Another Xbone vs PS4 Thread (Very objective)

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MrPickins

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That's because the PS3 was a piece of shit hardware wise and that implementation had no direct GPU access, this generation they're basically full on PC's.

And if they went with a light Windows kernel they'd be opening up a huge library of DirectX games that even Sony wouldn't be able to match if they allowed Linux support on PS4, cause they'd be limited to games that utilized OpenGL.


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Which would lower the attach rate for the console, limiting potential profits for MS.
 

imagoon

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XBox one is already a multipurpose device. It has a web browser, can stream media, supports a keyboard and mouse (in games at least, I haven't looked for support in the base OS.)

It also uses DirectX and a Windows kernel under the hood. There would be no point for "Linux support" other than for the sub 1% at a forum like this that would think it is cool for some reason.
 

sze5003

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Due to the crazy sales and my stacking up of best buy gift cards I was able to get an Xbox one finally for a really good price. I like that I can stream anything to it with plex. If I had an hd receiver for cable I would have bought a kinnect as well.

The ps4 also has a web browser but I don't use it on either console much. The snap on and out feature is cool too. I mainly bought it for exclusives because I already have a bunch of ps4 games. But for the deal I got it for I couldn't pass it up.
 

Lil Frier

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If you are a huge PC gamer then you are in the same boat I am. Honestly the XBone is pretty redundant if you already PC game. I went with a PS4, though I will admit the game titles right now are very scarce but so is the One. But once games like Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Order 1886, Little Big Planet etc all come out those will never find their way to the PC. DR3, Ryse, Below, Titanfall and Fable Legends all are on PC too so I really saw no need. Sure there are a few exclusives on the One that didn't make it, but it seems like 80%+ are going to make it to PC eventually. PS4, there is 0% chance many of theirs will make it.

I don't agree with this. Personally, I am not a fan of the racing options on PC, when compared to any other genre. Forza is the cream of the crop, and that's on the Xbox. You can fill in the third-person action genres that Sony dominates pretty easily on PC.

If anything, Nintendo's the company to go with if you're about supplementing PC gaming with exclusives.
 

Bill Brasky

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I think over the life of the console, playstation will have better exclusives just like last gen (IMO), but right now it's the Xbox1 for sure. Ryse, Master Chief Colletion, Forza... Killzone was dud in my opinion. TLOU is really the only exclusive for PS4 that i was really excited about out right now.
 

sze5003

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I guess he meant between XBOX one and PS4. I would say it's the best game on either of them right now.

I still have to finish it and the dlc. Definitely one of my favorite games and I would not mind playing it a third time after a while has passed.
 

sze5003

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? What games? I haven't even heard that it supports mouse & keyboard.

I have a pc for that if I want to use mouse and keyboard. Sometimes with some titles I don't want to sit near a monitor and use a keyboard and mouse so using one with the console would just make me rearrange a bunch of crap in my living room. It's useful if you are doing streams and broadcasting from your console, but I wouldn't take that as a positive of the Xbox vs the ps4. I think ps4 also supports mouse and keyboard.
 
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I would have gone XBone due to Forza until I found out they were starting the micropayment crap to get more cars for a game I just paid $60 for.
 

Lil Frier

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I would have gone XBone due to Forza until I found out they were starting the micropayment crap to get more cars for a game I just paid $60 for.

Except they're had that for a while now. FM4 had it. The all-inclusive version of FM5 is also supposed to be on-sale for $25 at Target on Black Friday, so it's not THAT bad...more than a year after launch.

Realistically, every major release is pushing add-ons now. Shadow of Mordor, The Evil Within, Sunset Overdrive, Call of Duty, Forza, Assassin's Creed, they all have Season Pass content. It really sucks to put up with, but it is what it is. I've personally never bought any of that stuff, but with the way I was impressed with Shadow of Mordor and Sunset Overdrive, I might cave on those, if they don't both get a "Complete Edition" of some kind.
 

Lil Frier

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Prepare to quit playing most every game. Even Mario Kart 8 had paid DLC.

I don't get how it's so hard to just not buy DLC, but whatever.
 

cmdrdredd

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I buy some of it...depending what it is. There is never a requirement for it though. Even in MP games with map packs, you can still find a vanilla game to join.
 

nitromullet

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I just sold my Xbox 360, and after a lot of going back and forth between the two, I opted to replace it with an Xbox One.

The lack of no IR sensor on the console and no currently available remote control was a serious point against the PS4 for me. This was the main reason I didn't even consider a PS3 when deciding between last gen too.

I also prefer the feel of the Xbox controller. Granted, I'm sure I could get used to the DS4.

Some people have made this a point against the Xbox One, but I also prefer being able to use AA batteries. I have a set of Eneloops that I've owned for years, and I always have at least two charged batteries ready go. I already have to constantly charge my phone, I don't need to babysit my controller.

All of this being said, the PS4 is the undisputed more powerful machine. If I was only a console gamer I would probably go with the a PS4, and just deal with the inconveniences of not having a real remote and having to constantly charge the controller.

However, I am predominantly a PC gamer, and console graphics haven't impressed me in a long time, so I opted for what I felt would be the more convenient setup for me.

