Another Malaysian airplane down

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Genx87

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History check: Iranian passenger jet shot down with total loss of life by U.S. forces and the lack of consequences? Throw a stone parable, lest ye be without sin.

What is it about the Ukraine\Russian situation that brings out so many two wrong make a right argument?
 
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I just read that around the same time one of the separatists leaders tweeted(?) that a military cargo plane was downed.

The military commander of the rebels, a Russian named Igor Strelkov, had written on his social media page at 1337 GMT, half an hour before the last reported contact with MH-17, that his forces had brought down an Antonov An-26 in the same area. It is a turboprop transport plane of a type used by Ukraine's forces.
There was no comment on that from the Ukrainian military.
 

Pneumothorax

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History check: Iranian passenger jet shot down with total loss of life by U.S. forces and the lack of consequences? Throw a stone parable, lest ye be without sin.

We'll those Russian bastards are still one up on us considering they also shot down KAL 007 in the 80's.... And that was a fighter jet who ID the plane as a 747 and the Russian General still gave him the go ahead to take it down so it's not surprising if were to come out that the Kremlin authorized this crap.
 

Texashiker

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Fvck. If Obama doesn't do something more than his usual song and dance, righties are going to bitch and moan like we've never experienced before.

Election year, if obama does not do anything he and the rest of the democrats will be viewed as weak.

Terrorist can kill US citizens and obama and the rest of the democrats are going to sit on their ass. Democrats are going to look at obama and say, "ok, do something, anything, please do something?"

If obama does nothing or very little, his inaction is going to cost the democrats a lot of votes.

I am hoping obama plays golf this weekend and next week. Let the nation see what kind of president he really is.
 
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Slew Foot

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Election year, if obama does not do anything he and the rest of the democrats will be viewed as weak.

Terrorist can kill US citizens and obama and the rest of the democrats are going to sit on their ass.

Democrats are going to look at obama and say, "ok, do something, anything?"

No ones going to do shit
 

Zorba

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Fvck. If Obama doesn't do something more than his usual song and dance, righties are going to bitch and moan like we've never experienced before.

What should he do, send in the USAF to blow up all the SAMs, even though those SAMs could be very effective against our aircraft?
 
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phillyTIM

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There really is nothing for the US to do here.

People are so used to Bush/Cheney drilling in to be saviors of the World, we still have that stigma ingrained into peoples minds that the US can fix everything. We can't. Bush/Cheney helped prove that beyond any doubt.
 

Texashiker

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What should he do, send in the USAF to blow up all the SAMs, even though those SAMs could be very effective against our aircraft?

There really is nothing for the US to do here.

People are so used to Bush/Cheney drilling in to be saviors of the World, we still have that stigma ingrained into peoples minds that the US can fix everything. We can't. Bush/Cheney helped prove that beyond any doubt.

Send in the seals or special forces, arrest the accused, put them on trial, send them to prison for life.
 

Jaskalas

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Nations have gone to war over less.

Maybe the world needs to step up and deal with militants killing innocent civilians.

As seen in other P&N topics,

The world often take those militants, calls them civilians, and protects their killing of civilians.
 

Newell Steamer

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I feel sorry for the loss of life.

I am also dreading the re-awakening of the all the conspiracy theorists over this,..
 

Jaskalas

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I feel sorry for the loss of life.

I am also dreading the re-awakening of the all the conspiracy theorists over this,..

What conspiracy?

Russian AA weapons in the hands of Russians. Instead of shooting yet another Ukraine military aircraft they took down a passenger jetliner.
 

squarecut1

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We have all been informed by the President that this is a terrible tragedy. Just so that we all know
 

ivwshane

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Msnbc just got trolled, I'm sure we will see the clip show up on youtube. It sounded like an old disgruntled white guy, you know, your typical right wing loser.
 

Newell Steamer

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What conspiracy?

Russian AA weapons in the hands of Russians. Instead of shooting yet another Ukraine military aircraft they took down a passenger jetliner.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/17/malaysia-airlines-passenger-jet-shot-down-over-ukraine/

"It wasn't the separatists, although Russia will try to blame them, or blame the Ukrainians."

And on, and on, and on, and on,...

That the one lost in the pacific was a test / trail run to shoot down this one. And this one was a test to shoot down American planes.
 

Fern

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History check: Iranian passenger jet shot down with total loss of life by U.S. forces and the lack of consequences? Throw a stone parable, lest ye be without sin.

Not too long ago there was a lotta 'noise' about it actually being the Iranians (and not Libya) behind the Lockerbie incident in retaliation for the Iranian plane.

Fern
 
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