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Skurge

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Yeah in an AMD dominated forum Im sure I wont be. The OP said he isn't worried about saving a few bucks he wants the better card and clearly its the 570 in his case. If he was going for multi-monitor or 2560x1600 I would recomend the 6970 in a second. Damn me for not being bias and recommending a Nvidia card when it fits.

Yes, that cause when someone doesn't agree with you, their biased. sure.

He wasn't worried about saving a few bucks if it was worth it. I don't think it is, and I showed why. That suddenly makes me biased? Are you for real?
 

mnewsham

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I appreciate your input, but that's not really true. In fact I am still quite torn about the subject lol. But ultimately it looks like the GTX 570 is the higher performing card regardless of price, and regardless of whether or not the 6950 will unlock to a 6970. I just don't wanna have a bad case of buyers remorse knowing I could have full well afforded the better performing card.

I can afford a Porsche but i drive a Prius My road penis might not be bigger but i still get from point A to point B just fine.
 

Skurge

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I appreciate your input, but that's not really true. In fact I am still quite torn about the subject lol. But ultimately it looks like the GTX 570 is the higher performing card regardless of price, and regardless of whether or not the 6950 will unlock to a 6970. I just don't wanna have a bad case of buyers remorse knowing I could have full well afforded the better performing card.

What exactly are your expectations with either of these cards?
 

happy medium

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I hate to say it dpodblod but your thread is being ruined and our friendly discussion and weighing the cons and pro's have just turned into a red vs green war .
Sorry, I hope I was helping before this mess.
 

badb0y

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The OP said he would wait but for some strange reason some people are still trying to get him to buy a 6950?

Go figure.
Nope, I am not forcing him to do anything just putting my advice out there.

Pick
My
Soy
Latte?

I appreciate your input, but that's not really true. In fact I am still quite torn about the subject lol. But ultimately it looks like the GTX 570 is the higher performing card regardless of price, and regardless of whether or not the 6950 will unlock to a 6970. I just don't wanna have a bad case of buyers remorse knowing I could have full well afforded the better performing card.
No problem man, I might have come out too strong there and I apologize for that but in terms of absolute performance we are literally talking about single digit performance differences here. If I could pick up a GTX 570 for 260$ I would jump on it too but if you don't find that deal the 6950 2GB is the second card I would jump on after that one.
I hate to say it dpodblod but your thread is being ruined and our friendly discussion and weighing the cons and pro's have just turned into a red vs green war .
Sorry, I hope I was helping before this mess.
It is a red vs green thread though so how else are we supposed to discuss?
 
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Skurge

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I hate to say it dpodblod but your thread is being ruined and our friendly discussion and weighing the cons and pro's have just turned into a red vs green war .
Sorry, I hope I was helping before this mess.

More like a 6950 vs 570 war.... Yeah, its a total thread derail alright.
 

badb0y

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My bad.


Hold on, weren't you saying 1GB was enough for 1080p? Also that flashing was useless as you only gain 3%?

in both cases it would still be a good buy... According to you.
Won't unlock though and the OP is looking for that in a card.
 

RussianSensation

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So let's summarize our findings:

You can either get an XFX 6950 2GB card, which comes with a modular Corsair HX-750Watt PSU --> that combo costs $465. In this case, you get a much better power supply (it achieved a Gold rating, has a 7 year warranty, and is extremely quiet) and a videocard with a lifetime warranty. This deal requires 1 rebate only.

On the other hand, you either get a $524 combo which has an NV card that's only ~3% faster at 1080P and an inferior quality power supply. Both of the PSU and the videocard have worse warranties to boot and require 2 rebates to just get down to these prices. Alternatively, the exact same thing for $537 on Newegg....is an even bigger price difference.

And consider also that taxes are charged PRE-rebate in Canada.
 
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mnewsham

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So let's summarize our findings:

You can either get an XFX 6950 2GB card, which comes with a modular Corsair HX-750Watt PSU --> that combo costs $465. In this case, you get a much better power supply (which has a 7 year warranty) and a videocard with a lifetime warranty. This deal requires 1 rebate only.

On the other hand, you either get a $524 combo which has a card that's only 3% faster at 1080P and an inferior power supply. Both of the PSU and the videocard have worse warranties to boot and require 2 rebates to just get down to these prices. Alternatively, the exact same thing for $537 on Newegg....is an even bigger price difference. Not to mention in Canada we pay taxes PRE-rebate. So the difference in price is even more than $60.

Yup, a GTX570 it is then.

I like how both the times you were commended in this thread it was for the wrong reasons.
 

Skurge

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Won't unlock though and the OP is looking for that in a card.

Didnt you know unlocking causes cancer.

On a serious note. Some people are saying unlocking isn't worth it, but have a problem when I link a card that doesn't and is cheaper. Talk about double standards.
 

Skurge

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So let's summarize our findings:

You can either get an XFX 6950 2GB card, which comes with a modular Corsair HX-750Watt PSU --> that combo costs $465. In this case, you get a much better power supply (which has a 7 year warranty) and a videocard with a lifetime warranty. This deal requires 1 rebate only.

On the other hand, you either get a $524 combo which has a card that's only 3% faster at 1080P and an inferior power supply. Both of the PSU and the videocard have worse warranties to boot and require 2 rebates to just get down to these prices. Alternatively, the exact same thing for $537 on Newegg....is an even bigger price difference.

This about sums it up :thumbsup:
 

dpodblood

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So let's summarize our findings:

You can either get an XFX 6950 2GB card, which comes with a modular Corsair HX-750Watt PSU --> that combo costs $465. In this case, you get a much better power supply (it achieved a Gold rating, has a 7 year warranty, and is extremely quiet) and a videocard with a lifetime warranty. This deal requires 1 rebate only.

