Another warm deal on mushkin memory. *Updated* lower price Shipped.

[SmokinToilet]

no stick for me,

but I bought 2 128 sticks for $64 each pc 100 --> 146FSB cas 2-2-2, kingston infinidon.(value ram) guess I'm lucky...
Im not saying mushkin sucks or anything, I just got these because its a good value. I have heard many good stories of mushkin, cosara and crucial memory

how high can mushkin go?? 155?, thats only 10mhz faster does 10mhz do alot at speeds of 800-1000 mhz?
lets say I oc pIII 700 to max of both,
kingston = 7*146 = 1022
mushkin = 7*155 = 1085
60 mhz? thats not too much of a difference if the cpu is already high...

lets say I oc PIII 550 to max,
kingston = 5.5*146 = 803
mushkin = 5.5*155 =853.5
50.5 mhz? I guess it matters if you have a slow cpu...

Since my comp is basically locked at 500 (non-coppermine) until I get a new cpu (700--> 1000) hoping
I'll stick with kingston because to OC I need a new cpu, which by that time it will be around 700+ mhz and cheaper priced too

$64 or $175? damn, thats a big leap
146 or 155

256 is way plenty of ram now a days... hee hee, not for long I bet...

BTW: I'm being a little oT today... Sorry
My main reason of posting was I wanted to know how high Mushkin can go... thanks

 

[snoogans]

I don't really care how high it goes...it's good quality, reliable, and stable. Less room for error the better.

 

[ElDiablo]

Smokin Toilet :

when/where did you get that RAM?? That sounds Like a kick ass deal.

 

[Sugadaddy]

I bought a piece in a group buy like 2 months ago, and I paid 156$ shipped... The price has really gone up, I'm glad I bought it. (should of gotten more, could of made some profit )

 

[jebus]

What's the current price? What benefit will I see if I use the mushkin over my kingston valueram pc100 with the duron overclocked? I've read how mushkin is so good.. but want to get some personal experiences from others. If lots of people say it's good, then count me in also! Thanks.

 

[SinfulWeeper]

<< What's the current price? What benefit will I see if I use the mushkin over my kingston valueram pc100 with the duron overclocked? I've read how >>



On their web page the current price is $194+S&amp;H. My guess is around the area of $208-$220 landed.

I suppose it will have no impact on your duron system since it is most likely at a different multiplier setting while the memory is close to the 100MHz factory setting. I never heard of a AMD chip getting the 133MHz memory speed, but I am sure they exist.

Try thinking of it this way. A PIII 667 is over twice as fast as a celeron 667 because of the FSB even though they are the same speed CPU. Increasing the FSB will always yeild more performance then changing the multiplier on everyday apps. (Here come the flames or arguements that this is not true, but I have a celeron 667 and PIII 667 side by side at the office, that alone is proof enough for me.)
If you were to manage getting the celeron 667 to a gig, it would still perform slower then a factory PIII 866 because of FSB limitations. However benchmarks will show different, that is how the old say comes along. &quot;lies, more lies, and benchmarks&quot;.

However, taking that celeron in the example above with memory running @ CAS 2-2-2 on a FSB of 100MHz, it will outperform that same PIII 667 by a great margin if the PIII has its memory running at 3-3-3 with the 160MHz FSB.
My Mushkin stick is running my personal PIII 600E @ 930MHz, and it stomps all over the gigs and 933's I have seen. I intend on seeing all my computers do this.

I also have a friends running Viking, Kingston, Micron/Crutial, and PNY. While their memory is good, it does not compare to mushkins, nor can it go as fast. So that mere 50MHz that Smokin Toilet is talking about equals more then he thinks.

Also everyone knows how Netscpae crashes all the time. After I switched to Rev2 memory, it crashes about 92% less often. All that time I thought it was poor programming code on their part instead of a hardware problem.

 

[jebus]

hm.. didn't understand all that. Can anyone reference a good web site that talks about all this memory stuff, ie what's CAS and how does that relate to system performance? Oh well, I guess if I can find the money, I will try it out. Is the current price $173+s&amp;h or $173 shipped? thanks.

... also is this the PC150 HSDRAM or the PC133 Rev.2 222 ram?


... just noticed mushkin's weekend special, 256mb 2pack 128mb high performance rev 1.5 for $277... is this a good deal?

 

[Noid]

What is the Mhz on these sticks? Are they 168 pin non-ECC @133Mhz?

If so let me know, I just bought a CUSL2 and I'm looking for mem.

 

[TC61]

Put me down for 2 sticks please.....

 

[SinfulWeeper]

noid, they are PC133 that can easily operate at PC150. The type I am getting us to group up on it non-ECC. They will have no problems operating on your CUSL2 at any speed your mobo has to offer.

TC61, you need to open up your profile and stay in contact if you want the two sticks.

Everyone who is in. I am going to set the planned purchase date for Sept. 28. So that means I have to have the money by then if this falls through.
However do not send the money until I can find out if I will enough buyers, I will keep everyone informed. There are only two more days and things are starting too look grim that this may fall through unless it is extended.

 

[TechKnight]

You can put me down for 2 sticks as well. Thanks!

Update:
Actually I'll be in for 4 sticks.

 

[Ferrari355]

Put me down for 2 sticks.

