who's from another country, the neighborhood with a heavy population of minorities. And, of course, anyone who walks within a stone's throw of their property whom they don't recognize. Their comfort zone extends from their driveway to their SUV to the local strip mall with a Starbucks, and anything that rattles this little world is to be scorned.

I realize the irony in trash-talking a whole segment of the population for their judgemental attitudes. It's really, honestly, unfair of me to do so. The majority of people who live in suburbs, as with anywhere, are decent, hard-working people who just want to live comfortably. I kind of went off on a rant based on my own experience, while acknowleding that one guy's life is insufficient data to make sweeping generalizations. Regardless, I was born and lived for some time in rural Texas, before living in several suburbs. I now live in a city. My experience with the suburbs, both in the time I lived there and in returning, has been what I've described here.

Someone pointed out that the "bible belt" (and other towns with similar attitudes), despite their unwavering devotion to Jesus, would probably be the least likely people to extend a friendly hand to Jesus if he showed up on their front porch one day. Who is this guy, unshaven, not well-dressed, not even a decent pair of shoes. No stuff, no posessions, and (gasp) he's Middle-Eastern! They wouldn't extend a warm greeting and offering of help. They'd look down their noses at him, scoff at him.

I digress. Just thoughts...

That's great but you never addressed the fact that your douche move was the first douche move in the story. Sure, your parent's neighbor could have been nicer about it, but you forced your introduction to her to be a bad one.