Antec Earthwatts 430 caught on fire and fried my PC!!

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oatmealstorm

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Dec 17, 2009
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Can we seriously get off the antec/corsair/obnoxiously-advertised-expensive PSU company's peens?

These things can fail and yes they can be responsible. We need to keep an objective eye and so they do not neglect to improve their products.

By sucking up to these guys blindly like so many of you do here, it only screws the consumers.
 

Meghan54

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Oct 18, 2009
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Can we seriously get off the antec/corsair/obnoxiously-advertised-expensive PSU company's peens?

These things can fail and yes they can be responsible. We need to keep an objective eye and so they do not neglect to improve their products.

By sucking up to these guys blindly like so many of you do here, it only screws the consumers.


Sorry someone shoved a sand covered rod up your bum today, but first, if current power supplies were so obnoxiously overpriced, they wouldn't sell. Sorry you cannot afford quality but that's life.

Second, the power supply in question in this thread did not fail. True, there are failures with power supplies just like with any product/item/thing made by humans, but the "obnoxiously expensive" Antecs and Corsairs have a history of very few failures with most failing in an unspectacular fashion, such as DOA. But those cases are rare as Antec's and Corsair's OEMs (Delta, CWT, and Seasonic) are among the better if not best OEMs to source product from.

Third, no one is sucking up to any seller/manufacturer here. Rather, people are just acknowledging the overall quality of the aforementioned power supply sellers, pure and simple.

And as for keeping any eye on them, I'd not worry. Just as with anything, if quality suddenly nosedives, the internet will be abuzz with horror stories, but with the two companies you mentioned....Antec and Corsair....both have proven time and again to be very consumer proactive and very vigilant as to the quality of the product they sell.

Now go back to your boyfriend and ask him to use K-Y next time. It'll help your disposition.
 

Engineer

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Oct 9, 1999
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Sorry someone shoved a sand covered rod up your bum today, but first, if current power supplies were so obnoxiously overpriced, they wouldn't sell. Sorry you cannot afford quality but that's life.

Second, the power supply in question in this thread did not fail. True, there are failures with power supplies just like with any product/item/thing made by humans, but the "obnoxiously expensive" Antecs and Corsairs have a history of very few failures with most failing in an unspectacular fashion, such as DOA. But those cases are rare as Antec's and Corsair's OEMs (Delta, CWT, and Seasonic) are among the better if not best OEMs to source product from.

Third, no one is sucking up to any seller/manufacturer here. Rather, people are just acknowledging the overall quality of the aforementioned power supply sellers, pure and simple.

And as for keeping any eye on them, I'd not worry. Just as with anything, if quality suddenly nosedives, the internet will be abuzz with horror stories, but with the two companies you mentioned....Antec and Corsair....both have proven time and again to be very consumer proactive and very vigilant as to the quality of the product they sell.

Now go back to your boyfriend and ask him to use K-Y next time. It'll help your disposition.


I am Engineer...and I approve this message! :biggrin:

(thanks for stating how I feel after reading through this thread)
 

oatmealstorm

Junior Member
Dec 17, 2009
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Sorry someone shoved a sand covered rod up your bum today, but first, if current power supplies were so obnoxiously overpriced, they wouldn't sell. Sorry you cannot afford quality but that's life.


Second, the power supply in question in this thread did not fail. True, there are failures with power supplies just like with any product/item/thing made by humans, but the "obnoxiously expensive" Antecs and Corsairs have a history of very few failures with most failing in an unspectacular fashion, such as DOA. But those cases are rare as Antec's and Corsair's OEMs (Delta, CWT, and Seasonic) are among the better if not best OEMs to source product from.

Third, no one is sucking up to any seller/manufacturer here. Rather, people are just acknowledging the overall quality of the aforementioned power supply sellers, pure and simple.

And as for keeping any eye on them, I'd not worry. Just as with anything, if quality suddenly nosedives, the internet will be abuzz with horror stories, but with the two companies you mentioned....Antec and Corsair....both have proven time and again to be very consumer proactive and very vigilant as to the quality of the product they sell.

Now go back to your boyfriend and ask him to use K-Y next time. It'll help your disposition.

I'm too lazy to respond to garbage, but ill give u this. You use way too many big words just to sound smart; which you are not. Don't kid yourself.
It seems you're the one that lacks experience with boyfriends.

I'm a straight guy. And yes, you are sucking up by defending your overpriced PSU's. You are just thick to understand and obviously like to litter pathetic little attempts at rebutting with misquotes, bad grammar, and badly used big and boring words.

Have a nice day. Better yet, go read a book.
 

oatmealstorm

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I am Engineer...and I approve this message! :biggrin:

(thanks for stating how I feel after reading through this thread)

Of course you approve that. You're probably an engineer for Antec. Or, you approve because Meghan is a girl's name.
 

Engineer

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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I'm too lazy to respond to garbage, but ill give u this. You use way too many big words just to sound smart; which you are not. Don't kid yourself.
It seems you're the one that lacks experience with boyfriends.

