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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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Honest opinion here - but if you are "seeking asylum" then crossing 5 countries to the one of your choosing isn't asylum.

Asylum is going to the nearest safe place to rid yourself of domestic-based dangers - of which there are plenty of reasonably safe ones throughout South America - and likely plenty within that same country.

Ignorance is not an excuse. If you want to immigrate legally, be honest. Claiming asylum and crossing 5 borders is fucking hilariously stupid. You're asinine if you call that asylum.

People from Guatemala cross 1 border before appearing at our own. People from Honduras & El Salvador cross the Guatemalan border twice to get here. Mexico has to let them thru to maintain domestic tranquillity.
 

alien42

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Honest opinion here - but if you are "seeking asylum" then crossing 5 countries to the one of your choosing isn't asylum.

Asylum is going to the nearest safe place to rid yourself of domestic-based dangers - of which there are plenty of reasonably safe ones throughout South America - and likely plenty within that same country.

Ignorance is not an excuse. If you want to immigrate legally, be honest. Claiming asylum and crossing 5 borders is fucking hilariously stupid. You're asinine if you call that asylum.

so you're saying desperate people won't walk thousands of miles to seek asylum and a better future?

you know, like millions of people have done, except they usually sail or fly instead of walking, into the US for over 200 years.

it's the foundation of our great nation.
 
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SlowSpyder

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This isn't the first group of hundreds or thousands pulling this stunt. Say what you want about the wall, but it'd help here.
 

Jhhnn

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This isn't the first group of hundreds or thousands pulling this stunt. Say what you want about the wall, but it'd help here.

The intent is to present themselves as asylum seekers at border crossings, not to enter this country illegally. A wall won't change that.
 
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SlowSpyder

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The intent is to present themselves as asylum seekers at border crossings, not to enter this country illegally. A wall won't change that.


So far they've charged across borders illegally. I think they're using asylum as an excuse and should be turned back.
 

K1052

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Honest opinion here - but if you are "seeking asylum" then crossing 5 countries to the one of your choosing isn't asylum.

Asylum is going to the nearest safe place to rid yourself of domestic-based dangers - of which there are plenty of reasonably safe ones throughout South America - and likely plenty within that same country.

Ignorance is not an excuse. If you want to immigrate legally, be honest. Claiming asylum and crossing 5 borders is fucking hilariously stupid. You're asinine if you call that asylum.

Nah seems fair since we, in large part, are responsible for ruining their countries.
 
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Nah seems fair since we, in large part, are responsible for ruining their countries.
Really, now how exactly do we ruin these countries besides heavily supporting them by sending hundreds of millions of dollars, importing their produce/farming, and buying their oil? Please do tell.

Oh Its because our stupid citizens also buy drugs from cartels present in those countries huh? Yeah, guess it's our own damn fault.


In fact, probably what we do the worst to hurt these countries is that we import their A+ most valuable citizens legally, leaving them the table scraps as far as labor value.
 

VRAMdemon

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Lol..Trump claims that the immigrant caravan coming up through Mexico is coming to vote for Democrats in the midterm election.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/19/polit...ons/index.html

I wonder how he expects that to happen?!..

Meh, who am I kidding..Trumpies down here have been already convinced that George Soros personally flew 3 million Central American illegals to the US in November of 2016 to vote for Hillary Clinton. A caravan or two already on the way (they have two whole weeks to get here!!) is nothing unbelievable when you've swallowed that.
 
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SlowSpyder

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Lol..Trump claims that the immigrant caravan coming up through Mexico is coming to vote for Democrats in the midterm election.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/19/polit...ons/index.html

I wonder how he expects that to happen?!..

Meh, who am I kidding..Trumpies down here have been already convinced that George Soros personally flew 3 million Central American illegals to the US in November of 2016 to vote for Hillary Clinton. A caravan or two already on the way (they have two whole weeks to get here!!) is nothing unbelievable when you've swallowed that.


This is what the Dem's want. More and more poor that are dependent on government handouts that will keep them in power. It is sick. Keep people perpetually poor to stay in power, keep them on the Democrat plantation.
 

Starbuck1975

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The intent is to present themselves as asylum seekers at border crossings, not to enter this country illegally. A wall won't change that.
Which they can do at Mexico’s southern border. I am actually surprised to see Mexico supporting Trump in taking a more hardline stance.
 

Jhhnn

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This is what the Dem's want. More and more poor that are dependent on government handouts that will keep them in power. It is sick. Keep people perpetually poor to stay in power, keep them on the Democrat plantation.

That would be the Job Creators' plantation, I take it. It's also known as the Rust Belt, iirc.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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Yea, here are two 21 hour a week jobs that pay low wages on the plantain.

Job Creator action! We should all be grateful for whatever they give us! Bow down before them & give them tax cuts because of all the wonderful & unselfish things they've done for this country over the last 40 years!
 

zinfamous

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I am sure you believe all the drivel you have been fed. Important key for life, learn to reason for yourself. Also, those with more life experience than you see a much larger picture and can tell the difference between truth and lies.

"Important key for life"

This is no phrase that a native English speaker uses. Period.

You are a Russian. Period.

Now, onto your hilarious lack of articles. You have been tagged.
 

zinfamous

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Reality is in the eye of the beholder .... Soros put 19 billion in his leftist foundation for trouble-making. Its not much of a stretch to see his involvement. Whether you believe or not is up to you, it doesn't change reality whatever it happens to be. I frankly don't care whether you do or not. It makes no difference to me.

Bold lack of primary article, and vague subject assertion.

Russian.

LoL, you fool: this is how idiots like you get banned from Facebook. The GRU has now logged your predictable failure, you fucking idiot. Looks like your family isn't eating this week.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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This is what the Dem's want. More and more poor that are dependent on government handouts that will keep them in power. It is sick. Keep people perpetually poor to stay in power, keep them on the Democrat plantation.

So, you're supporting Trump's assertion that these people are coming here to vote?

You blatantly said this in your quoted post here, I want you to repeat your agreement with that claim.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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So, you're supporting Trump's assertion that these people are coming here to vote?

You blatantly said this in your quoted post here, I want you to repeat your agreement with that claim.
Did Trump really say that? Do the folks who support him have any idea of how stupid he knows them to be?
 

K1052

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Really, now how exactly do we ruin these countries besides heavily supporting them by sending hundreds of millions of dollars, importing their produce/farming, and buying their oil? Please do tell.

We import no significant amount oil from Honduras, El Salvador, or Guatemala. If we were not sending foreign aid this situation would be markedly worse than it is now which I'm sure people have trouble comprehending. If you really want to get into the history of how the US has abused basically everybody to the south of us over the last century and a half we can go all the way back to the Monroe doctrine if you want. We've stolen land, propped up murderous dictators, funded and fomented rebellion, gone to war and killed people for corporate interests, stifled political dissent, etc for many many decades. There is probably nowhere on earth that we've interfered with more.

Oh Its because our stupid citizens also buy drugs from cartels present in those countries huh? Yeah, guess it's our own damn fault.

Actually yes along with a half century of violent, misguided government drug policy. The drug war and our actions in it have crippled those countries economically and from a safety standpoint.

In fact, probably what we do the worst to hurt these countries is that we import their A+ most valuable citizens legally, leaving them the table scraps as far as labor value.

This doesn't even make any sense when the nations, are for practical purposes, somewhat or nearly lawless because of induced violence.
 
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