Anti-Catholic Bigotry

[rmrf]

Originally posted by: DougK62
I find it hilarious that these Protestant "Christians" attack Catholics for praying to Mary. EVERY mass I've been to - including every Protestant church I've visited - has somewhere in there that they ask for you to pray for someone who is sick/injured/etc. This is EXACTLY what Catholics do with Mary - they ask her to pray for the sick/injured/etc. Explain to me how that's different.

Hypocrite, elitist idiots.

People are living, they have the ability to pray. Mary is dead, and a statue in Catholic churches; an idol. As a Christian, you can only reach God through Jesus. There is nothing wrong with asking a living human being to pray for someone. There is a problem when you "ask" a statue in a church to pass on prayers to God.

edit: dang, nik beat me to it

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

*neener neener*

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Nik
You can't pick-and-choose what to believe out of the Bible. You either believe all of it or none of it. If you believe it, then you must believe that Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Christ. For the sake of this conversation, we're banking on people believing the Bible.

I have always disagreed with this line of thinking. There was a great deal of "picking-and-choosing" involved when the books of the Bible were compiled. So this "all of it or none of it" is a bunch of fundamentalist bullsh!t.
In the meantime, you might take note that while Luke and Matthew mention the virgin birth and various conflicting stories of Jesus' childhood while Mark, the earliest written of the gospels, makes no mention of Jesus' birth or childhood whatsoever, but begins immediately at His baptism by John (the Baptist).

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

I don't deny that I know too little about the way the modern Bible was compiled.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: DougK62
I find it hilarious that these Protestant "Christians" attack Catholics for praying to Mary. EVERY mass I've been to - including every Protestant church I've visited - has somewhere in there that they ask for you to pray for someone who is sick/injured/etc. This is EXACTLY what Catholics do with Mary - they ask her to pray for the sick/injured/etc. Explain to me how that's different.

Hypocrite, elitist idiots.

1) Mary is dead. Mary isn't alive. She cannot pray. Her soul is sleeping, according to how the Bible describes death. She won't wake until the 2nd coming.

2) Why ask Mary to pray for you when you can pray right to God to begin with?

3) Did you miss the whole "but through me" thing that Jesus said?

So it's OK to pray to a dead Jesus, but asking a dead Mary to pray for something is just way out there crazy. Gotcha.

You can't really converse with someone who takes the text of the Bible - which is HORRIBLY vague in most areas - and insists that their own interpretation is exactly the way that events went down, and that the wording is exactly as it came straight from Jesus' mouth. Maybe that's why Catholics are so much more tolerable and easy to get along with than Protestants.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: DougK62
I find it hilarious that these Protestant "Christians" attack Catholics for praying to Mary. EVERY mass I've been to - including every Protestant church I've visited - has somewhere in there that they ask for you to pray for someone who is sick/injured/etc. This is EXACTLY what Catholics do with Mary - they ask her to pray for the sick/injured/etc. Explain to me how that's different.

Hypocrite, elitist idiots.

And yet, it's the Catholics who flock to freeway overpass stains that bear a remote resemblance to Mary, and get all emotional about these "miracles"...

Uh - that has nothing to do with what I typed. There are fundies everywhere.

 

[rmrf]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: DougK62
I find it hilarious that these Protestant "Christians" attack Catholics for praying to Mary. EVERY mass I've been to - including every Protestant church I've visited - has somewhere in there that they ask for you to pray for someone who is sick/injured/etc. This is EXACTLY what Catholics do with Mary - they ask her to pray for the sick/injured/etc. Explain to me how that's different.

Hypocrite, elitist idiots.

1) Mary is dead. Mary isn't alive. She cannot pray. Her soul is sleeping, according to how the Bible describes death. She won't wake until the 2nd coming.

2) Why ask Mary to pray for you when you can pray right to God to begin with?

3) Did you miss the whole "but through me" thing that Jesus said?

So it's OK to pray to a dead Jesus, but asking a dead Mary to pray for something is just way out there crazy. Gotcha.

You can't really converse with someone who takes the text of the Bible - which is HORRIBLY vague in most areas - and insists that their own interpretation is exactly the way that events went down, and that the wording is exactly as it came straight from Jesus' mouth. Maybe that's why Catholics are so much more tolerable and easy to get along with than Protestants.

Jesus is not dead.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: DougK62
So it's OK to pray to a dead Jesus, but asking a dead Mary to pray for something is just way out there crazy. Gotcha.

You can't really converse with someone who takes the text of the Bible - which is HORRIBLY vague in most areas - and insists that their own interpretation is exactly the way that events went down, and that the wording is exactly as it came straight from Jesus' mouth. Maybe that's why Catholics are so much more tolerable and easy to get along with than Protestants.

Sigh. :roll:

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: DougK62
So it's OK to pray to a dead Jesus, but asking a dead Mary to pray for something is just way out there crazy. Gotcha.

You can't really converse with someone who takes the text of the Bible - which is HORRIBLY vague in most areas - and insists that their own interpretation is exactly the way that events went down, and that the wording is exactly as it came straight from Jesus' mouth. Maybe that's why Catholics are so much more tolerable and easy to get along with than Protestants.

Sigh. :roll:

I know -- the truth hurts, doesn't it? I also use the eye roller when I don't have a good response. It's a good generic cover for my ignorance. BRILLIANT!

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: DougK62
So it's OK to pray to a dead Jesus, but asking a dead Mary to pray for something is just way out there crazy. Gotcha.

You can't really converse with someone who takes the text of the Bible - which is HORRIBLY vague in most areas - and insists that their own interpretation is exactly the way that events went down, and that the wording is exactly as it came straight from Jesus' mouth. Maybe that's why Catholics are so much more tolerable and easy to get along with than Protestants.

Sigh. :roll:

I know -- the truth hurts, doesn't it? I also use the eye roller when I don't have a good response. It's a good generic cover for my ignorance. BRILLIANT!

Then you should be sighing and rolling your eyes right now. There's just so much to go over with you to help you understand, but I'm tired of explaining these preschool-level concepts to people like you who would rather throw insults than have a legitimately civil conversation.

Jesus is dead? Why are you even in this thread?

 

[leftyman]

Im of the belief that if there is a God than the last thing he would want is people arguing and dying over how to worship him.

 

[Chaotic42]

Just have the pope say that the episode never aired. Since he is infallable, the episode will never have aired and there won't be a problem.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: rmrf

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: DougK62
I find it hilarious that these Protestant "Christians" attack Catholics for praying to Mary. EVERY mass I've been to - including every Protestant church I've visited - has somewhere in there that they ask for you to pray for someone who is sick/injured/etc. This is EXACTLY what Catholics do with Mary - they ask her to pray for the sick/injured/etc. Explain to me how that's different.

Hypocrite, elitist idiots.

1) Mary is dead. Mary isn't alive. She cannot pray. Her soul is sleeping, according to how the Bible describes death. She won't wake until the 2nd coming.

2) Why ask Mary to pray for you when you can pray right to God to begin with?

3) Did you miss the whole "but through me" thing that Jesus said?

So it's OK to pray to a dead Jesus, but asking a dead Mary to pray for something is just way out there crazy. Gotcha.

You can't really converse with someone who takes the text of the Bible - which is HORRIBLY vague in most areas - and insists that their own interpretation is exactly the way that events went down, and that the wording is exactly as it came straight from Jesus' mouth. Maybe that's why Catholics are so much more tolerable and easy to get along with than Protestants.

Jesus is not dead.

He is certainly not alive...

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: rmrf

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: DougK62
I find it hilarious that these Protestant "Christians" attack Catholics for praying to Mary. EVERY mass I've been to - including every Protestant church I've visited - has somewhere in there that they ask for you to pray for someone who is sick/injured/etc. This is EXACTLY what Catholics do with Mary - they ask her to pray for the sick/injured/etc. Explain to me how that's different.

Hypocrite, elitist idiots.

1) Mary is dead. Mary isn't alive. She cannot pray. Her soul is sleeping, according to how the Bible describes death. She won't wake until the 2nd coming.

2) Why ask Mary to pray for you when you can pray right to God to begin with?

3) Did you miss the whole "but through me" thing that Jesus said?

So it's OK to pray to a dead Jesus, but asking a dead Mary to pray for something is just way out there crazy. Gotcha.

You can't really converse with someone who takes the text of the Bible - which is HORRIBLY vague in most areas - and insists that their own interpretation is exactly the way that events went down, and that the wording is exactly as it came straight from Jesus' mouth. Maybe that's why Catholics are so much more tolerable and easy to get along with than Protestants.

Jesus is not dead.

He is certainly not alive...

He actually just shovelled my driveway.

 

[OmahaTaz]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: JujuFish
I'd say Leper Messiah has it about right. Praying to the Mary is basically idolatry. Another thing, why call her Virgin Mary? She's not a virgin.

actually, yes she is. emmaculate (sp?) conception.

For the birth of Jesus, correct. But, what about her other children?

what other children?

The bible indicates Mary only had one son.

:laugh:

Jesus had brothers.

