Is this relevant information?
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/introducing-the-geforce-gtx-760
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/introducing-the-geforce-gtx-760
The problem is that some of the parts in his build are out of stock, and there's no telling when they'll be available again.
Is this relevant information?
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/introducing-the-geforce-gtx-760
^ Maybe. They're priced OK. What really makes the Radeons tempting is that they're effectively $40/game cheaper, for any one game they come with that you actually play, and performance is similar.
CPU+MB: http://promotions.newegg.com/intel/13-2602/index.html
The MSI one is back in stock. At $80 off, even though you don't need any overclocking capability, it ends up about the same price as trying to work combos for a decent H-series board. That was what made choosing parts for around $1000 really annoying...knowing that was || close, but not purchasable. Without wanting specific looks or features, many parts are pretty much interchangeable, so it comes down to a bang/buck comparison.
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&SID=u00000687
The promo code that makes it $45 ends in 2 days.
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139026
$20 AMIR, and worth it during the rare times when it's not on sale...can't beat it, for stock speed operation.
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&SID=u00000687
The Challenger is a fine case for the money. I'm one of those people that wish all blue LEDs on electronics would disappear, so I'll never go out of my way to recommend one . The Cooler Master is expensive mostly for its looks. It and a few Antecs that have been around awhile are highly overrated, IMO.
Then, the rest from here, SSD optional, and Windows 7 or 8 Home 64-bit OEM.
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139026
$20 AMIR, and worth it during the rare times when it's not on sale...can't beat it, for stock speed operation.
Also, I'm still getting hung up on the goddamn case! I keep scouring through page after page of them on Newegg trying to find one for a decent price that has a good amount of fans, preferably larger in size, but won't sound like an air conditioner at the same time. I just don't want things overheating!
I was looking at the Rosewill Blackhawk, the Cooler Master Storm Sniper, and a couple other ones. I've tried, but I just can't shake this obsession with having larger fans (200mm), and more of them. The Storm Sniper case looks great, and it's got a discount of about $28... Ugh. I don't know which to pick!
Yeesh, that's pushing it.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2050/11/Yeesh, that's pushing it.
Worrying too much. You can get crap cases, but if you get a case with a good rep, it will not be a problem. Really. The Challenger will be fine, as will any number of Corsair or Fractal Design or NZXT or Bitfenix or...you get the idea. Without multi-GPU, heavy overclocking, water cooling (needed due to pushing thermal limits from overclocking), etc., you won't get anything worth noting with most of the more expensive cases, outside of aesthetics. You could spend a bit more on a Fractal Design R4 or Silverstone Kubai, to get things a little quieter, but the Challenger will be fine, if you're not crazy about making it really quiet (among other cases).Also, I'm still getting hung up on the goddamn case! I keep scouring through page after page of them on Newegg trying to find one for a decent price that has a good amount of fans, preferably larger in size, but won't sound like an air conditioner at the same time. I just don't want things overheating!
Oh, absolutely, if you want to go nVidia. It's a little expensive, but not by much, and except for a couple models, the GTX 670 was generally overpriced, compared to its Radeon competition,
The GTX 760, while just released, clearly trades blows with the Radeon HD 7950, possibly being a touch faster, on average. Not counting any included games, they look like they're priced right.
As already mentioned a few times ITT, this is a kind of big thing.and come with big game bundles right now.
No. ATI's drivers sucked, years ago, and the idea still has inertia. nVidia's drivers aren't as good as they used to be, and AMD's drivers are solid. They're both quite reliable, but with annoying bugs cropping up sometimes.I've read that the drivers for AMD are worse or less updated than NVIDIA, though. True?
The 7950 is a bit cheaper (look at the Sapphire linked in this thread and mfenn's thread for a good deal from a good maker), the 7970 a little faster, and more expensive. If you think you'd be interested in the included games, there's a good bit of extra value, and gateway drugs to Steam (also, check out GoG).Looking at the AMD 7000 series, should I look at a 7950, and a 7970?
No. ATI's drivers sucked, years ago, and the idea still has inertia. nVidia's drivers aren't as good as they used to be, and AMD's drivers are solid. They're both quite reliable, but with annoying bugs cropping up sometimes.
The 7950 is a bit cheaper (look at the Sapphire linked in this thread and mfenn's thread for a good deal from a good maker), the 7970 a little faster, and more expensive. If you think you'd be interested in the included games, there's a good bit of extra value, and gateway drugs to Steam (also, check out GoG).
