In that you would both be incorrect. I acknowledge a deep & stubborn streak of racism on the Right that grades from nothing to well conditioned fear of the unknown to outright hatred. White Americans seem to have some sort of cultural weakness in that regard, one oft exploited by by well financed right wing politicians & think tanks whose real goals are winning the top down class warfare they've waged for nearly 40 years. It's the same with all other Repub wedge issues intended to divide the majority of Americans so that they can continue to rule, at least part of the time. Agent employs the same divisive tactics in a different way, otherizing people who aren't racist or not really very racist at all. You'll also notice that he deflects away from criticism of the people who finance the slick propaganda that's warped so many minds.
Trump emboldens the worst of them, no doubt, and that's what's really dangerous. It's been virulent in the past. I'm honestly encouraged by so many people rising up to confront them & their hatefulness, even Antifa. They need to be pushed back into their holes from time to time, and this is one of them. Taking down Jim Crow monuments goes beyond that, denies them the power symbols that help keep it alive. We should have done it back in the 60's, struck when the iron was hottest.
It would help your case more to come up with a counterargument instead of continuing to lie that I didn't link you comment before:
Entirely circular, simply because my comment you finally quoted does not support your so-called point in the slightest. Mocking the white supremacists for their feeble showing in Charlottesville in no way supports them. Quite the contrary.
You make more claims that you cannot back up. Why not answer the simple question?
The fact that you think all of the violence shown from the left is fake news from the media, and that violence from the right is real tells me a lot. Video evidence does not support your claim. Although not enough to tell me if you are simply trolling, really are that ignorant, or that you have some sort of learning problem.
I have already said that I think the guy driving into the car was wrong. In this thread and another. I dont think anyone on these forums said he was in the right. I did not say his behavior was acceptable.
Meanwhile, you still don't respond to simple questions I have asked you. So yeah, keep on acting and I will stop responding. Its not a threat, not a take my ball home thing, its that you are making accusations that I asked you to prove or explain and you do not. You make posts that are absolute fallacies, with proof that proves you wrong. You troll and insult, with nothing of substance. I just don't want to, and don't have to deal with it. Continue like you are, and I will.
Of course the capitalist-racist party isn't totally racist, but it's certainly more racist than their apologists will ever admit to no matter how many birtherism, mexican rapist, charlottesvilles, sheriff-joes, etc. Trump can talk about "detaining" minorities tomorrow on a stage with richard spencer, all the conservatives here can come to run interference for them, and Jhhnn and Jaskalas will still excuse them for fine people simply being tricked by the 1%. This is simply reality of the matter.
Careful there. You're getting close to acknowledging that leadership makes things happen, particularly charismatic leadership like Trump's. He stands on the shoulders of well financed propagandists of the lootocracy who've poisoned Americans' minds for decades, forces for whom racism is just one of many tools used to divide & conquer.
If we discredit the leadership we discredit the movement & it falls apart. If we tear down their power symbols that weakens them as well. Screaming about racist degens will merely divide us further.
The mexican-rapist/muslim-terrorist birther magnate wasn't the leadership's choice, but I'm sure you'll have more excuses for the racists no matter what. They can literally start rounding up minorities and building ovens, and you'll still be here carrying their water blaming the 1%.
Did every one know that Hitler worked for the 1%? No wonder the nazis were so bad.
Heh. I'm sure that Repub strategists were as surprised as much as anybody else by Trump's audacity. They kept it simmering for decades & now this damned fool comes & boils the pot over, making a big mess of everything.
How pissed off do you suppose the media and other idiots on the left are these days? Thanks to Trump's "many sides" comment, they're forced to cover and acknowledge the violent thugs on their side, and there's nothing they can do about it
Not everyone is born with a mental disability. Suck it up buttercup. May as well be a libtard.
Moral superiority? Well now, I must be a conservative.
There is no solace in this world. Take solace in that.
A group made up of predominantly African-Americans has called for Confederate statues in Dallas to remain standing – despite a nationwide push to remove similar markers after the deadly rally in Charlottesville.
“I’m not intimidated by Robert E. Lee’s statue. I’m not intimidated by it. It doesn’t scare me,” Sandra Crenshaw, a former city council member, told a local CBS affiliate. “We don’t want America to think that all African-Americans are supportive of this.”
