The world knows what happened. a missile fired from pro russian forces blew it up at 35,000 feet. the black box isn't going to tell you anything we dont already know.
The black boxes aren't going to show anything other than the plane was cruising at a given altitude/speed and a catastrophic explosion occurred.
the russians will make it look like a plane defect.
werepossum is supporting the Russians? That's news to me. More likely, he just made a mistake in his post.
Yes, the Middle East is part of the "Asian" continent however, I've never heard anyone referring to the Middle East as being West Asia. Nor people referring to Russia as being North Asia. When most people speak of Asia they're commonly referring to India, China, Burma, North/South Korea, and Japan*. They consider Southeast Asia as being the countries of Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Philippines*, Malaysia*, and Indonesia*
* Not actually part of the Asian Continent.
the russians will make it look like a plane defect.
My bad.
I thought he was responding to Senseamp. Hopefully this mess has given Senseamp a more realistic understanding of who the Muscovite fundamentalists actually are.
the russians will make it look like a plane defect.
I have a much better understanding of it than you. Countries have strategic interests, and they act on them. But they also have economic interests that restrain them. Russia has always emphasized strategic over economic, because in that neck of the woods, you are either the big dog, or you are the meat. That's why Poland and Ukraine keep getting partitioned and repartitioned through history, and Muscovite has emerged as a regional power.
I have a much better understanding of it than you. Countries have strategic interests, and they act on them. But they also have economic interests that restrain them. Russia has always emphasized strategic over economic, because in that neck of the woods, you are either the big dog, or you are the meat. That's why Poland and Ukraine keep getting partitioned and repartitioned through history, and Muscovite has emerged as a regional power.
Ok then, what is Obama not doing that he should? Please provide specific policies that you believe would be appropriate for him to put in place and what would be accomplished by his doing so.
well, how about a good old fashioned coalition grain embargo.
well, how about a good old fashioned coalition grain embargo.
http://www.world-grain.com/Departments/Country Focus/Country Focus Home/Focus on Russia.aspx?cck=1Russia is a major grain exporter. The IGC puts its total grain imports at just 400,000 tonnes in 2013-14, compared with 1.2 million following the poor harvest of the previous year, while its exports are put at 18.8 million tonnes, up from 15.5 million.
Obama's weak, as usual.
The nukes should already have been in the air by now.
Obama's weak, as usual.
The nukes should already have been in the air by now.
Putin may actually use this as an excuse for backing off in Eastern Ukraine, hopefully bringing this whole mess to a faster conclusion, once the rebels run out of support and various Russian paramilitaries head home.
The Poles and Ukrainians have been bullied for the last hundreds of years constantly. Why I do not know but I know that both the Poles and Lithuanians used to be very powerful. As for the Ukrainians I am not sure exaclty how old there are as an Slavic ethnicity but they are not the same as Russians anymore. This has been an ongoing proccess for at least some hundreds of years. How distinct Kyiv and Muscovey and Novgorad were back then I do not know right now until I start to delve more into Slavic history.
I just fundamentally disagree. Why should the rest of the world have to change to accommodate these pieces of shit? Fuck them. We have enough evidence to prove who did it. The guilty parties should be put to death. If Putin had a single shred of integrity he would do it himself and get the rest of his minions under control. But no, he's taking the cowardly way out and trying to cover up the evidence and shift the blame. The sign of a poor leader.
So where are those links from Alex Jones that "prove" this was a false flag attack by U.S. agents to discredit the Russians and the Russian backed separatists?
Or did I miss them?
This is true. Also, the nature of perceived justice changes according to the society and culture, and we all choose starting points that tend to benefit us. Even divine justice is unknowable - is that our enlightened twenty-first century Western Christian justice, or the barbaric justice of Leviticus, or Buddhist Karma, or rigidly defined Sharia? None of us can know with certainty, so all we can do is come together within each society and establish our common definition with the understanding that this too shall change with time.The reality of life is that sometimes justice is not worth the cost. It might be here, but it may not be. We will see what happens.