[ANSWERED ]Should I Get a powerful notebook for college, or ...

RESmonkey

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If I were to get a notebook only, it would end up costing $1800ish w/ tax. (T9300, RAM from NewEgg, probably a Thinkpad T61p).

Is it a better idea to just spend $300ish on notebook , and build a decent desktop?

Details:
-Electrical/Computer Engineering major
-Need financing options (pay x amount per month, cannot buy all at once)

Thanks, all. I decided to get a cheapo lappy and build a rig
 

themisfit610

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I think you should definitely get a cheap laptop (what are you going to do on it - take notes? , and spend the rest on a desktop. Heck - there's lots of good used laptops out there. Think Pentium M - Centrino platform.

~MiSfit
 

DaveSimmons

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Get something like an MSI Wind, Dell E, Asus eee then put together a desktop.

Even at $1,800-2,000 with laptops you're maybe getting a $90 desktop video card (cut-down 8800). With $400 laptop and $1400 desktop you could get an ATI 4870 and game at 1900x1200 instead of 1280x1024.
 

ther00kie16

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There are some Refurb Dell Latitude D400 12.1" with Pentium-M for $300ish.
You can also wait in line for 20+hrs at Best Buy on Thanksgiving Day for a $200 Toshiba that's pretty nice for your basic office tasks.
But yea, working on a desktop just feels much better and natural with certain apps. And if you are in engineering, you probably want more than a 15" laptop screen.
 

nerp

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Laptop + college = stolen.

Buy a dirt cheap laptop for note taking and use the desktop for everything else. Losing all your work mid-semester because of a fall or robbery isn't fun.
 

Devcon

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I feel that I made a big mistake in college. I was excited to have the opportunity to buy a new computer, and I figured that a laptop would be a great choice. Hind sight is 20/20 and now i know it was a bad decision. I blew 3000, yes 3000 bucks on my laptop. I am actually still using said laptop, but of course, at this point it is pretty slow. Throughout my 4 years in college, I may have taken it out of my room twice. There was absolutely no practical reason for me to have a laptop. So yes, if you really think you need a laptop, buy a small cheap one and a desktop. But, I would wait until you get to school before you even buy the laptop. You might find that you don't want to be bothered with carrying it around and taking notes the old fashion way works fine.

So, buy a desktop this summer but wait on the laptop until your are sure you will need it.
 

JackMDS

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Originally posted by: Devcon
So, buy a desktop this summer but wait on the laptop until your are sure you will need it.

:thumbsup:

 

Rockinacoustic

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I have both, and to be honest I rarely take my notebook outside my room. However, it's very handy to have when you want to go study somewhere and review lectures, and while I'm at work it is nice to have instead of having to use a university PC's.

Some considerations to make: Does your college offer wireless in the dorms? That might be a nice thing to take advantage of. Also, it might be nice to have a laptop to bring to class so you can code along with the professor; I rarely did, but it's an option.

If you plan on gaming and/or have huge amounts of music or photo files, then get a decent dual-core laptop form dell for $400-500, and leave the rest for a Desktop. If you feel you can store your life on a laptop, then do that (and maybe an external HDD). The only complaints I have with having both is the extra trips I have to make to the car at the end of each semester.
 

DarkRogue

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Originally posted by: Devcon
Throughout my 4 years in college, I may have taken it out of my room twice.

So, buy a desktop this summer but wait on the laptop until your are sure you will need it.

Very true, and I can relate.
I bought a laptop when I got into college thinking 'oh man I'll probably definitely need one, getting into computer science and all..' but I brought along my desktop anyway to game with.

I walked into class.. there were only THREE other people who brought laptops. I ended up leaving it in my room most of the time because the notes were, for the most part, already printed out and handed to us. So I'd suggest the same thing: wait until you know you need it before buying one. About the only time I truly needed it was for one group project where everyone wanted to meet elsewhere to type it up.

Edit:
All these years and I still can't type 'the'...
 

RebateMonger

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No matter what you decide, please be sure to set up a backup system of some sort for important files. Don't be another student coming here for advice on how to recover the term paper you spent weeks preparing and your only hard drive failed. Thanks!
 

Winterpool

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RESmonkey, it's really all about context here.

As others have pointed out, your decision will be powerfully affected by factors eg the 802.11 networks at the university, the availability and quality of public computing facilities, the local mores regarding notebooks in the classroom, and -- perhaps most important -- the social environment. Some students spend a great deal of time in the campus centre, libraries, and local cafes (this is certainly true of classic university towns, eg Boston) -- though if you'll indulge my lazy stereotypes for a moment, I'd guess that most of the latte-swilling glowing-MacBook users are reading Arts / Social Sciences subjects, not future engineers. Another important social factor: will you be able to endure your roommates?

If you're going to be doing a lot of graphical work (and I know nothing of what your engineering course would require), a big qualite monitor might prove an immense boost to your productivity. And even a 17-inch notebook screen can't compare to a 24-inch desktop display (these days you can buy a decent Dell PVA-panel 2408WFP for about $550 on sale).