The Last of Us does look pretty awesome though, and I really did sort of want to play that, but I'm not going to buy a console for a single platform exclusive.

I also really like the fact that the PS4 doesn't have a power brick. I occasionally moved my Xbox 360 between my living room TV and my PC monitor, and not having the deal with the brick (or buy an extra one) would be nice.

...oh yeah, right now the Xbox One without the Kinect is cheaper, which doesn't hurt.
 

Mauldigger

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I have been reading the forums trying to decide on XB1 or PS4. I have a 360 currently.
At my age of 54, I do not play MP although I enjoy the Squads mode on Ghosts playing against the bots, and I have played all the single players on every COD game.

I don't use my console for anything other than playing games. I am not interested in social media like FB or Twitter, don't use Netflix, etc. I like to play games like Far Cry, Bioshock, Borderlands. I am leaning to the PS4 but still haven't decided for sure.

BTW the fastest internet available to me is 3.0 mbps dsl, although I have yet to reach that speed, more like 2.6 to 2.8.
 

Blanky

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I have been reading the forums trying to decide on XB1 or PS4. I have a 360 currently.
At my age of 54, I do not play MP although I enjoy the Squads mode on Ghosts playing against the bots, and I have played all the single players on every COD game.

I don't use my console for anything other than playing games. I am not interested in social media like FB or Twitter, don't use Netflix, etc. I like to play games like Far Cry, Bioshock, Borderlands. I am leaning to the PS4 but still haven't decided for sure.

BTW the fastest internet available to me is 3.0 mbps dsl, although I have yet to reach that speed, more like 2.6 to 2.8.
Honestly I'd say xbox one just now because it's a good bit cheaper (I own a ps4), but if you've not played the last of us you should get a ps4 just to throw that down. The game is that good.
 

sze5003

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I have been reading the forums trying to decide on XB1 or PS4. I have a 360 currently.
At my age of 54, I do not play MP although I enjoy the Squads mode on Ghosts playing against the bots, and I have played all the single players on every COD game.

I don't use my console for anything other than playing games. I am not interested in social media like FB or Twitter, don't use Netflix, etc. I like to play games like Far Cry, Bioshock, Borderlands. I am leaning to the PS4 but still haven't decided for sure.

BTW the fastest internet available to me is 3.0 mbps dsl, although I have yet to reach that speed, more like 2.6 to 2.8.

Since you don't play multiplayer and you want to save money get an Xbox soon because of the price drop and deals all around. I have both systems and I like them for their own reasons and exclusive titles.

I think you would enjoy the last of us. See if there are any black Friday deals for a ps4. The ps4 version of last of us also has the dlc addition. Aside from exclusives both consoles are decent. It's up to you but if you want best bang for the buck Xbox right now will do that.
 

TeknoBug

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FFXIV certainly does. The base OS supports the keyboard for passwords and messaging.
Yeah I know you can use it for messages.

Except they're had that for a while now. FM4 had it.
I loved FM2 & FM3, FM4 put me off a little because of the DLC car packs, and FM5 definitely put me off because of the lack of tracks and over 50% of available cars are DLC.

I've never bought any DLC no matter what game.
Man the last DLC I bought was Vietnam for Bad Company 2.

I just sold my Xbox 360, and after a lot of going back and forth between the two, I opted to replace it with an Xbox One.

The lack of no IR sensor on the console and no currently available remote control was a serious point against the PS4 for me. This was the main reason I didn't even consider a PS3 when deciding between last gen too.
How new is your TV, you won't need a remote for the PS4 if your TV has device link, enable HDMI device link and set the TV to device control and there you have it- I do it with my TV. That's one thing the XB1 doesn't have, it requires an IR to work with the TV remote while the PS4 can just be used through HDMI device control.

Honestly I'd say xbox one just now because it's a good bit cheaper (I own a ps4), but if you've not played the last of us you should get a ps4 just to throw that down. The game is that good.
I agree, TLOU is a sweet game.
 
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Lil Frier

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I didn't even know about the FM4 pass until the game was in my possession. I was similarly eaten up about the content lacking in FM5 but as it was part of my graduation gift (and thus, not my money), I wasn't as bothered about getting the game. I then sold it for $35 or so and re-bought it for $20, which then got traded in for about $20 itself. Now, Best Buy is going to have the "Racing Game of the Year Edition" for $25 on Black Friday, which means $20 with GCU, so I'll replace the stock copy with the game and the DLC for the same price.

The Best Buy Black Friday ad is so delicious. I NEED IT.
 

nitromullet

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How new is your TV, you won't need a remote for the PS4 if your TV has device link, enable HDMI device link and set the TV to device control and there you have it- I do it with my TV. That's one thing the XB1 doesn't have, it requires an IR to work with the TV remote while the PS4 can just be used through HDMI device control.

Yeah, I've read about this. My TV is way too old for that, plus as I understand it, functionality is limited and inconsistent with different TV's.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/21/5126628/ps4-remote-control-hdmi-cec-tv-sony-samsung-panasonic

I use a Harmony remote that I've had for years, and it's one of the best purchases for my living room I ever made. It sounds like with a little tweaking the Xbox One will work just fine with it. http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Harmony-Remotes/Update-Harmony-and-Microsoft-Xbox-One/td-p/1135553
 
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