Anti Boy Scouts....GRRRRRR.

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: slag
I'm pro boy scouts.

I was a scout up until life scout.

My son is a tiger cub.

I'm fine with them not allowing homosexuals in the organization. I feel its an unhealthy lifestyle and not something I want my young kids to be around or associated with. These are my beliefs, like them or not. Feel free to judge me or call me names it if makes you feel better.

Honest question, how long do you think you can 'protect' your kids from the real world?

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: slag
I'm pro boy scouts.

I was a scout up until life scout.

My son is a tiger cub.

I'm fine with them not allowing homosexuals in the organization. I feel its an unhealthy lifestyle and not something I want my young kids to be around or associated with. These are my beliefs, like them or not. Feel free to judge me or call me names it if makes you feel better.

You're a bigot, and I judge you intolerant and hateful.

The BSA should have their tax exempt status withdrawn. While the good they do far outweighs the bad, I would have no qualms with shattering the whole organization for their intolerance.

 

[Ronstang]

Do the NAACP or the UNCF (United Negro College Fund) get any money, special treatment, or discounts from the government?

 

[FiddleDD]

You can't completely protect your kids from the real world, but you can protect them to the best of your ability and try and make the wisest choices you feel are right for your own children. That is his right as a father, and noone should try and tell him that because eventually he might not be there to protect his child from seeing something, that he should abandon what he can protect.

 

[IronWing]

I was a Boy Scout for seven years. I learned a lot. The first time I smoked pot was on a Boy Scout outing. The first time I got drunk was on a Boy Scout outing. I got to watch lots of dads drunk off their asses hitting on any female that happened to be near. I learned to be a man I guess.

 

[spidey07]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Platypus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: slag
I'm pro boy scouts.

I was a scout up until life scout.

My son is a tiger cub.

I'm fine with them not allowing homosexuals in the organization. I feel its an unhealthy lifestyle and not something I want my young kids to be around or associated with. These are my beliefs, like them or not. Feel free to judge me or call me names it if makes you feel better.

</end quote></div>

Honest question, how long do you think you can 'protect' your kids from the real world?</end quote></div>

How long before the "real world" rejects your agenda?

I'm thinking civil war in about 10 years to get rid of people telling other people what they should believe in. This is america. Land of the free, so stop forcing your beliefs on others.

 

[FiddleDD]

as I have been busily amusing myself in this thread, I get a kick out of the people that are judging the boy scouts. Its like living in a glass house. How do you judge someone for making judgments? Doesn't that make you the same?

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: spidey07
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Platypus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: slag
I'm pro boy scouts.

I was a scout up until life scout.

My son is a tiger cub.

I'm fine with them not allowing homosexuals in the organization. I feel its an unhealthy lifestyle and not something I want my young kids to be around or associated with. These are my beliefs, like them or not. Feel free to judge me or call me names it if makes you feel better.

</end quote></div>

Honest question, how long do you think you can 'protect' your kids from the real world?</end quote></div>

How long before the "real world" rejects your agenda?

I'm thinking civil war in about 10 years to get rid of people telling other people what they should believe in. This is america. Land of the free, so stop forcing your beliefs on others.

Where did I interject my beliefs at all in my question to him? Some people can't read very well.

 

[Born2bwire]

I was in the boy scouts and I do not agree with their stance on religion and homosexuality. I went to church as a kid and had no problem with the religious aspects of the scouting, but looking back now I can see how that it could be uncomfortable for children who are not brought up in a Christian background. For sexual orientation, I don't see how that's any business of scouting. Straight or gay it shouldn't be a subject in scouting or events. I don't expect to hear a scoutmaster telling his troop about how he's going to go home and sleep with his wife. Scouting is a great experience but it's sad that they have policies to alienate or exclude people from it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

This thread deserves a bump. Remember, you can't spell Christmas without Christ...more random christian quotes to come! stay tuned!!

 

[boredhokie]

Originally posted by: FiddleDD
Kudo's to the BSA for not taking religion out of their program. Political views pushed it out of schools, but I'm glad there is a long lasting insitution that is keeping God in their program. God is who our founding father's believed in.

LOL, homeschooled huh? Most of the founding fathers were Deists or atheistic, having grown up during Europe's freethinking movement.

I belonged to the Boy Scouts but I never really believed in the American consumerist Uncle God. My moral character is unquestionable, but I have my parents to thank for that and not the bible.

I'm assuming you think an abortion bomber is fundamentally more moralistic than an atheist?

Either way I think the Boy Scouts serve a good purpose, which is why I think you and Fiddle double D's should stop posting here - you're horrible from a PR standpoint.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Do the NAACP or the UNCF (United Negro College Fund) get any money, special treatment, or discounts from the government?

And I don't agree with their existence either...at least not in their current forms.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: boredhokie

Originally posted by: FiddleDD
Kudo's to the BSA for not taking religion out of their program. Political views pushed it out of schools, but I'm glad there is a long lasting insitution that is keeping God in their program. God is who our founding father's believed in.

LOL, homeschooled huh? Most of the founding fathers were Deists or atheistic, having grown up during Europe's freethinking movement.

I belonged to the Boy Scouts but I never really believed in the American consumerist Uncle God. My moral character is unquestionable, but I have my parents to thank for that and not the bible.

I'm assuming you think an abortion bomber is fundamentally more moralistic than an atheist?

Either way I think the Boy Scouts serve a good purpose, which is why I think you and Fiddle double D's should stop posting here - you're horrible from a PR standpoint.

The notion that our nation was founded purely by god-fearing Christian men has been manufactured and sold by the overly religious for years. It has becomes so accepted in many people's minds that they have no interest in what the truth actually is.

This is one reason I cringe every time someone tells me history is a pointless subject.

 

[FiddleDD]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>LOL, homeschooled huh? Most of the founding fathers were Deists or atheistic, having grown up during Europe's freethinking movement.

I belonged to the Boy Scouts but I never really believed in the American consumerist Uncle God. My moral character is unquestionable, but I have my parents to thank for that and not the bible.

I'm assuming you think an abortion bomber is fundamentally more moralistic than an atheist?<div class="FTQUOTE">

1) not homeschooled and I'm not for homeschooling, mainly because that is the ultimate sheltering of children, and I'm not sure when it is time for them to enter society they are as well equipped. I also don't think one person (usually the mother that has not graduated from college) can give the children what 7 different educated teachers can give them in a school setting. I did grow up a military brat though, that might explain some of it, where God and country at the time I grew up were inseperable.

2) gosh I hate to use something this simple...but you know what they say about when you assume...

you obviously didn't read the whole thread especially in regards to my feelings on atheistism, or you only saw what you were thinking you wanted it to say.

3) I believe killing/bombing (other than war to protect) in any respect is wrong! I believe someone with "unquestionable moral character" would get to know someone before such assumptions.

4) To repeat, I believe that we all can chose who we are and what we want to believe in. I believe that people who do not believe in God can be good moral people, just as I believe people who believe in God can be good moral people.

 

[Gilligansdingy]

Sheep

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Platypus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: slag
I'm pro boy scouts.

I was a scout up until life scout.

My son is a tiger cub.

I'm fine with them not allowing homosexuals in the organization. I feel its an unhealthy lifestyle and not something I want my young kids to be around or associated with. These are my beliefs, like them or not. Feel free to judge me or call me names it if makes you feel better.

</end quote></div>

Honest question, how long do you think you can 'protect' your kids from the real world?

Until they are old enough to make mature decisions. At 4 and 6, they are not mature enough for that. As for giving a specific age, I don't know. Everyone develops at different speeds. It might be 3 months from now, it might be 3 years from now. I'll know when it happens.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Nebor
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: slag
I'm pro boy scouts.

I was a scout up until life scout.

My son is a tiger cub.

I'm fine with them not allowing homosexuals in the organization. I feel its an unhealthy lifestyle and not something I want my young kids to be around or associated with. These are my beliefs, like them or not. Feel free to judge me or call me names it if makes you feel better.

</end quote></div>

You're a bigot, and I judge you intolerant and hateful.

The BSA should have their tax exempt status withdrawn. While the good they do far outweighs the bad, I would have no qualms with shattering the whole organization for their intolerance.

Hateful? I don't hate people for their lifestyles. I just don't want to be around it/associated with it if I have the option. Am I bigoted because I don't want to be around or associated with skinheads also? The answer to that is yes. Everyone is bigoted towards something.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: slag
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Platypus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: slag
I'm pro boy scouts.

I was a scout up until life scout.

My son is a tiger cub.

