Incel. probably pissed his sister wouldn't sleep with him.
Also, shooter killed his own sister? Yikes.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dayton-o...dentified-sister-among-9-killed-officials-say
Well, it doesn't help that we have a cable news system that turns murderers into celebrities by posting their names and photos all over the place for a few days after mass shooting incidents like this one. If CNN really wants to stem gun violence, perhaps they should start by looking at their own actions first.
I'm asking how that matters and pointing out that there is nothing that makes that platform especially more deadly than other common firearms.
I'm asking how that matters and pointing out that there is nothing that makes that platform especially more deadly than other common firearms.
OK, but there was an assault weapons ban that was introduced by Diane Feinstein, IIRC in place from 1994 to 2004 when it expired. A replacement (I think also introduced by Diane Feinstein, Senator from California), stalled in the Senate.I don't like the way the media is processing the shootings.
Having different people from supposedly related areas of knowledge trying to inform the general public on how to survive a mass shooting or how to react or what to look for or what you should do in the event of.
Really?
Why not include the asking of why the hell congress and a president refuse to address this? Isn't it about time for mass protesting nation wide instead of mass shootings? Or targeting from the voting booth members of congress like Mitch McConnell instead of targeting innocent people at a Walmart?
I really wonder just how many of these mass shootings America will tolerate?
And how long Americans will tolerate their leaders doing absolutely nothing to address this?
You can not be home schooled on how to avoid a mass shooter or how to recognize a person about to engage in mass shooting.
When the shots start flying it takes a few seconds to first realize the pops are not simple fireworks. And by then its probably too late.
And it takes a few seconds to go from stunned and shocked to running, screaming, and escaping. That is.... if you even know which way to escape to.
And if you even know from what direction the shots are coming from.
No one goes to a movie or restaurant or large gathering expecting to engage a mass shooter.
Like with Donald Trump suggesting the answer to school shootings is to arm teachers. That doesn't work. And the media with their experts telling people how to react if caught in a mass shooting, that won't work either.
It happens too fast.
And on the shooters side is the element of surprise.
If the shooter knew the element of surprise would not exist then the shooter would never take the risk.
SO you can't teach people how to react to something like a mass shooter because they happen so fast and always unexpectedly. In the end you are either one of the victims or one of the very very lucky.
If we really want to stop this new American pastime and reduce the instances of mass shootings then we must march and protest and vote people out of office.
And finally, we need to force our leaders to enact laws.
In other words..... address this from a different angle altogether.
From am angle congress has never once tried, and refuses to try.
I'm still trying to find a reference to the gun industry calling something like an AR-15 an assault weapon. Where is this info? I've never seen them marketed as "assault weapons." The earliest "definition" that I've seen referring to them as assault weapons was the assault weapons ban in 1994, and that wasn't exactly the gun industry.
Edit: That being said, it really doesn't matter what you call them. If you want to ban something, just say what you want to ban: semi automatic rifles with high capacity magazines. The type of stock, grip, flash hider, etc... have no bearing on how many bullets the gun can shoot in a given amount of time.
I was honestly shocked tonight watching network news. They interviewed a guy who said it's in no way difficult to obtain an assault weapon even where they are illegal in the USA. Just go to a flea market or gun show and buy one in the parking lot. It's bloody legal! That wasn't what shocked me, I already knew that. They announced the estimated number of assault rifles in the USA. When I realized they were about to declare the numbers, in my mind I thought 100,000? They said 15 to IIRC 25 million!I just really wish we could identify the magic number of guns that solves the gun violence problem 300,000,000 just isn't enough.
No maybe about it, it's the damned fact.Maybe easy access to guns is the problem?
Deny them the weapons & ammo. How do you determine who's entitled to buy them and who isn't? Simple. DENY EVERYBODY.So aside from the general snears and stupid remarks against conservatives, whats the end all solution here? Instead of just retarded remarks, why not debate how we solve this since it's so easy?
How do we combat these? If your answer is simply "more background checks" then you would have to show how it would have prevented this (and other recent) mass shootings. Because each one of these recent shooters went through a background check.
Until the unimaginable happens in your little neck of the woods. There's no safe place in the USA. None. You and yours don't give a shit? Then YOU are the problem.The debate already happened.
Someone said start taking guns off the street and then the liberties and freedoms ended the debate
At least that what I heard. We dont have gun culture in my area and gun owners are a minority so this whole mass shooting thing is a quaint little problem we get to half listen too.
