Originally posted by: FettsBabe
"personally i think if 2 guys want to merry then fine. no skin off my nose.
the goverment has always had double standards. thats the goverment for you. but since they do it does nto make it right. "
I agree so whole heartedly. But they can't tell us not to discriminate and then in the same sentence do it themselves. They are NOT PRIVATE like the BSA. They represent the people and people of all walks of life. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. One more reason why I think this is so stupid.
The "other reason" is that the Marriots are Mormons. The church doesn't own the hotel chain. Your logic is whacked. Plus, even if the church did own the hotel chain, churches don't get tax-exempt status on their outside (non-religious, for-profit) investments. So your whole tangent on this is BS stemming for ignorance.Originally posted by: Adn4n
And I'm sure return missionary meetings here in Salt Lake City where I live are always held free of charge here at Marriot hotels for another reason besides the LDS church being the largest holder.
Originally posted by: FettsBabe
Platypus,
To respond to you personally, I have several gay friends and love them dearly. David and Jamie are my buddies and they love each other sincerely.
I support gay marriage, insurance and common rights of married couples.
Do I think it is christian to discriminate...NO I DON'T. I don't look at gay, white, black, hispanic, etc. I love everyone which is why I would have done something for Howard. I would not have just turned him away. I would have found some organization that would be what he needed and that he would and would want to be a part of. That sets me apart from other people. I care about people. The Scouters I know would have done the same.
But it is the right of the BSA to add members as they wish since they are private. I am a supporter of Americans rights to free speech.
I don't like the KKK, but by God they have every right to exist if they do it peacefully and not hanging a black person in a yard. I know that is old school, but I wanted to clarify what I meant by peacefully.
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: MrPickins
What is so silly is the BSA doesn't care which "God" you worship, just that you worship one, yet their defense for being anti-gay is mostly based on Christian doctrine.
What about Hindus and Buddhists where homosexuality is not specifically antagonized? Can those kids join?
Hindus and Buddhists are welcomed, and the prohibition against gays in the BSA is a pre-emptive move against (what would otherwise be inevitable) destructive litigation.
Your post here shows you to be a confused individual, if you think that Hindus don't worship a "God," or that cultural prejudices against homosexuality are solely Christian.
It's somewhat difficult for me to read such posts that try to appear to be up in arms against discrimination, while at the same time are loaded with bigotry. Have you ever heard of live and let live?
Originally posted by: FettsBabe
Playpus,
Yes, it does if they are saved, but a saved person that still commits "sin" in Gods eyes is no longer saved. I guess in the grand scheme of things it comes down to whether you believe in once saved always saved or if you believe you can stray and have to come back unto the arms of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Our organization does not believe it once saved always saved and that you have to follow God's law or you sin which you have to seek forgiveness. If you lay down everynight with the same man or woman (gay couple) then you would be on your knees (no pun intended) every night and morning. Thats funny...LOL, ok so I meant for it to be funny!!!!! LMAO.
Originally posted by: FettsBabe
The Boy Scouts is such a great organization and teaches boys how to be men. It really pisses me off when people slam the BSA organization. They teach survival skills, life skills (personal management, railroading, CPR, etc), and many other valuable lessons such as respect for authority, respect of elders and others.
Everyone always says why does a kid need survival skills. If a child gets lost and they have been in Scouts I worry about them but not like I would if they hadn't been. The child that got lost the other month in NC had only been in Scouts 1 year and he survived with no clothes for over 3 days and the temp was dipping to 28 at night. He survived, he found the searchers, and he was only dehydrated.
Yes, they are restrictive as to who can be a member, but who cares? Its all about your personal beliefs. If you don't like it just shut up and don't put you child in it. Who really cares since you aren't going to be a member anyway.
I'm glad girls can now join the Boy Scouts (Venturing) to those that don't know.
I helped raise $16,000 for Camp Raven Knob last year (in one night might I add) and it was worth every minute I put into the fundraiser. Kids for years and years will enjoy the Campsite because of me and our Troop (942).
Wow, I feel better now that I got that off my chest!!!!