 

[SmokinToilet]

SinfulWeeper:

I didn't think much about the FSB &amp; CAS speeds, but yes, that is true, the faster the FSB is the faster your computer will be compared with the same MHZ rating. Since now a day the main boggle down is the traveling of data from the ram to the cpu since the cpu can do things so fast. Cache misses are what really slow down the cpus perfornance since is must wait millions of cycles (wasted noops) to get the data in from the ram/HD... So a measily 10-15 more in FSB speeds (if CPU+ ram+system can handle it) DOES matter.

Thanks, I didn't think much on FSB &amp; CAS speeds.

But, currently, in my specific case. I'll stay with what I have, can't really OC with non-OCing CPU


ElDiablo:

DEAD deal, 1-2 weeks ago, office max, 114-25 first time customer - 25 rebate


jebus:

CAS: ??? I don't know the initials, but it relates to th interval of waiting time to access/write to the ram, kinda like internet access latency, lets say your telneting some where and the connection is slow as heck, you don't see what you type after like a second err something. kinda screwss up your typing right, its like that, how quickly the ram will respone to the CPUs request for ram read or write...and with conputers down at the wires, I don't think that have buffers so access has to be immediate or within a few cycles

so each time the cpu needs to do a ram read/write, it needs to wait 2 cycles b4 it can do another read/write. BUT if your can can't handle that and needs to go 3 cycles, the CPU needs to wait 3 cycles b4 another read/write. if you need to do 5 accesses to ram, thats an added 5 cycles wasted if its stuck at cas3.

theres lots of things that make cps go fast.... so don't just think about 1 thing... it still needs everything overall to be fast... =)
I mean, I bought a super fast HD (IBM GXP75), but still only had 64 ram.... loading up UT games was hell, took a minute to load (thrashing!!!, somethings froz my comp), by the time I was in they would change to a new map!, my friend got a slow drive WD5400(not sayings its bad) and 128 megs, loaded up in 2 seconds! Because I didn't have enough ram, data was being thrown out. Most of the data was passed around at the RAM-HD level which is really really slow.... imagine if the maps were on cdrom
At that time I wasn't thinking. I still don't think that much...

BTW: Anybody, correct me if I'm wrong highly appriciated!

 

[Noid]

OK ,,, I'm in for 3 sticks ... Hope you get enough people ...

Let me know what I need to do .....

 

[cmyk]

SinfulWeeper, count me in for one stick.

 

[barebottoms]

SinfulWeeper:
Any chance of getting a 256MB module in the order?

 

[djohn]

Dang guys I am just going to tell all the guys to jump on this one. I don't want to compete, when I sold it at 165 I did so for very little profit. I paid shipping both ways and it cost me 158. I have no desire to compete with memory sales and I have to ask you SW, do you know what dealing with 17,000 + dollars worth of memory is like? Good luck man, it is very stressful I can tell you. I might just be in on a few sticks myself since I didn't actually get to keep any out of my own group buy of 50 sticks. I just can't run it through the business and take risks of actually loosing money. One thing to think of also is that the USPS priority for 3.20 does not include insurance. I get to pay for 2 sticks that have not shown up should they never surface because it was time for the PO to close and there wasn't enough time to fill out all that paperwork so I didn't worry about it. They were mailed I know that, but they have not arrived yet. If you have any questions man just ask me, I have done this several times so I have a few ideas from experience, 100 sticks is a heck of a bunch, 50 was the last one and it was too big.

 

[andrey]

I'm about to buy 512Mb in two sticks of 256Mb.
If 256MB ones are not availbe, I can do 3 x 128Mb = 384Mb. Let me know.

 

[SinfulWeeper]

barebottoms, if you want two 128MB sticks you can feel free to join. But otherwise I would have to recomend you buy direct from them or one of their resellers as I can offer no savings.

djohn, lol... I was just thinking about that. While I regularly deal with that kind of money at my dads business, it has never been anything as minuscule as memory chips. More along the lines of servers or computers.

andrey, we could do the 3*128MB, but as I am telling barebottoms, I can offer no savings on the 256MB sticks unless we all do a group buy for them instead. Being there are people intersted, I will look into that.

As it stands now, I am short on orders so we can all join djohns boat or I can extend the purchasing for another week. From the ammount of people in and purchasing it would have to be along the lines of $179. Not exactly what I had in mind as I thought more people would hop in.

I will be responding to all e-mails sent to me by everyone here shortly. I went to camp to tighty it up for winter, but didn't think I would be there for so long. Sorry for the delay on a response.

 

[SinfulWeeper]

ttt

 

[Madcowz]

BTW mushkin DON'T manufacter their own RAM. They get them from a distributor and in no way are they &quot;hand-picked&quot;... they are simply higher quality. If you can locate who mushkin buys their RAM from you can get it even at a much lower price. Consider this... Mushkin obviously get's their RAM from their distributor for less than 165 a piece and the discount you get from buying in bulk from a big distributor rather than the middle man is probably higher... My guess is that you could probably get them for as low as $150 if you buy enough.

BTW don't ask me who their distributor is b/c I have no clue. I assume you're an authorized reseller, so if you do happen to track them down you should have no problem buying from them.

 

[barebottoms]

Edit: Cancel. Djohn is doing the 256 megs'

 

[SinfulWeeper]

Thanks for letting me know .

ttt

 

[SinfulWeeper]

Madcowz, I pulled the memory from my computer and it has no markings other then some logo I never seen on any memory chip before. So the search continues...

 

[Darth Gator]

If I buy this ram through you, will I still get Mushkin's lifetime warranty? If so, I'm in for 2 sticks.