Antartica gone nuts again

[Czar]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20020521_1659.html

third huge chunk this year, getting scary:Q

 

[shiner]

Scary how? Global warming you say? Seemed you missed a key part of the article if you think that.

However, new measurements indicate the ice in parts of Antarctica is thickening, reversing earlier estimates that the sheet was melting.

Scientists reported in January that new flow measurements for the Ross ice streams indicate some of their movement has slowed or halted, allowing the ice to thicken. Researchers don't know if the thickening is merely part of some short-term fluctuation or represents a reversal of the ice's long retreat.

That report, in the journal Science, came less than a week after a paper in Nature reported that Antarctica's harsh desert valleys long considered a bellwether for global climate change have grown noticeably cooler since the mid-1980s.

 

[Czar]

why scary?, three chunks so far this year that are huge, hasnt happened this fast in recent years
why global warming?, did I say anything about global warming

 

[vi edit]

An iceberg the size of Delaware isn't anything to scoff at. :Q

 

[shiner]

why global warming?, did I say anything about global warming

No but that's what you were implying.

Scary? Only in the same way that nature is scary in all kinds of ways. Tornadoes, earthquakes, hurricanes, volcanoes, are scary and all natural just like the ice breaking away.

 

[Czar]

global warming? why was I implying that? regardless of global warming this news is scary no matter what you think, so why do you draw to the conclusion that I was talking about global warming when I did not mention that and hadnt even thought about it in this case, why do you think I think like you think I think?

 

[vi edit]

No but that's what you were implying.

Wow so you're a mind reader now.

 

[SWirth86]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
An iceberg the size of Delaware isn't anything to scoff at. :Q

What you say? Is that a country or something?

 

[shiner]

Just an assumpiton since you seem to come down on the side of the global warming folks. Do you think I think you think like you think I think you think I think?

 

[PCHO]

Wow, the size of Delaware? That is a little unnerving. What types of dangers can an iceberg like that present? (aside from the obvious danger to moving ships)

 

[shiner]

Wow so you're a mind reader now.

Yes. Now stop thinking about Red Dawn in that way. It's unholy.

 

[Czar]

why do you assume so much? it seems to be that in every argument we have you are always assuming what I think and building your arguments around some steriotype, why not stop and ask before you jump to a conclusion about what other people think?

 

[hardass]

i think its scary, cause when they start to break, it means they are probably melting. When the coastline starts rising, start getting scared

 

[Kilgor]

i think its scary, cause when they start to break, it means they are probably melting. When the coastline starts rising, start getting scared

I don?t think it?s scary, I don?t live on the coast or go boating in the Antarctic.

No but that's what you were implying.

Maybe he?s scared his part of Iceland will get hit or his whole Country will break away and start floating around the World.

 

[MacBaine]

i think its scary, cause when they start to break, it means they are probably melting. When the coastline starts rising, start getting scared

Considering ice expands when it freezes, these icebergs melting wouldn't raise the water level at all for the most part.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

i think its scary, cause when they start to break, it means they are probably melting. When the coastline starts rising, start getting scared

Considering ice expands when it freezes, these icebergs melting wouldn't raise the water level at all for the most part.

Ya, we were having a discussion about that in the Noah thread.

 

[XZeroII]

What is actually happening is that the ice is expanding and thus cracking and breaking off. Ice cracks all the time and that's all that's happening except in this instance the ice is floating away. It's just standard expansion and contraction. None of this global warming junk

 

[BatmanNate]

The globe goes through periodic phases of hot and cold weather, one should be no less worried about a global ice age than global warming, but it's a natural process none the less. Simply because an event is natural doesn't imply that it shouldn't be feared, I'm plenty afraid of earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, and other natural happenings that threaten me. Needless to say, a chunk of ice the size of Delaware floating around is a tad unnerving.

<Wayne's World>

We're in DELAWARE....

</Wayne's World>

 

[rgwalt]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

i think its scary, cause when they start to break, it means they are probably melting. When the coastline starts rising, start getting scared

Considering ice expands when it freezes, these icebergs melting wouldn't raise the water level at all for the most part.

Salt water contracts when it freezes. Also, much of the antarctic ice sheet is on land, not under water. Sorry buddy.

I think the biggest danger regarding this chunk of ice is if it floats into a continent near a populated area.

Ryan

 

[Kilgor]

I think the biggest danger regarding this chunk of ice is if it floats into a continent near a populated area.

What kind of danger would that pose? Like they wouldn?t see it coming, it would be like running away from a turtle. Most likely it would just run aground somewhere offshore.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: rgwalt

Originally posted by: MacBaine

i think its scary, cause when they start to break, it means they are probably melting. When the coastline starts rising, start getting scared

Considering ice expands when it freezes, these icebergs melting wouldn't raise the water level at all for the most part.

Salt water contracts when it freezes. Also, much of the antarctic ice sheet is on land, not under water. Sorry buddy.

I think the biggest danger regarding this chunk of ice is if it floats into a continent near a populated area.

Ryan

Ahhh geez.... here we go again...

If salt water contracted when it freezes that means the ice wouldn't be floating since its denser than the liquid form. But it floats!!

If the ice on the land were melting at an astronomical rate, wouldn't that mean there would be rivers forming at the poles otherwise it wouldn't be adding much to the amount of water in the oceans?

EDIT: Brain freeze today

 

[silverpig]

Why is it so scary? Seems right on pace from what I read from that article. They started keeping records of the bergs in 1976. They name the bergs by quadrant, and then order. The names of the 3 in that article are D-17, C-19, and B-22. It has been 26 years since they began keeping records. Judging by the number of bergs that have broken off per quadrant since 1976, it seems as though just less than 1 per year per quadrant breaks off. Also, you must take into account the fact that Antarctica is being watched much more closely now than in the early 80's, so we may have missed some back then, where we might pick them up now. Doesn't seem too far off to me...

 

[shiner]

why do you assume so much? it seems to be that in every argument we have you are always assuming what I think and building your arguments around some steriotype

Not basing it on a stereotype at all. Basing it on your past comments, and what I know from observing you. If I'm wrong in my assumption then I apologize. Ok, let's stop pissing at each other. At least in this thread.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

why do you assume so much? it seems to be that in every argument we have you are always assuming what I think and building your arguments around some steriotype

Not basing it on a stereotype at all. Basing it on your past comments, and what I know from observing you. If I'm wrong in my assumption then I apologize. Ok, let's stop pissing at each other. At least in this thread.

no prob

 

[rahvin]

Salt water contracts when it freezes.

Better hurry up and tell the universe because it's violating your personal law of physics. Not only that you better tell the water molecue because it's sure got the wrong shape for that.