I agree service disruptions are a big problem as well, I just don’t see these barriers doing much. They wouldn’t prevent suicides, they wouldn’t prevent deliberate intrusions or idiots subway surfing, and they would be at best modestly effective at preventing attacks.
Like exactly who is this keeping off the tracks?
We Now Have a Better-Than-Nothing Subway-Platform Barrier
The prototype, at 191st Street, looks simple, cheap, and modestly effective.www.curbed.com
This.
So more like $700 billion, haha.
Yes, I think something of that sort would be effective at significantly reducing track intrusions and deaths, albeit not easy to implement due to different door positioning on different types of trains. (I guess you would need to designate one particular train model for each color line or whatever, although this would be a challenge.) I think before we can consider that though like with everything else we need to get the MTA's capital costs under control as it's not feasible at current rates.Or maybe more appropriately a retrofit model like the French have been doing for quite some time on older lines.
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Yes, I think something of that sort would be effective at significantly reducing track intrusions and deaths, albeit not easy to implement due to different door positioning on different types of trains. (I guess you would need to designate one particular train model for each color line or whatever, although this would be a challenge.) I think before we can consider that though like with everything else we need to get the MTA's capital costs under control as it's not feasible at current rates.
Regardless, what the MTA has built and is proposing at the moment is a sad joke and an utter waste of money.
Deporting millions of illegals is restorative justice. We must not allow immigration crime to go unpunished.JD Vance has a plan to deport millions of pepeople.
Deporting millions of people will cause mass human suffering, product shortages, and a gigantic burst of inflation.Deporting millions of illegals is restorative justice. We must not allow immigration crime to go unpunished.
Yes, I think something of that sort would be effective at significantly reducing track intrusions and deaths, albeit not easy to implement due to different door positioning on different types of trains. (I guess you would need to designate one particular train model for each color line or whatever, although this would be a challenge.) I think before we can consider that though like with everything else we need to get the MTA's capital costs under control as it's not feasible at current rates.
Regardless, what the MTA has built and is proposing at the moment is a sad joke and an utter waste of money.
What do you mean finally admit it? I was talking about what the MTA is actually doing.nice of you to finally admit it.
MTA has a lot of waste but those doors/ walls to prevent track incursions would be 100% worth it.
Yes, I was referring to the plan currently being piloted. At the price of $7 billion (really more likely $15 billion) though I would not support it under any circumstances.Didn't you originally say it's not worth doing in post #85 and #87?
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Either way I'm glad you're coming around and supporting something that would significantly reduce deaths and track incursions!
I've seen quite a few articles about removing street parking for a busway or whatever where small business owners in places like Manhattan or like Church Ave. in Brooklyn would say things like 'we will go out of business because most of our customers arrive here by car!'.
lol. No they fucking don't. It's incredible that someone could be that ignorant/delusional about their own business.
Ah, I see, the "feel good" result. Well, here's hoping (from me at least) that ol JD doesn't get a chance to implement his shitty plan.Deporting millions of illegals is restorative justice. We must not allow immigration crime to go unpunished.
You have to learn how to explain things to Felix.Deporting millions of people will cause mass human suffering, product shortages, and a gigantic burst of inflation.
There are people who seem to think bike lanes are the devil's work. I've had that happen around me, there is always the contingent of unevolved, unable to critically think or respond to any data or evidence that less cars and other modes of transport like bikes can help alleviate traffic and pollution. I mean they get vicious too.
Somewhere around 15 people get pushed onto the tracks each year, so let's say 8 per year. The question you should be asking yourself is if $7 billion would be better spent and assuming it prevented 100% of pushing deaths (and I'm very confident it wouldn't) you're talking around $12.5 million per year per death.
You can probably save a lot more lives spending that money on almost anything else.
New York has lower crime than most major cities.NY is a cesspool of crime of because of all the wild animals running around.
Spend $7 billion on new zoos so we can keep the animals locked up as opposed letting them mill about to loot stores, randomly set people on fire, attack musicians performing for free or push them in front of trains.
Its easy and effective.
New York has lower crime than most major cities.
Why do you think New York is so much better at controlling crime than conservative areas? Do you think they should ask New York how to manage their cities better?
No, you just don’t understand how the real world works. You’re in a bubble and you don’t get it.Honestly Eskimo, dont you think you are just desensitized to it? If you spent a week outside the big city you would be shocked at how the other half lives.
Even David Bowie made a song about it:
If you spent a week outside the big city you would be shocked at how the other half lives.
It’s very funny to me how people who have never lived in any city want to tell us that we don’t get how cities work.Plenty of crime in the sticks buddy. I'm from there and can attest.
It's amazing how political echo chambers can make people believe the exact opposite of reality.Honestly Eskimo, dont you think you are just desensitized to it? If you spent a week outside the big city you would be shocked at how the other half lives.
It’s also funny because I’ve lived for at least a year in NYC, Southern California, rural Virginia, suburban Pennsylvania, and the suburbs of Chicago.It's amazing how political echo chambers can make people believe the exact opposite of reality.
Anti-vaxxers are convinced people are dropping dead because of vaccines.
And here Felix is believing NYC crime rates are at record highs when they are at record lows. And if you take it back through Felix's lifetime, they are so dramatically lower as to be astonishing.
NYC officials announce city crime 'continues to trend downward'
Overall crime is down both on the streets of New York City and below in the subways, however, there was a spike in both assaults and robberies in the first quarter of this year.www.fox5ny.com
NYPD Announces July 2024 Citywide Crime Statistics
NYPD Announces July 2024 Citywide Crime Statisticswww.nyc.gov
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