In an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll released last week that asked Americans whether the monuments should “remain as a historical symbol” or “be removed because they are offensive to some people,” 67% of white respondents thought they should stay, as did 75% of whites who were not college graduates; 65% of Latinos were fine with keeping the statues, as were 44% of blacks.
It really is just going right over your head isn't it buddy. So here is a picture of a big mac.
Just remember no one actually gives a shit about some random person on the intwebs opinion*. You can have that advice for free.
*Except you of course you have to justify those nazis and yourself somehow.
How pissed off do you suppose the media and other idiots on the left are these days? Thanks to Trump's "many sides" comment, they're forced to cover and acknowledge the violent thugs on their side, and there's nothing they can do about it
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You're ridiculous. Fact is the right went full retard when a black guy was elected preside t. Continue with you're sanity check, it's really going well.When did I say that they are? The fact is that you're mocking someone born with a mental disability. Same as people mock others for being born with a skin color different from theirs. Its bigotry. You obviously don't care, and I am tired of explaining it to you.
I seem to recall many here being upset when they thought Trump mocked a retarded person during a speech. Yet many here mock retarded people all the time. Double standard, hypocritical, etc.
You and others here openly condone violence against all people going to a rally. Especially to those that support keeping confederate statues and monuments in place. You and others claim that everyone who does that, is a Nazi. When the term "Nazi" is very watered down today, and it overly used. Why don't you look up what they did, and compare. Or better yet, why don't you and others like you who want anyone at the rallies to be assaulted, explain why there are black people there to support keeping the confederate statues and monuments? According to you and them, they're Nazi's too. So they must think that whites are better than them, they must be racists and think that slavery should come back. I mean, that is what you and others are claiming of those who support keeping those things. Explain how some blacks want them kept, how polls show that. How there are groups fighting to keep them. I'm sure you have an answer.
http://nypost.com/2017/08/16/predominantly-black-group-fights-to-keep-confederate-statues-in-dallas/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...horrific-history-ellis-cose-column/584267001/
More blacks said to keep them, than to remove them. 44% to 40%, 11% were unsure. Surely they're Nazi too huh? That is what you and others are saying. Again, not all blacks want them removed. Some even go to rallies in support of keeping them. And again, you and others have claimed that anyone who does so is a Nazi. Please explain. I think I know the one answer that will come from you or another. The usual one, which is sad.
Its actually very far over your head. You flat out claim that any violence from the left shown in a video, or reported on by the media is fake news. That it never happened. That only violence from the right is real. Facts do not back this up. I have posted proof that you are wrong. You just keep digging the hole.
It is true that most people don't care about anyone else's random opinion on the internet. What you posted was factually incorrect. I didn't post opinion, I posted facts. You are wrong. Nobody else here is backing up your claim. You're all alone.
Once again I have never justified those who claim to be Nazi, or to have committed violence from the right side. Not once. Yet you keep saying I do. Again, more incorrect statements from you. You are wrong, proven by facts. And I am done with your nonsense.
Except they are being largely silent; http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-dire-warnings-about-right-wing-violence.html
Not that anyone will actually read that. They'll dismiss it as bullshit. Because they can't counter the points or facts in the article. Again, I would have used a CNN link... but you know. They didn't cover the violent assaults. When you know they would have been all over if it was the other way around. Like they have in the past. Everyone should be upset when either side suppresses free speech, and assaults the other at a protest. It is not ok no matter who does it. Yet that does not happen. Many are actually happy about it. They think that people deserve to die for how they cast their vote.
edit, jesus fucking Christ agent and jhhnn are annoying and ruining every damn thread going back and forth. Why don't you two take it to a pm or something. I feel like you two are posting 50% of the messages and worth putting you both on ignore.
Aren't watches anachronistic? I didn't realize people still wore them.
You watch waaaayy too much Fox News.When did I say that they are? The fact is that you're mocking someone born with a mental disability. Same as people mock others for being born with a skin color different from theirs. Its bigotry. You obviously don't care, and I am tired of explaining it to you.
I seem to recall many here being upset when they thought Trump mocked a retarded person during a speech. Yet many here mock retarded people all the time. Double standard, hypocritical, etc.
