Anthony Weiner's wiener

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MADDOW: Is it possible that this started out as a private photo of yours that ended up in the public domain accidentally or at least in a way that you didn't intend?

WEINER: Well, it, it could, it could be or it could have been a photograph that was, that's taken out of context or manipulated or changed in some way. So maybe it did, it did, or maybe it's, it's a photograph that, that was dropped into an account from, from somewhere else. It, I mean, I can't say, I don't want to cast this net wider by saying it's someone else, so I'm going to say that, that, that I can't say with certitude it's me or it's not.
 

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Yup, looks like he might be lying to cover up a simple mistake. A tweet instead of an IM perhaps. What a massive waste of time. Idiots.
 

werepossum

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Occam called.

He would appreciate it if, within the self-same thread that you invoke the elegance of his razor, you didn't then immediately turn around and use Hysterical Harry's Hacksaw instead.
Duly noted. Still, you can't possibly believe his reason for hiring a private investigator rather than having an FBI investigation is to save the government money.

Because he would be a hypocrite (being married to a woman) if he sent it to a man. See: Larry Craig

Sux to be dense like
you, huh?

Nuff said.
So a married man would be a hypocrite for sending a snap of his junk to a man but not to another woman? Seriously? My bad, obviously I mistook "forsaking all homos" to be "forsaking all others".
 

werepossum

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Dude needs to quit talking and let an investigation take place.
Why on Earth would he want that? It's obviously his picture, and he's already had other embarrassing things come out, like his correspondence with a porn starlet. An official investigation is not to his advantage, and frankly you'd be hard pressed to come up with a pressing public interest for one if he doesn't request it.

He should have laughed it off, claimed he mis-sent a photo intended for his wife as a joke, and apologized to the young lady who received it. (Or was pointed out as having received it, which isn't exactly the same thing.)
 

Perknose

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Duly noted. Still, you can't possibly believe his reason for hiring a private investigator rather than having an FBI investigation is to save the government money.

I sure don't, that's obvious BS on his part.

None of us (yet) know the whole story, and most likely we never will, but my guess is that he doesn't want the potentially embarrassing details of other things he's said in private to be leaked from any investigation -- like the time he told Hilary that Newt was "a giant poopy head."

More to the point, I'm guessing that he doesn't want it to officially come out that his "poking penis in a poke" pic, while probably not sent to any female by him, was indeed his.

People would eternally ask him WHY? Why did you take it? Why did you upload it to the web? Who was holding the camera?

What good answer could he possibly give? Barney Frank double-dared me? Such a graphic and uncomfortably unanswerable question like that would be used against him the entire rest of his career.

Of course, his fears about leaks from any investigation are entirely ungrounded. Leaks in Washington? Unpossible!

One thing's for sure, if someone hacked his account and did this, they got him good!
 

Ape

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MADDOW: Is it possible that this started out as a private photo of yours that ended up in the public domain accidentally or at least in a way that you didn't intend?

WEINER: Well, it, it could, it could be or it could have been a photograph that was, that's taken out of context or manipulated or changed in some way. So maybe it did, it did, or maybe it's, it's a photograph that, that was dropped into an account from, from somewhere else. It, I mean, I can't say, I don't want to cast this net wider by saying it's someone else, so I'm going to say that, that, that I can't say with certitude it's me or it's not.

The dude is a goldmine of stupidy. lol

stfu, you don't know me and you can't claim to by a couple of tongue in cheek posts which may not have shown the best taste or choice of words.

You can back pedal all you want, doesn't change the fact of what you said and how you horribly tried to justify it.
 

senseamp

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He should just quit talking about it and move on to doing actual stuff he's elected to do.
 

Fern

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Why would he have a pic of his johnson to begin with? Who the fuck takes pictures of their penis?

Yeah.

The only possible reason I can think is taking a picture to send it to someone. And sending a picture of your pecker is creepy, at least in imo anyway.

Fern
 

manimal

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Yeah.

The only possible reason I can think is taking a picture to send it to someone. And sending a picture of your pecker is creepy, at least in imo anyway.

Fern

what you never sent your wife/husband a racy picture?


boring
 

Fern

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Occam's Razor suggests that Wiener accidentally sent it, but there are certainly very plausible alternate explanations for the occurrence and his subsequent behavior.

Yeah, I suspect he intended to sent it, just not to her.

The fact he cannot confirm the picture is NOT him strongly suggests, at the least, he has pictures of himself like that. If you do not have pictures of your pecker their can be no possibility whatsoever that one it could be one. And as I said above, the likely use for that is to send it to someone.

BTW: Agree 100% with your remarks about his obvious lack of any enthusiasm for an official investigation.

One other thing - to those who've been arguing about the term "hacked", I think we can safely assume Weiner is no techie. Thus, he's using the term as any layman would would. Furthermore he's also variously described it as "pranked" and "punked". Someone from his office or household may have sent it. Has he fired anyone recently?

Fern
 

werepossum

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I sure don't, that's obvious BS on his part.

None of us (yet) know the whole story, and most likely we never will, but my guess is that he doesn't want the potentially embarrassing details of other things he's said in private to be leaked from any investigation -- like the time he told Hilary that Newt was "a giant poopy head."

More to the point, I'm guessing that he doesn't want it to officially come out that his "poking penis in a poke" pic, while probably not sent to any female by him, was indeed his.

People would eternally ask him WHY? Why did you take it? Why did you upload it to the web? Who was holding the camera?

What good answer could he possibly give? Barney Frank double-dared me? Such a graphic and uncomfortably unanswerable question like that would be used against him the entire rest of his career.

Of course, his fears about leaks from any investigation are entirely ungrounded. Leaks in Washington? Unpossible!

One thing's for sure, if someone hacked his account and did this, they got him good!
They got him good only because he's handled it so badly. He should have said "Yeah, that's me. I took that picture to send to John Boehner. 'Cause I think he's a DICK." Then it's just a rude political trick a la Rahmbo, no big deal.
 

Fern

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what you never sent your wife/husband a racy picture?


boring

Nope.

Never would consider it either.

Anyway, no reason for such a thing, we live AND work together. Could just walk over and show them the real thing.

Fern
 

dali71

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This guy sums it up nicely:

The evidence is clear: Weiner sent the tweet

Without further ado, here's the evidence that makes the case clear.

1) Weiner's comments that he cannot say "with certitude" that the photo is of him.

This was the admission that first started to give him away. The very fact that he has penis photos of himself on his computer (or elsewhere on the Internet) that can be "manipulated," as he suggests, proves he has history of engaging in this kind of behavior. This was the first truly bad decision Weiner made in covering this up. By trying to weave into his lie a "half truth," the lie started to unravel.

2) His admission that he does all his own tweeting.

This eliminated his staff from the incident. The comment narrowed down the potential suspects to himself and some mysterious, unknown hacker -- who appears less and less likely to actually exist.

3) His downplaying of the incident.

Since the alleged hack, Weiner has consistently tried to play down the tweet. He's called it a "prank," said someone was "punking" him and referred to it generally as a joke. He is seeking to minimize the incident, because he, indeed, was the cause of the incident. If he was the victim of a cyberspace attack by a right-wing agent, he would be using the incident to embarrass his Republican opponents, not downplaying it.

"He’s hiding information," says Joe Navarro, adjunct professor at Saint Leo University in Florida who studies body language. "I think he has knowledge of something nefarious, but we don’t know what that is. He is definitely hiding information and unwilling to reveal the full truth. ... He’s chosen a path and unfortunately he thinks he can overcome it by continuing to talk about it, but it’s not getting any better. It’s worse. He is concealing information and he's concealing it with intent."


4) His refusal to ask for an investigation.

Weiner says he doesn't want the police to investigate and tries to make the case that it would be a waste of federal dollars. (Let's not forget that police are already paid salaries to investigate crimes.) The only reason that makes any sense why he doesn't want the police to investigate is because he's afraid they would find out that he sent the tweet and that his hacker claim is a lie. If he was truly hacked and publicly humiliated by a political opponent, he would want that person brought to justice.

5) His strange, angry obfuscating comments to the press.

Weiner has called a reporter a "jackass," refused to answer simple, basic questions and given strange, ambiguous answers to a number of questions to both hostile and friendly interviewers.

"He has a self righteous attitude and there is guilt underneath it," says Laurie Puhn, author of "Instant Persuasion: How to change your words to change your life." "He’s lying. There’s no visible expression of being stunned or hurt that this happened to him. He's angry and he's angry at the wrong people. The reporters didn’t do this to him. He recognizes that this could be the end of his career. He's seen other politicians go down for things like this."


6) His calling the police on a reporter.

For all his comments about not wasting police resources, he was quick to call the cops on a TV reporter who kept asking him questions about the incident. He continues to act like the culprit and not the victim.

In conclusion, I don't know why some men think it's a good idea to send photos of their penises to women (see: Brett Favre) but it's usually people who feel a sense of power or have narcissistic tendencies. Studies have shown narcissists are the most-likely people to cheat on their spouses and it's also been shown that fame fuels narcissism. Weiner shows these tendencies by apparently believing that he can talk his way out of anything. Unfortunately for him, he's made the situation worse. His explanations only make sense when one assumes that he did the very deed he's trying so hard to convince us he didn't do.

Now, as I stated at the beginning, I believe politicians' sex lives should be immaterial to voters. If they do a good job in office, who cares? But Weiner should drop the false pretenses. He sent the tweet. He wasn't hacked. Only when we accept the truth can we truly move on to something else. Otherwise, questions will continue to plague him.
 

werepossum

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Nope.

Never would consider it either.

Anyway, no reason for such a thing, we live AND work together. Could just walk over and show them the real thing.

Fern

Agreed, that's just weird. Why send a photo of your junk to someone who no doubt has it memorized? Sending a penis picture is an attempt to get some strange - an attempt to get some strange by a sad, socially clueless twit. (Unless he's hung like John Holmes, then it might actually be winning strategery.)
 

spidey07

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Agreed, that's just weird. Why send a photo of your junk to someone who no doubt has it memorized? Sending a penis picture is an attempt to get some strange - an attempt to get some strange by a sad, socially clueless twit. (Unless he's hung like John Holmes, then it might actually be winning strategery.)

I send them from work so wifey can "be ready",if you know what I mean, for when I get home.
 
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