So why do you want to keep these monuments, knowing who raised them & why?
We can put them in a museum, and replace them with monuments to Donald Trump.
j/k
No, on that website they wrote "Immersed in these struggles, against the state and its white supremacist militias, we are developing the capacity to liberate ourselves and others." and praised Mumia Abu Jamal, Russell Maroon Shoatz.
Those two were both convicted of murdering police officers or as they put it members of the "white supremacist militias".
They, and those like them are the "comerades" that organizations like antifa and IGD praise as martyrs.
They wouldn't like your views any better than the views of Nazis either, you are the enemy and so is everyone else who is a liberal or in any way stands in the way of the "revolution" to end liberalism.
Go look up Mumia Abu Jamal. Is black nationalism better than white nationalism and if so, why?
Being off your rocker is in style these days. They are still coming to grips with Hillary's loss. You saw how they reacted on election night. Bonzai is just using inflamed rhetoric because he is sad inside.
Poor guy, maybe sometime way in the future a Democrat somewhere will win an election and he will smile again.
In the meantime we have to put up with "antifa left wing scum" tearing down statues, hurting people and breaking things if you disagree with them.
They're destroying art in an attempt to erase the racist history of the Democratic Party. These are not smart people, they are not well informed, not what they purport themselves to be and certainly not what they believe themselves to be. It's obvious to everyone outside of their corrupted coastal sphere.
They're militant Neanderthals with the same moral structure as ISIS. They are evil. They are the Democrat Party.
They either get stopped now or this escalates. Free speech, art, culture, the nation. All of those and more are on their hate list. The fundamental transformation has been pushed back and they are fighting back. We stop them or we surrender. We stop them or we become what we fought against, what so many died to curtail over these last 100 years and since the nation was born. They hate this nation and what it stands for. But instead of leaving they have decided to subjugate all to their twisted ideology through violence and destruction.
They call themselves progressives but their policies are regressive. They're too fucking ignorant to recognize that. They're not worth saving.
Why does one leftist grouplet out of 57 zillion varieties merit such concern?
And black nationalism has different origins, a different significance, and presents a different level of risk and type of problem than white nationalism. "Better" is a meaningless term in the context, but they are certainly different types of thing.
Well yea its all about the Arts that's why trumps new budget proposal will zero the budget for the National Endowment for the Arts.
Why does one leftist grouplet out of 57 zillion varieties merit such concern?
And black nationalism has different origins, a different significance, and presents a different level of risk and type of problem than white nationalism. "Better" is a meaningless term in the context, but they are certainly different types of thing.
It's not that they are leftists and it's not ONE group, it's all far left groups just like it's all far right groups that are a problem. The problem is that the far left groups are universally admired while the far right groups are universally loathed.
The idea is the same and neither is better than the other. You are hated by both and they both use the same terrorist tactics and yet you defend one and attack the other. I don't get that. Or rather, I do get why. It's people wanting to play pretend that reality isn't real and that they are somehow better because of where they land on the political spectrum. That got us here in the first place and the idea of moving to the far left and the far right with no sane people in between is one that I reject as quite insane. We've seen fascist nations destroy themselves, we've seen authoritarian left nations destroy themselves while we were living in a liberal democracy with a mixed economy and able to afford to have opinions that didn't coincide with the leadership and the ability to make our voices heard.
Far left or far right is basically the same damn idea in practice, the ruling class wins and everyone else loses. You can play pretend that it wouldn't go that way but in reality it's ALWAYS gone that way.
What is bad is bad no matter where on the political spectrum the group doing what is bad resides.
Also, note how this groups stances were immediatly dismissed as benign by people who are on the left just because it's a group on the left.
Different but equally bad.
It means "Jews will not take our ubermench fast food minimum wage jobs." Which is probably true.What does "Jews will not replace us" mean?
Brave Sir Robin ran away.They're destroying art in an attempt to erase the racist history of the Democratic Party. These are not smart people, they are not well informed, not what they purport themselves to be and certainly not what they believe themselves to be. It's obvious to everyone outside of their corrupted coastal sphere.
They're militant Neanderthals with the same moral structure as ISIS. They are evil. They are the Democrat Party.
They either get stopped now or this escalates. Free speech, art, culture, the nation. All of those and more are on their hate list. The fundamental transformation has been pushed back and they are fighting back. We stop them or we surrender. We stop them or we become what we fought against, what so many died to curtail over these last 100 years and since the nation was born. They hate this nation and what it stands for. But instead of leaving they have decided to subjugate all to their twisted ideology through violence and destruction.