You and others here openly condone violence against all people going to a rally. Especially to those that support keeping confederate statues and monuments in place. You and others claim that everyone who does that, is a Nazi. When the term "Nazi" is very watered down today, and it overly used. Why don't you look up what they did, and compare. Or better yet, why don't you and others like you who want anyone at the rallies to be assaulted, explain why there are black people there to support keeping the confederate statues and monuments? According to you and them, they're Nazi's too. So they must think that whites are better than them, they must be racists and think that slavery should come back. I mean, that is what you and others are claiming of those who support keeping those things. Explain how some blacks want them kept, how polls show that. How there are groups fighting to keep them. I'm sure you have an answer.
http://nypost.com/2017/08/16/predominantly-black-group-fights-to-keep-confederate-statues-in-dallas/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...horrific-history-ellis-cose-column/584267001/
More blacks said to keep them, than to remove them. 44% to 40%, 11% were unsure. Surely they're Nazi too huh? That is what you and others are saying. Again, not all blacks want them removed. Some even go to rallies in support of keeping them. And again, you and others have claimed that anyone who does so is a Nazi. Please explain. I think I know the one answer that will come from you or another. The usual one, which is sad.
Its actually very far over your head. You flat out claim that any violence from the left shown in a video, or reported on by the media is fake news. That it never happened. That only violence from the right is real. Facts do not back this up. I have posted proof that you are wrong. You just keep digging the hole.
It is true that most people don't care about anyone else's random opinion on the internet. What you posted was factually incorrect. I didn't post opinion, I posted facts. You are wrong. Nobody else here is backing up your claim. You're all alone.
Once again I have never justified those who claim to be Nazi, or to have committed violence from the right side. Not once. Yet you keep saying I do. Again, more incorrect statements from you. You are wrong, proven by facts. And I am done with your nonsense.
Except they are being largely silent; http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-dire-warnings-about-right-wing-violence.html
Not that anyone will actually read that. They'll dismiss it as bullshit. Because they can't counter the points or facts in the article. Again, I would have used a CNN link... but you know. They didn't cover the violent assaults. When you know they would have been all over if it was the other way around. Like they have in the past. Everyone should be upset when either side suppresses free speech, and assaults the other at a protest. It is not ok no matter who does it. Yet that does not happen. Many are actually happy about it. They think that people deserve to die for how they cast their vote.
edit, jesus fucking Christ agent and jhhnn are annoying and ruining every damn thread going back and forth. Why don't you two take it to a pm or something. I feel like you two are posting 50% of the messages and worth putting you both on ignore.
LOL, things just keep getting worse for the left's favorite violent thugs:
http://www.democraticleader.gov/newsroom/82917/
All thanks to Trump! Could things get any worse for these idiots?
Finally a left wing politician with some courage to speak out against the double standard.
I seem to recall many here being upset when they thought Trump mocked a retarded person during a speech. Yet many here mock retarded people all the time. Double standard, hypocritical, etc.
You're ridiculous. Fact is the right went full retard when a black guy was elected preside t. Continue with you're sanity check, it's really going well.
My continued use of the word in targeted towards ackmed since he made an issue out of it. The irony is he's on the right, and look who they just elected president. During the campaign liberals were constantly smeared as being snowflakes, cupcakes, buttercups, libtards, and overly PC. So ackmed just hasn't caught on yet, he's too busy with his sanity check about how terrible anti fascism is, and how the right is too good to be like that.Can't stress how much I hate getting into an argument about a complete side-issue, but I know with people with various mental impairments, and can't help but think how hurtful many would find that use of that word.
Besides, it's even letting the right off the hook. It wasn't a mental disability that caused the reaction from the tea-party types. It was a very different r-word.
Also, its true that its really hard to to talk about the US right without using words to do with mental health - like 'not playing with a full deck' or off-their-rockers. Just that for me certain words are too close to their clinical usage to accept.
You realise there are multiple problems with this sentence, right?
You're ridiculous. Fact is the right went full retard when a black guy was elected preside t. Continue with you're sanity check, it's really going well.
You watch waaaayy too much Fox News.
"Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts," Pelosi said in a statement. "The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted."