I think you are I are discussing two different things.
This law (the one the OP is about, and which I was referring to in the quote you chose ) violates the 14th amendment. The other may violate the 5th amendment. Potentially the 9th amendment as well. I've read it, it's on shaking ground at best.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Yes, I understand that viewpoint. But it fails to acknowledge that eliminating a right of a potential American child is what they are advocating. It punishes an American because of their parents.
No, they are children of illegal foreign nationals.
Almost no other country on the world, and certainly not Mexico or any Central American countries acknowledge children born under such circumstances as citizens of their respective countries.
I notice you seem enamored of the joyous creation of human life. What is your position on abortion?
Yes, they are children of illegal foreign nationals. But they're also American citizens.
I don't care what countries like Mexico, Germany, or Saudi Arabia do. There is a reason why their societies are crumbling under so much strain.
I am not "enamored of the joyous creation of human life." I just think that an American child should not be punished because of his or her parents. It's not some horrific event.
That is the point. People would rather not work if they dont have to. A lot of those jobs that are done by illegals require real work.
And yet you have no problem importing those cultures, and their baggage here.
So killing babies is no big deal, but deporting them is 'teh evil'. Got it!
Answer the question instead of trying to avoid it by semantics.A country is not a house.
Yes, I am referring to the other law, not this one, as I understand it could violate the 14th.
Here is the 5th:
I am not sure I see how the other law could violate the 5th.
The 9th is admittedly a little vague, but I am not sure which rights you'd be specifically referring to?
Answer the question instead of trying to avoid it by semantics.
Country or house the end result is the same.
Someone commits an illegal act and then tries to profit by such an act.
Is that acceptable to you?
Don't be ridiculous. It's not the same at all. It's a stupid analogy.
A house is a family residence. It contains a handful of people who purchased the house to get ownership.
If my wife and I sneak into England illegally and she gives birth should that baby become a British citizen??
Citizenship should not be determined by where you are born, but by who you are born too.
If my wife and I sneak into England illegally and she gives birth should that baby become a British citizen??
Citizenship should not be determined by where you are born, but by who you are born too.
Excuse me Mr. CanOWorms, I have "Gadsen Purchase" holing on line 1, and "The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo" holing on line 2.
Should I tell them that you are "out to lunch", sir?
No thanks. I don't want the Europeanization of American citizenship rules.
I fail to see how that is relevant.
I suppose you'd rather have the Medieval caste system of a third world shithole like India.
Gadsen PURCHASE?
Hello. Is this thing on?
Please see your earlier post regarding "a handful of people who purchased the house to get ownership"
Wow, it's like you only saw the word "purchased" and something just switched in your head.
Yes, my memory of history class 'pwned' your ill-thought-out example.
Ignorance sucks!
Take away the lifetime of unemployment checks and watch those lazy ass losers get to work fast.
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
It's great that you remember things about history from your schooldays. I congratulate you. I just wish that you retained some reading comprehension skills from school, too.
I comprehended your bad example just fine.
¿Comprende?