From my own experience, having spent far too many years as an undergraduate and now working for a university's computing services, I'd say most students with a circa $2000 budget would be best served by a good desktop computer (that could double as an entertainment centre) and a $300 to $500 notebook (whether 'netbook' or budget Dell). This is presuming that 'work' on a typical student's notebook is limited to web-surfing, email, and some word-processing.

On the other hand, most of my peers (bourgeois, elite uni overachievers) are wedded to their Apple notebooks. There's a photo I found linked on, I believe, an Ars Technica forum that shows a Princeton lecture hall blazing with luminous Apple logos. Even if university is supposed to be a time and place to 'find yourself', peer pressure can be no less powerful there than in secondary school. Do you really want to stay shut up in your rooms, labouring away at your desktop machine? Oh, wait, you're an engineer...
 

kirilus

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never needed a laptop in college, I built 2 pcs instead... and I distinctly remember being annoyed by people constantly tapping their keyboards in some of the classes. Anyway, what are you planning to do with a laptop?
 

Winterpool

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By the way, some courses require notebook computers, and often they dictate the specs (if not the model). You may want to learn if your engineering programme requires anything of the sort.
 

RESmonkey

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I don't want an Eeepc or other subnotebook, I prefer budget laptop (DELL? ~$300 or $400)

Engineering computer requirements:
http://www.engr.uiuc.edu/stude...ospective/computer.php

Do those Dell budget/cheapo laptops last 3-4 years? Like, they won't easily die on me, right?

edit = But would I get budgeting/financing options like paying monthly from NewEgg? I can't afford to just buy all the PC parts for the build right now.
 

themisfit610

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It's hard to say how long a laptop will last. It's usually a function of how much you use it, how much you move around, and how careful you are with it. Common parts to fail on a laptop:

Battery - especially when you leave it plugged in _all_ the time rofl

Keyboard - loosing a key here and there isn't uncommon

Power jack - if you move your laptop a lot, it's easy to apply excessive leverage and break the fragile power jack inside the laptop. A friend of mine used to make a fortune fixing these..

Screen / Backlight / Inverter - (in descending order of expense) This one sucks, for sure. The inverter board converts the battery's DC current into high voltage AC to run the backlight, which illuminates the screen. The inverter boards (particularly their tiny connections) are fragile and tend to break / burn out easily. Replacing them is cheap and easy - provided you know where yours is, and how to replace it

Cooling - If you use your laptop in bed a lot, or in other linty / dusty places, you're going to clog the cooling system. Just about every single laptop I've ever worked on had its cooling system at least somewhat restricted by dust bunnies of doom. This will (over time) cause the fans to run at full-tilt, even at idle, random overheat / thermal shutdown, and possibly processor / motherboard damage. The solution? Spray out the heatsink / fans with a can of compressed air once a month or so. Better yet, some laptops have access panels on the bottom that reveal the entire cooling system, for easy disassembly / cleaning (preferably with Q-tips and alcohol). Toshiba gets kudos in this department. On that note, everything else about Toshiba is usually quite dreadful. Their driver page is _not_ worth a dime, and their parts are difficult, if not impossible to track down - to say nothing of their typically hideous cost.

If you're careful with your laptop, take good care of it, and keep up with cleaning - it will last a very long time. A friend of mind has a Dell Latitude C610 that she bought in 2003. It still looks brand new, everything works perfectly, and with a gig of RAM and a Pentium M it handles daily tasks on Windows XP without any complaints. That's 5 years of dedicated service, without any hardware related problems.

I would stay away from retailer financing. It's usually much better to take out a loan at a credit union or even just use a credit card. There are often too many strings attached to financing when it comes from the people selling you the products

~MiSfit
 

RESmonkey

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So it is better to finance w/ credit card, thereby making NewEgg just as equal as Dell or Lenovo in terms of financing?

Also, I configured a build on Newegg. Please rate it and tell me what I'm missing (screws? fan? This is the first time I'm building without a barebones kit! ).

http://img170.imageshack.us/im...resmonkeybuild1bc4.jpg

Budget ~ $1000. I don't "game" so I can wait for a better deal on vid card (but $199 for HD 4850 seems like a bargain).

All I have to build is a philips screwdriver and a flathead. No magnetic strap (I hear you don't need one), no nothing. So let me know, please


Thanks
 

s44

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Get a better PSU. Corsair 550/650 or so.

The Xigmatek cooler is probably worth the extra little $ if you're going to OC.
 

RESmonkey

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Originally posted by: s44
Get a better PSU. Corsair 550/650 or so.

The Xigmatek cooler is probably worth the extra little $ if you're going to OC.

Which Xigmatek?
 

ther00kie16

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For a single video card, Corsair 450 should be plenty or the Antec Earthwatts 430W for $30 after rebate.
 
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