Read my post again. The sarcasm was real.
Antifa vs Nazis...I'll choose Antifa any day of the week
Antifa vs Anything Else.....I'll choose Anything Else
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Why not just go "nuh-uh" since that is all you're doing anyway.
99% of their actions have been at the G* meetings, what the fuck were they rioting about there? Was it benefits for the elderly?
Look, you want to be a kent and go walk with the shepherd then fine, ignore reality and make up your own but this "discussion" is now over.
I think that you are confusing Blac Bloc with antifa for some reason.
Considering that I don't know what the black bloc is but am very familiar with antifa (have been for a LONG time) that doesn't seem likely.
London antifa celebrate those who attack liberals and tories as well as G* summits and get imprisoned for it and while antifa doesn't have an international organization they do organize internationally to get people to these things.
Nazi groups do the same, of course. EDL had representation in Charlottesville.
I think that you are confusing Blac Bloc with antifa for some reason.
Antifa and the anticapitalists are different things.Considering that I don't know what the black bloc is but am very familiar with antifa (have been for a LONG time) that doesn't seem likely.
London antifa celebrate those who attack liberals and tories as well as G* summits and get imprisoned for it and while antifa doesn't have an international organization they do organize internationally to get people to these things.
Nazi groups do the same, of course. EDL had representation in Charlottesville.
While some of the antifa groups may well be active in the anti globalist movement it's not really their 'thing'. Black Bloc are the /biggest/most famous/hardest of the hard core anti-globalist types. They're the ones that do most of the physical damage and instigation.
Lots of people look at the "left" as a monolithic bloc but it's mostly lots of small organisations that have their own issues as a priority but have a general agreement about gross politics.That's a good point. I didn't realize I was doing this too. I thought they were the same thing.
Bollocks.Antifa is based around anarcho-communism, at least it is in Europe and if the US version is any different they have yet to even give an inkling towards that idea.
The G* summit attacks were absolutely antifa, they take responsibility for it on their various sites, blogs and facebook pages and celebrate their imprisoned comrades as heroes. https://londonantifascists.wordpress.com/
I don't think black bloc even exists in the UK.
Antifa and the anticapitalists are different things.
Now there well might be members of one that are also supportive of the other but that doesn't mean that they are the same thing.
Anti fascists are a single issue organisation. They are there to fight the good fight against fascism wherever it rears its head. You can be against that if you want but you'll be defending fascism then. It's your choice.
That's a good point. I didn't realize I was doing this too. I thought they were the same thing.
You're wrong, completely and utterly and totally wrong.
It amuses me that you are accusing me of defending fascism when I just told you that I'm anti-fascism as well as anti antifa and that in another thread I'm told I'm much too hard on fascists...
Weird.
So on the one hand you can be an anti fascist but believe in other political things but other people who are anti fascist have to be lumped into one organisation because you think that they are unsavoury fellows?
Antifa are anti-liberalism
No they aren't, they are simply anti fascist.
Well given that I used to know a lot of the black bloc that ran in London in the early 90s that you seem to think didn't exist I'll be happy to not worry about your opinion on this then.
There seems to be a political push to redefine "anti fascist" in the same way "liberal" or "socialist" has been redefined in the US.He's not interested.
He's not interested.
I'm not in denial of reality, I posted the link to antifa London but it seems that no one is bothering to read it.
I'd say that you have your minds made up and no amount of reality or what the group themselves has to say will change what you believe they are.
So your argument is that the black bloc that doesn't exist in London is the same thing as the Anti fascists and that anyone who is part of the Anti fascists is actually a fascist?You should also not follow that link and see what antifa (who have been around since before the 90's in London) are propagating for their comrades imprisoned for violence and rioting.
AFAIK Black Bloc ARE antifa London since they are the masked thugs that run around. It's not an organization, it's any group of people who play terrorist dress up like antifa does, isn't it?