They call themselves progressives but their policies are regressive. They're too fucking ignorant to recognize that. They're not worth saving.
Because taking them down changes nothing. That, and the inevitable escalation which has already started.So why do you want to keep these monuments, knowing who raised them & why?
That reeks of false equivalency & a very poor understanding of American history. Jim Crow ruled the South until the mid 1960's & had for the 90 years preceding. Segregation was the law & it was just a deceptive way to say White Supremacy. It's perfectly obvious that his friends are trying for a comeback tour at least in terms of voting rights in Texas, N Carolina & elsewhere. Those roots are deep. Witness the concerted efforts to preserve the public monuments raised to serve that cause.
No parallel to that exists anywhere on the American left.
Because taking them down changes nothing.
Because taking them down changes nothing. That, and the inevitable escalation which has already started.
You should be concerned about the backlash. Even the NYT has come to understand that. But my experiences on this planet have shown me over and over that the left rarely considers the consequences of their actions. It's all based in feelings. Every harebrained idea is a "success" because it's judged on intentions no matter the cost, or in race relations, human life, etc.
Import illegal unskilled labor in enormous amounts and then when people are out of work demand increases in wages. Grow government to provide more and borrow heavily to pay for it. The result is a doubling of the national debt. Stupid, stupid shit. All driven by the feelings of people that have been taught they are really smart. We can't afford to humor you any longer.
But keep tearing those statues down. It's a great strategy to win elections going forward. It's 'winning'. Whatever you do, don't stop.
The idea that the two are somehow equivalent, while ignoring the history and political context, just seems to me a typical example of how Lib Dems don't really understand politics. (As if the 'coalition' years didn't demonstrate that all too well.)
Import illegal unskilled labor in enormous amounts and then when people are out of work demand increases in wages. Grow government to provide more and borrow heavily to pay for it. The result is a doubling of the national debt. Stupid, stupid shit. All driven by the feelings of people that have been taught they are really smart. We can't afford to humor you any longer.
I'm brushing up on my twatsprechen as we speak.oh damn, I already forgot!
Holy fuck are you stupid.
The far left has never been in control and if they ever were you'd see a society exclusive to their followers while everyone else, every single liberal and believer in the constitutional rights ostracized and condemned.
You have NO fucking idea what you are supporting here, I've tried to explain it but you are just too fucking "I'm on left, hurr, dey on left, durr, I support them" stupid to get the point that while you may embrace them now, they would happily throw you in jail for your ideas of individual liberties if they ever gained power.
Who gives a fuck about US history on the matter today, they sure as fuck don't, they just use it as an excuse to purport an anarcho-communist agenda that you for some reason pretend to support at the same time you pretend to be a liberal.
You can't be both, you are either pro individual liberty and against both the far left and the far right or you side with one of them, give up on the constitution, the bill of rights and all individual liberties.
Me? Call me a Nazi, call me a violent leftist, doesn't matter one fucking bit, I'm a liberal to the bone and I'll stand up for what has made the entirety of the western world a great place to live no matter what race or heritage you have and where we take care of our people and show empathy when times are hard.
Fuck the left right labels, be a liberal and stand up for what makes America great you fucking fool.
So much projection in this post.
Btw what does Jews will not replace us mean?
Agreed, the fringe of the far left is becoming less and less liberal while still donning the name. Silencing free speech seems to be en vogue and the justification is that "hate" speech shouldn't be allowed. The far left and right both come across as very totalitarian in the end, attempting to force their will come hell or high water. If you disagree with someone all you need to do is call them racist or Nazi's and out come the troops. Silencing opinions you disagree with isn't liberal at all.
Each side is steadfast is their resolve though, the other "side" viewed not even as another person with an opposing opinion but an enemy to be defeated. Hysteria has taken hold, and in such freedoms and liberties lost.
No, not agreed at all. Punching a Nazi wherever you find him is still the right thing to do and protesting them drowning out their hate speech is still the right thing to do.
No one denied anyone's free speech and while many have told me that I don't know what free speech is it seems that no Americans can even grasp the first thing about the concept, you are free to speak but people reacting to your speech is inevitable and if they choose to tell you that you are wrong or protest you then that is their right, freedom of assembly motherfucker, do you know it?
You are not a liberal, you don't even know what the word means.
No, not agreed at all. Punching a Nazi wherever you find him is still the right thing to do and protesting them drowning out their hate speech is still the right thing to do.