I'm a straight guy. And yes, you are sucking up by defending your overpriced PSU's. You are just thick to understand and obviously like to litter pathetic little attempts at rebutting with misquotes, bad grammar, and badly used big and boring words.

Have a nice day. Better yet, go read a book.

Overpriced? I paid $15 for an Antec EarthWatts 430 (Delta built) and that was NEW (and I'm not the only one as it was posted on several hot deals sites). Is $15 overpriced? That doesn't even go to mention the two or three 380W Earthwatts (all Seasonic built) that I paid between $18 and $24 for during the year before buying the 430. Finally, how does $20 and $24 sound for 400W Corsair units? That is what I paid for the two 400W units that I've bought in the last year and a half. Overpriced? Hardly!


You try to rip his/her response to you but give nothing in substance in doing so. Heh...
 
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Stefan Payne

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There isn't much profit in selling PSU, everyone competes with price, so every decent Unit costs about the same!!

There are 500W Units out there, wich are dramatically cheaper, but mostly they blow up, if you try to pull 500W out of them or the efficiency is bad or other things...

For example, the 550W Cougar CM (a HEC550TE with cable managment) costs here about 84€, the COugar-S with 550W costs ~107€, the 550W Cougar Power costs about 76€, an Arctic Fusion costs only 46€. A 600W Tagan Superrock is btw about
And the 550W HEC Altis is about 30€
Why is that?

Well basically the Arctic Fusion is NOT a 550W Unit, it's peak rated, it has shorter cables and it has cheaper components in it (ie cheaper Capacitors, just 85°C primary cap, secondaries are Ostors)...

And the Cougar-S 550??

Well first it's 80+ Silver, has VRMs for the minor rails, is 180mm short, has some polymer caps for the secondary and so on (the 700W Version got testet @ JG.com).

What does that tell?!
If a PSU is cheaper, than it's cheaper for a reson and the components inside are cheaper.
The HEC Altis is a good example for a really cheap unit.
It has only passive PFC, is peak rated and so on...
 

Tsavo

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Sep 29, 2009
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Hell, my name is Tsavo and I own an obnoxiously perfectly priced power supply.
 

gaidensensei

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I am running an Antec 430 EW, bought in March of 2008 for $50 at newegg (see link), and used since then on a Q6600, 8800GTS G92, powered random misc system components and has yet to give me any problems yet. It's been nearing two years to date.
 

SparkyJJO

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May 16, 2002
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Can we seriously get off the antec/corsair/obnoxiously-advertised-expensive PSU company's peens?

These things can fail and yes they can be responsible. We need to keep an objective eye and so they do not neglect to improve their products.

By sucking up to these guys blindly like so many of you do here, it only screws the consumers.



I'm too lazy to respond to garbage, but ill give u this. You use way too many big words just to sound smart; which you are not. Don't kid yourself.
It seems you're the one that lacks experience with boyfriends.

I'm a straight guy. And yes, you are sucking up by defending your overpriced PSU's. You are just thick to understand and obviously like to litter pathetic little attempts at rebutting with misquotes, bad grammar, and badly used big and boring words.

Have a nice day. Better yet, go read a book.

Sounds like you are doing nothing but trolling the thread. You have contributed nothing useful. So what PSU do you recommend? Powmax?
 

v8envy

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If power supplies weren't a critically important part of any enthusiast build, why have a subforum for them?

The "obnoxiously overpriced" vendors made their names during the dark times of 300 watt-on-a-good-day-in-a-meat-locker PSUs were marketed as 600+ watt units to "bargain hunters" like yourself. Video card vendors adjusted by recommending absolutely ridiculous PSU ratings in hopes that a "500 watt" PSU will provide 350 watts reliably.

Are you willing to research every model of every PSU before buying? If not, reliance on brand reputation is the next best thing.
 

Zebo

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I'm sure Antecs are ok today but JG still ranks them lower in general than Corsair and SS, mainly dinking them on value. I tend to warn people about antec after not one but two PSU's in "Sonata Designer 500" failed - great case, antec makes the best cases IMO, but something was rotten with those PSUs. Guy at Frys told me they to many coming back so they were sending whole lot back to Antec. Another time a couple years prior I had an Antec start smoking in one of those old chemeng cases that put Antec on the map. Bottom line Antec issues come up more, everyone who observes these forums knows it. Perhaps they are most popular so it stands to reason the issues would be more numerous, but I'll never trust them after my issues.

OATMEALSTORM - The PSU is highly important to overclockers and if you don't want issues which can damage your hardware. You don't have to go hog wild but ~ $100 to protect and power a $1000 investment is probably wise. Overclocking it's a must as I've been burned too many times trying to go cheap.

Seasonic is my huckleberry. They don't get much love here but I have one 7 years old on 24/7 still powering my file server.
 
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PsiStar

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It would have been good to see the top side of the video card.

Anyway, not all electronic failures are opens ... clearly some components fail as shorts.

This is yet another way to de-lint the system
 
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