I mean it's not exactly high on my list either, but I was just asking a question. It seems like both groups are mostly regurgitating platitudes or platitudes about platitudes.
I have not.
Trolling the "Thoughts and Prayers" crowd is like, way way down on the list of things I give a shit about.
You know what? It might not be on that list at all, come to think of it.
Have you considered Tots and Pears?
This should answer your question:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-shows-sight-santa-fe-150800287.html
I mean it's not exactly high on my list either, but I was just asking a question. It seems like both groups are mostly regurgitating platitudes or platitudes about platitudes.
So it seems he was a Trump fan and Gun enthusiast.
Deleted instagram followings.
Yeah, like Venezuela maybe? They disarmed there whole population, and now have the second highest murder rate in the world and some of the highest crime rates on earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Venezuela
Nothing good happens after you disarm your population, just ask the jews, or the Russians, or anyone currently living in Venezuela.
To start off my thoughts and prayers are with the fallen. A truly sad day.
Yeah, like Venezuela maybe? They disarmed there whole population, and now have the second highest murder rate in the world and some of the highest crime rates on earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Venezuela
Nothing good happens after you disarm your population, just ask the jews, or the Russians, or anyone currently living in Venezuela.
There are studies that can show tighter gun laws help and some that dont. Stats can be bent many ways to show many things. But one thing is for certain and thats any outright ban sometimes leads to much death of the disarmed population, usually carried out by the government that had disarmed them.
ill leave this here as well, explains alot about the past centuries gun bans/genocides, which ones are true and false, and is generally a good article on the subject of disarming your population and what can happen and what has happened in the past when this has occured.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/little-gun-history/
quote of the conclusion:
"Based on the actual evidence at hand, we find it reasonable to conclude that gun confiscations, facilitated by laws requiring the registration and/or licensing of firearms, played a crucial role in the carrying out of twentieth-century genocides. However, gun control per se — properly defined as a set of laws regulating gun ownership that can range from minimally restrictive to outright prohibitive — is neither a cause nor even a reliable predictor of mass exterminations, whereas the presence of a repressive military dictatorship most certainly is."
So with this
"Based on the actual evidence at hand, we find it reasonable to conclude that gun confiscations, facilitated by laws requiring the registration and/or licensing of firearms, played a crucial role in the carrying out of twentieth-century genocides"
We are aware that gun bans/confiscations(which alot of people in the US are screaming for) have lead to the deaths of some 10-50 million people in the past century or so(exact number is highly debated). And while there is no guarantee this would happen in the US, i do believe if you tried to take all the guns from your population it would start a civil war, and there would be many deaths because of it, and it would end up added to that article i posted as another statistic of what can happen with a gun ban.
Have gun laws saved 10-50 million people over the past century? who knows i have not seen a study on lives saved by gun laws, but one thing is for sure, that banning them has caused many many deaths worldwide.
Not sure what the solution is, i think there are already to many guns for banning to work in the US. Making more laws will not help because the people committing these crimes are criminals and criminals by definition do not follow laws, and with so many guns already in the US its not like its hard for a criminal to find one even if you stopped imports of guns now there is simply to many already there. You guys have rough days ahead, i wish you the best of luck with your issues and hope you guys find a solution that works.
What does "deleted instagram followings" mean? Like he stopped following them before the shooting (to try to conceal his politics) or they deleted him as a follower after the shooting?
In one fell swoop, you've made a sweeping generalization and assumption as to their beliefs regarding a huge number of people in this country. Are they really protecting the status quo merely by saying 'thoughts and prayers'? No way. I'm sure the vast majority of these people actually do want to do something to protect ourselves (especially our children) from gun violence more effectively. Polling for stricter gun laws is running sky high right now...that said, there's absolutely no reason to believe that the 'thoughts and prayers' folks are extreme outliers who want to protect the status quo.I think that the point is that the people who 'sincerely' offer thoughts and prayers are usually the ones that are outraged if anything is actually suggested to address the problem.
Is it really empathy if they are protecting the status quo that is allowing these things to happen or is it just lip service?
Yeah, I think comparing Venezuela to the US was a smart move on your part, I mean, the two countries are so similar. Bringing up nazi Germany who banned the Jews from having guns is another great example of yours as well. Its a well known fact that had the Jews had guns they could have fought back against the nazis and more than likely the rest of the German citizens who were allowed to keep their guns would have come to their defense. The fact that they became a military state, I'm sure played no role (after all, if it did I'm sure your snopes article would have mentioned that). Now had you used Australia as your example, well, I would of had to call you out on such craziness. I mean, that country banned and confiscated their guns after mass shooting and look at them now, it's been complete chaos over there. Plus if we look at other countries we see that, sure they have way lower deaths by gun, but their violent crime rate is slightly higher than ours. If you are like me, I'm sure you'd rather be dead than severely beaten. I'll take my pain quick and easy thank you.
Your other argument of, only criminals break the law, was also a really good point. In fact I think it could be argued that if we had no laws then we wouldn't have any criminals. I'm not sure why lawmakers or society as a whole haven't really embraced that idea.
What country did you say you were from again?
This is what many people offer to express their empathy and compassion...your ridicule of these people speaks volumes about you....and not in a good way.
Freud would say that the gun is a way of connecting to the lost phallic potency that these males are experiencing.
Is there potentially a way to study the shooters that are in custody and find something wrong with them developmentally that we can screen for?
In one fell swoop, you've made a sweeping generalization and assumption as to their beliefs regarding a huge number of people in this country. Are they really protecting the status quo merely by saying 'thoughts and prayers'? No way. I'm sure the vast majority of these people actually do want to do something to protect ourselves (especially our children) from gun violence more effectively. Polling for stricter gun laws is running sky high right now...that said, there's absolutely no reason to believe that the 'thoughts and prayers' folks are extreme outliers who want to protect the status quo.
People and their opinions are diverse. Broadly stereotyping these people is a form of soft bigotry imo.
this girl just graduated from kent state. a friend of mine agrees with her - every person in the US needs to carry a gun on them at all times. i think it sounds kind of crazy but he insists this will solve all shootings.
Well, he might have needed a couple of knives.
Well. This is a disturbing bit of trivia for you. So far this year 29 kids have been killed going to school. 13 US service members have been killed in combat zones and 7 of those were in a helicopter crash in Iraq this year.
Thats fucked up.
If you Americans diverted even 1/10 of the "world police" fund and taking care of your own you all would be living better.
Stop electing politicians bent on pissing on the rest of the world.
Hey. You take that back!If you Americans diverted even 1/10 of the "world police" fund and taking care of your own you all would be living better.
Stop electing politicians bent on pissing on the rest of the world.
[Morpheus]What if I told you that the people mindlessly repeating "thoughts and prayers" are the actual trolls, and the people mocking them are just trying to cope with the gaslighting?[/Morpheus]
That’s impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth. There is no shooting.Maybe they are both trolling maybe they are both trying to cope
Hey. You take that back!
Never call a Canadian an American!
Dammit you ARE Canadian.
Maybe they are both trolling maybe they are both trying to cope