I'm fine with them not allowing homosexuals in the organization. I feel its an unhealthy lifestyle and not something I want my young kids to be around or associated with. These are my beliefs, like them or not. Feel free to judge me or call me names it if makes you feel better.

</end quote></div>

Honest question, how long do you think you can 'protect' your kids from the real world?</end quote></div>

Until they are old enough to make mature decisions. At 4 and 6, they are not mature enough for that. As for giving a specific age, I don't know. Everyone develops at different speeds. It might be 3 months from now, it might be 3 years from now. I'll know when it happens.

hahahahahhahaha

 

[K1052]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: slag
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Platypus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: slag
I'm pro boy scouts.

I was a scout up until life scout.

My son is a tiger cub.

I'm fine with them not allowing homosexuals in the organization. I feel its an unhealthy lifestyle and not something I want my young kids to be around or associated with. These are my beliefs, like them or not. Feel free to judge me or call me names it if makes you feel better.

</end quote></div>

Honest question, how long do you think you can 'protect' your kids from the real world?</end quote></div>

Until they are old enough to make mature decisions. At 4 and 6, they are not mature enough for that. As for giving a specific age, I don't know. Everyone develops at different speeds. It might be 3 months from now, it might be 3 years from now. I'll know when it happens.</end quote></div>

Parents are usually remarkably ignorant to such things. In all probability you won't know "when it happens" and would have left your children to discover some of the world's truths without you by trying to shield them for as long as possible.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: waggy
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: slag
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Platypus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: slag
I'm pro boy scouts.

I was a scout up until life scout.

My son is a tiger cub.

I'm fine with them not allowing homosexuals in the organization. I feel its an unhealthy lifestyle and not something I want my young kids to be around or associated with. These are my beliefs, like them or not. Feel free to judge me or call me names it if makes you feel better.

</end quote></div>

Honest question, how long do you think you can 'protect' your kids from the real world?</end quote></div>

Until they are old enough to make mature decisions. At 4 and 6, they are not mature enough for that. As for giving a specific age, I don't know. Everyone develops at different speeds. It might be 3 months from now, it might be 3 years from now. I'll know when it happens.</end quote></div>

hahahahahhahaha

As a parent, its my role to try to protect and nurture them to the best of my ability while still letting them experience the "real world". Newsflash to you, homosexuality is not normal. If one of my sons were homosexual I would still love them as only a parent can love their child, but that doesn't make it right. One of the roles of a parent is to support his/her child even though they might not agree with everything they do.

 

[FiddleDD]

Thank you all, this has been a very interesting thread, as it has made me explore more into what the ACLU is all about, and wow I can't believe they defend this group (that I would have never guessed even existed) ; North American Man/Boy Love Association that advocates the legalization of pedophilic sexual relations between adult males and young boys.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: K1052
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: slag
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Platypus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: slag
I'm pro boy scouts.

I was a scout up until life scout.

My son is a tiger cub.

I'm fine with them not allowing homosexuals in the organization. I feel its an unhealthy lifestyle and not something I want my young kids to be around or associated with. These are my beliefs, like them or not. Feel free to judge me or call me names it if makes you feel better.

</end quote></div>

Honest question, how long do you think you can 'protect' your kids from the real world?</end quote></div>

Until they are old enough to make mature decisions. At 4 and 6, they are not mature enough for that. As for giving a specific age, I don't know. Everyone develops at different speeds. It might be 3 months from now, it might be 3 years from now. I'll know when it happens.</end quote></div></end quote></div>

Parents are usually remarkably ignorant to such things. In all probability you won't know "when it happens" and would have left your children to discover some of the world's truths without you by trying to shield them for as long as possible.

I didn't claim to be perfect, but I do have frank talks with my kids about things they need to know as they grow up. My children discover new things every day. That doesn't mean that I want them to be subject to homosexuality if I have a say in it at this stage in their development. I live in a liberal college town and we have our share of all lifestyles.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: FiddleDD
Thank you all, this has been a very interesting thread, as it has made me explore more into what the ACLU is all about, and wow I can't believe they defend this group (that I would have never guessed even existed) ; North American Man/Boy Love Association that advocates the legalization of pedophilic sexual relations between adult males and young boys.

*sigh*

 

[FiddleDD]

honest question: Do you think a lot of people on this site are pro-aclu?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: FiddleDD
honest question: Do you think a lot of people on this site are pro-aclu?

You are either trolling or simply can't read.