I was honestly shocked tonight watching network news. They interviewed a guy who said it's in no way difficult to obtain an assault weapon even where they are illegal in the USA. Just go to a flea market or gun show and buy one in the parking lot. It's bloody legal! That wasn't what shocked me, I already knew that. They announced the estimated number of assault rifles in the USA. When I realized they were about to declare the numbers, in my mind I thought 100,000? They said 15 to IIRC 25 million!
You lack imagination. If you make a gun illegal to possess, what's the point in possessing it? Anything you do with it that reveals that you have it to people in a position to execute the law will result in your prosecution. If the laws are stiff enough, that will be a sufficient deterrent to eventually reduce and virtually eliminate the problem. There's nothing special about America, the people here are homo sapiens just like the people in England, Australia, wherever.Sadly, even if they were to 'take our guns' it's not going to actually work how people want it to. It will just shift the power. Banning any type of weapon at this point doesn't change who has the guns now, because those people aren't going to just 'turn their guns in'. A psycho kid who's parents have the guns and won't give up the guns is still going to have access to said guns. Gangs will still have guns. Military will still have guns (personal). Cops will still shoot unarmed people. Militant psycho people who've been collecting guns for years are still going to have guns. People who do things like this in most cases didn't just pick the gun up in the last week from the corner store.
What we are going to be leaning towards is marshall law. Unlawful search and seizure, etc. I do feel something will be done soon, and it won't be pretty when it does. I know people seem to have this unrealistic idea that this will happen in some peaceful manner like other countries, but we are not other countries.
Yeah, I know. What shocked me was that there are more than 15M assault weapons in the USA.There are at least 300M guns in the US.
Yeah, I know. What shocked me was that there are more than 15M assault weapons.
Military style carbines are generally the weapon of choice for mass murder. They are extremely well designed to accomplish that & very little else of practical value. The cartridge, the action & the features are all engineered towards a single purpose, killing large numbers of people in as short a period of time as possible. Many handguns are engineered the same way. That's not true of all firearms at all.
The gun companies and magazines did start using the term in the 1980's. But it was gun control that politicised the description.I always laugh that they rage about how liberals are afraid of guns so they gave them names like "assault rifles" when it was the fucking gun companies themselves that did that to market to the scared shitless gun nuts. But then we know they can't seem to ever know what they're talking about.
The gun companies and magazines did start using the term in the 1980's. But it was gun control that politicised the description.
From the VIolence POlicy Center in 1988, when the idea of "ban assault weapons" was hatched: "Handgun restriction is simply not viewed as a priority. Assault weapons ... are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons."
ban all long guns with mags.
The big complaint that law abiding gun owners make about outlawing guns is that if you do that only criminals will have guns. OK fine. Outlaw guns and the people who keep them will know who they are. But if being a criminal is such a horrible thing, they will turn them in.
Maybe we can make any guns or ammo legal but the death penalty for anybody who loads a gun with ammo and gets caught.
Seriously, why do we in America, rather unlike the rest of the world, have these contests, generally among young white males, to see how many people they can kill. It's not likely a gene. It's something in American culture, or a combination of things.
Ask yourself. What would you have to be feeling to pick up a gun and plan a way to kill as many people as you can, generally, after you have left some kind of statement. Is it that you feel hopeless about your future, what you will become, whether you will have a woman? How many of these gunmen are in loving sexual relationships? How many have children? How many know they might have mental health issues, that hopelessness can be overcome? What kind of self respect or capacity to do something worthwhile do they have? Do you think they are self confident and enjoying life? Do you think they get any satisfaction in life because of the appreciation they receive from others?
I think American culture is sick, competitive, and egotistically individualistic. We are all alone and the world is against us. Cowboys silently suffering behind our tough guy masks until something pulls that mask off and we come out guns a blazing.
Psychology, spiritual development, emotional understanding, all for pussies. If you carry American Culture in your being, you are the reason for gun violence. The outliers of the distribution curve of mental health in this country are way way off the map and all of us Americans are why our curve is way way over in crazy land. This is the land of Big Shots, and that's why there is so much shooting. Look at our Big Shot Trump if you want to see mental illness. You are a nobody to him.
Until the unimaginable happens in your little neck of the woods. There's no safe place in the USA. None. You and yours don't give a shit? Then YOU are the problem.
That’s like, 99% of rifles.