Thing is, while faster/slower, you're not going to come across any game that will have playable performance on a HD 7970, that won't be just as playable on a HD 7950 or GTX 760, at any resolution around 1080P. If you want to stay closer to your target budget, the 7950 or 760 will allow that, while still offering great performance. Shooters can run a little smoother with a GTX 770 or HD 7970, and you can turn up the detail and/or add more eye candy mods to slower-paced games like RPGs, but it's not going to be a major difference, without a high-res monitor (such as 2560x1440).
IoW: one's faster, and you get what you pay for; one's slower, and you can do something else with the money you save. But, going much lower in price, you can start to lose performance/$ just as much as with raising it, and the $250-350 cards from both companies currently seem to offer the most bang/buck, right now. Even substantially cheaper cards can play any game out there or coming out soon just fine, the faster ones can just do it faster and/or with more eye candy enabled.
Since nVidia locked the GPU voltage a few driver versions back, overclocking potential has been pretty similar between AMD and nV, and both get about the same for a given % overclock, so that's going to be fairly even, between them.
No. ATI's drivers sucked, years ago, and the idea still has inertia. nVidia's drivers aren't as good as they used to be, and AMD's drivers are solid. They're both quite reliable, but with annoying bugs cropping up sometimes.
The 7950 is a bit cheaper (look at the Sapphire linked in this thread and mfenn's thread for a good deal from a good maker), the 7970 a little faster, and more expensive. If you think you'd be interested in the included games, there's a good bit of extra value, and gateway drugs to Steam (also, check out GoG).
Thing is, while faster/slower, you're not going to come across any game that will have playable performance on a HD 7970, that won't be just as playable on a HD 7950 or GTX 760, at any resolution around 1080P. If you want to stay closer to your target budget, the 7950 or 760 will allow that, while still offering great performance. Shooters can run a little smoother with a GTX 770 or HD 7970, and you can turn up the detail and/or add more eye candy mods to slower-paced games like RPGs, but it's not going to be a major difference, without a high-res monitor (such as 2560x1440).
IoW: one's faster, and you get what you pay for; one's slower, and you can do something else with the money you save. But, going much lower in price, you can start to lose performance/$ just as much as with raising it, and the $250-350 cards from both companies currently seem to offer the most bang/buck, right now. Even substantially cheaper cards can play any game out there or coming out soon just fine, the faster ones can just do it faster and/or with more eye candy enabled.
Since nVidia locked the GPU voltage a few driver versions back, overclocking potential has been pretty similar between AMD and nV, and both get about the same for a given % overclock, so that's going to be fairly even, between them.
:thumbsup: Great way of putting it.
I would personally go for the 7970 Ghz for $350 (which is why I put the build together that way!), because IMHO the GPU is the #1 determiner of GPU performance. Cerb is absolutely right that the incremental difference between the 7950 (or GTX 760) and the 7970 GHz won't make a difference between playable and unplayable at 1080p. I just like getting the most GPU I can for the money.
Total waste. The case comes with all you'll need, already installed. If you wanted to change it around a little and give slightly lower temps to your video card, you could move the top fan to the side, as an intake (which would also make it significantly positive pressure). It's not just the $24/$9, but that with a single GPU, the single front 200m as a lone intake is probably enough to cool everything sufficiently, already (if the drive cage makes it not quite enough, it'll still be awfully close). A 4th fan in the mix is just going to make it collect dust quicker.7) Cooler Master 200mm Case Fan
Retail: $23.99 > $7 Instant > $8 Rebate = $8.99
Hullo! Just popping in here as I'd been checking this too, I myself sort of need a mouse for my build too and thought 'Oi that looks nice'. Just to let you know that your math is off by ten, it comes in at 29,74. it's 44,99 - 15,25 or 34,99 - 5,25.
All I can say is that you probably don't need an extra case fan, and you can probably get a better monitor (one with less input lag), like the Dell U2312HM. Try to submit your order in 2 groups so you can use the Newegg giftcard that comes with the CPU right away.
Finally, if you're getting a gaming mouse, it should at least come with extra buttons at the side--you shouldn't pay $30 for a higher polling rate and DPI (the latter of which is almost entirely marketing anyway). Look at the Logitech G400.
Total waste. The case comes with all you'll need, already installed. If you wanted to change it around a little and give slightly lower temps to your video card, you could move the top fan to the side, as an intake (which would also make it significantly positive pressure). It's not just the $24/$9, but that with a single GPU, the single front 200m as a lone intake is probably enough to cool everything sufficiently, already (if the drive cage makes it not quite enough, it'll still be awfully close). A 4th fan in the mix is just going to make it collect dust quicker.