And sisters apparently.... Link for Reference

 

[OmahaTaz]

Originally posted by: leftyman
Im of the belief that if there is a God than the last thing he would want is people arguing and dying over how to worship him.

QFT! I gotta believe that Jesus and God were a bit put out with things like the Spanish Inquisition.

 

[PsychoUnit]

Not worth the argument.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: PsychoUnit

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: PsychoUnit

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Catholics are going to hell.

There is no hell.

You cannot possibly know that any more than religious folk can know whether it exists or not. Either way, whether you believe it exists or not, is accepted by faith.

No I am catholic because it is the best religion IN MY OPINION on this world...so I chose the best, and hope for the best. But deep down in side, something is telling me there is no hell, and the god that exists, is not worshiped because nobody knwos about him/her/it. But, I wouldn't want to risk it, so my best bet is to be a good catholic you never know.

But seriously, how about those people that are born in a family that worships a different religion? They are brought up and raised that way, and the chances of converting are extremely slim becaues they accept what they have been raised into. So what, now the "great" god will punish these innocent people by throwing them into hell? It isn't their fault, and god isn't supposed to punish, he taught us all to "FORGIVE", so he MUST forgive.

And then they said that we will burn in hell. Well, how are we going to burn if our body isn't going to hell/heaven after death according to catholic religion, it is our soul that is going there.

If god knew we would be this bad, and he "wanted to test us", and "believe in him", then why did he create us? According to the catholic religion, god knows the past, present, and FUTURE. Therefore, before he put us on this earth, he knew exactly what would happen, that 93% of the wars fought would be over religion, and that millions people wouldn't believe him.

And then there's another angle of the story, long ago we had greeks, aztecs, mayans, and other civilizations believe in gods. Now nobody believes in those gods, the Greeks don't believe in mythology because TECHNOLOGY has proved it wrong, now it would be silly to believe in Greek mythology, but back then it was like Christianity today. Technology has proved it wrong.

Also, the percentage of Atheists (those that don't believe in god) has risen in the United States dramatically last numberof years. Right now we have 23% of American citizens, that do not believe in a religion, or should I say God/Godesss. One day, technology will prove it wrong.

War is a result of religion. Think about this, every year, the average lifespan in America is increasing DRASTICALLY, in the next 80 years, the life span of the average American will be 123 years old (read this in school) because of push of technology, this is at the rate we are going at CURRENTLY. This rate will increase with better technology.

The scientists are already saying that they found a gene that removes the useless tail from our body, which is supposed to increase the average lifespan of generations down. That's not all, right now we have people cronigenically freezing themselves thinking years from now, there will be technology to bring them back to life...well, my speculation is, that years from now there will be technology to bring you back to life with 1 piece of DNA, a hair, skin, frozen follicle, anything. Then we won't die, our heaven will be earth, and if this will happen, everybody that dies could be possible be brought back.

So nothing is too late, don't kill yourself over religion, and no pun intended. After all, I am Catholic, just in case.

I don't even know where to begin with this...

 

[PsychoUnit]

Don't begin, war and argument over religion is the last thing you and this world wants.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: PsychoUnit

[snip]

After all, I am Catholic, just in case.

Holy cow...are you serious? im not even going to bother answering the rest of your post, but do you really think it matters if you are 'christian just in case'?

go tell someone you have faith in them as long as they show you results and see how well they do for you. you need to have unconditional faith if you are going to have it at all, because otherwise you are just being a fairweather fan.

 

[PsychoUnit]

That's because I am on/off. A side of me is telling me to be faithful, and another side is telling me that religion is silly. I don't know what to believe. But I'll see as years and months go by. The rest of my post is excellent. Technology plays an important role here.

Religion teaches you good morales, not just to believe in God. It is what seperates a good person from a bad person.

 

[RU482]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Catholics are going to hell.

hahahahafvckyouhahahaha

 

[dandruff]

:laugh:

 

[PsychoUnit]

Originally posted by: redly1

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Catholics are going to hell.

hahahahafvckyouhahahaha

See people like that should be banned. Why isn't this thread moderated by now? I noticed 1 thing, people don't mind mocking Catholics, but if I would've posted a thread against Muslims, I would've been long gone from these forums.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: PsychoUnit

Originally posted by: redly1

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Catholics are going to hell.

hahahahafvckyouhahahaha

See people like that should be banned. Why isn't this thread moderated by now? I noticed 1 thing, people don't mind mocking Catholics, but if I would've posted a thread against Muslims, I would've been long gone from these forums.

No way, everytime Muslims make the news there'll be a thread on ATOT saying how islam should be gone from the earth. Islam and Christianity get equal scrutiny here