On the other hand, you either get a $524 combo which has an NV card that's only ~3% faster at 1080P and an inferior quality power supply. Both of the PSU and the videocard have worse warranties to boot and require 2 rebates to just get down to these prices. Alternatively, the exact same thing for $537 on Newegg....is an even bigger price difference.

And consider also that taxes are charged PRE-rebate in Canada.

That's a nice deal, but it can be beat without using the combo if I stick with the 650w. See my crappy excel sheet below (prices from NCIX):

 

badb0y

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So let's summarize our findings:

You can either get an XFX 6950 2GB card, which comes with a modular Corsair HX-750Watt PSU --> that combo costs $465. In this case, you get a much better power supply (it achieved a Gold rating, has a 7 year warranty, and is extremely quiet) and a videocard with a lifetime warranty. This deal requires 1 rebate only.

On the other hand, you either get a $524 combo which has an NV card that's only ~3% faster at 1080P and an inferior quality power supply. Both of the PSU and the videocard have worse warranties to boot and require 2 rebates to just get down to these prices. Alternatively, the exact same thing for $537 on Newegg....is an even bigger price difference.

And consider also that taxes are charged PRE-rebate in Canada.
Pretty much /thread right there.

However if that 260$ GTX 570 ever came back in stock I would definitely jump on that.
 

Keysplayr

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Wow so much info bouncing around in my head! So it sounds like while the 6950 provides better "bang for your buck" overall the 570 will provide better performance. Since the $60 saved won't even factor into my next video card purchase, I am once again leaning towards the 570. Decisions, decisions...

Don't know if you decided yet, but you won't get a straight answer in this forum. That's why I probably won't participate in the "what card should I get" threads other than to say, go elsewhere for your answers. This forum is too jaded.
If you really look at all these posts carefully, each member cherry picks the info you are given to sway you to buy what they want you to buy. Sorry it has to be that way.

/keys
 

RussianSensation

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That's a nice deal, but it can be beat without using the combo if I stick with the 650w. See my crappy excel sheet below (prices from NCIX):


NCIX is having their Biggest Sale of the Year! Up to 60% off on selected items, starting March 9-16th. Why don't you just wait for that? Maybe they'll have a GTX570 for $270 again.
 
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dust

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Like others said, if you're running 1080 resolution, a 6950 2gb is all you need. If you get similar price for a 570 then it's a no brainer to get that one instead. As for the future proof stuff, it's likely for either solution to be enough for the next year or so(pending the DX11 for Crysis2 if you are interested in that).

It looks to me however that you were aiming for the 570 level of performance anyway, so it's probably best if you just buy that and call it a day. Whatever option you go for, I promise you that you'll be happy with it.

BTW, I just got a Gigabyte 6950 for myself for the same resolution and I'm pairing it with an Yorkfield platform. I would have considered the 570 also if the price difference would be minimal.
 

RussianSensation

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Well no deals on the GTX570 cards.

There is a nice deal on the Antec 650 Modular PSU for only $40. Combine that with a Gigabyte HD6950 2GB for $255 for a Sum of $295. Alternatively, you can pick up 2x HD6950s CF + Antec 650 Modular = $560. Power consumption of a full system with 2x HD6950s is ~ 480 Watts. So $50 more than what you intended to spend you can get a setup that will be 60-80% faster.

If you prefer NV, there is also a GTX560 Ti card for only $200. So 2 x 560 cards + Antec PSU package will be ~ $460.
 
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load81

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Why do you resort to this in every thread, " I am done with this, I am done with that," it's a discussion , if you would rather rant than discuss you can close the thread and move along.
More like in a sane forum, if the OP came in here looking for advice with a 6950 2gb and a 6970 I would give the same advice even thought the 6970 is faster. Absolute power is not always the best choice.

What are you talking about? Do you mean the other time I was jumped by 6-8 people for recommending a Nvidia card? All I said in this time is some people dont mind spending the extra cash knowing they got the better card and listed some of the 570's benefits. Its up to the OP to decide if those are important to him what more can I say? Im not going to argue and nitpick with 6 or more people again.

Yes, that cause when someone doesn't agree with you, their biased. sure.

He wasn't worried about saving a few bucks if it was worth it. I don't think it is, and I showed why. That suddenly makes me biased? Are you for real?

No nice try making it look that way but I didnt quote you. Read the thread people are forcing the lesser card on him when he said he may feel regret and also said "I think I will go with the higher performing card regardless". I dont know it kind of makes me think there is some kind of bias here.
 
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badb0y

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What are you talking about? Do you mean the other time I was jumped by 6-8 people for recommending a Nvidia card? All I said in this time is some people dont mind spending the extra cash knowing they got the better card and listed some of the 570's benefits. Its up to the OP to decide if those are important to him what more can I say? Im not going to argue and nitpick with 6 or more people again.



No nice try making it look that way but I didnt quote you. Read the thread people are forcing the lesser card on him when he said he may feel regret and also said "I think I will go with the higher performing car regardless". I dont know it kind of makes me think there is some kind of bias here.
There must be bias in all the forums then because I visit TPU and [H]ardForum a lot and the 6950 2GB is consistently brought up when people are considering buying a graphics card within the OP's budget.

The fact of the matter is the 6950 2 GB is a damn good value and it makes the GTX 570 and AMD 6970 look kind of silly to demand a price premium. Even if the card doesn't unlock, the clocks are guaranteed to go upto at least 6970 levels where it would be around 3% slower overall and still cost $250ish.
 
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