antisemitism in europe sky-rocketing because of flotilla raid...

[kylebisme]

I think you should do a little more research.

I figure that is because you've done very little research yourself, and don't realize I've done much, considering your utter lack of any substantive argument against what I've said.

 

[CanOWorms]

Fortunately it's no where near as bad as it is in places like India where one village attacks another over religion.

I don't understand how you can post that in a thread about anti-semitism in Europe. There is a lot of violence against religious minorities in Europe. Look at the original post of the thread.

Actually, I think that it's worse than many third world countries. Their last genocide was in the 1990s and it dealt with religion. And many of the genocides in third world countries were organized or aided by European governments.

It's interesting how Europe nowadays has more third-world-like characteristics than third-world countries themselves!

 

[nick1985]

pretty simple.. you can only keep your BOOT ON THE THROAT of innocent people so long.. and then the world wants to boot you

lol hamas isnt innocent

 

[peonyu]

And who said attacks on israel does not foster hatred against jews in general?



http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=177501

jews are leaving sweden and norway, and french jews can't even wear their kippahs in public.

How can Europe demand justice when they can't even get over their historic bigotry against jews and religious minorities?

like to see the left rationalize this

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=177501

Lol....Its not native Europeans giving Jews a hard time nowadays, its the Arabs who are moving to Europe by the droves that are doing it. Europe is not called Eurabia for nothing, 20% of France's population is Arab-Muslim and a similar % are in other Western European countries [and growing].

If the media wasnt so PC and afraid to offend, it would call a duck a duck...the ones threatening to kill Jews are Arab-Muslims. Thats why they ask Jews to go home early, not out of fear of a neo-nazi [lol].

 

[kylebisme]

lol hamas isnt innocent

Sure, and neither is Likud, but plenty of Israels and Palestinians are.

 

[Red Dawn]

I don't understand how you can post that in a thread about anti-semitism in Europe. There is a lot of violence against religious minorities in Europe. Look at the original post of the thread.

Actually, I think that it's worse than many third world countries. Their last genocide was in the 1990s and it dealt with religion. And many of the genocides in third world countries were organized or aided by European governments.

It's interesting how Europe nowadays has more third-world-like characteristics than third-world countries themselves!

Could it be due to the fact that they are becoming inundated by those from the third world?

 

[kylebisme]

...20% of France's population is Arab-Muslim and a similar % are in other Western European countries [and growing].

Not even close.

 

[freegeeks]

Not even close.

it's around 10%

 

[kylebisme]

Could it be due to the fact that they are becoming inundated by those from the third world?

By what statistics do you justify your use of the term "inundated"?

Also, have you seen my more recent PM to you?

 

[kylebisme]

it's around 10%

Yeah, in France anyway based on the figures I've seen, with most Western European nations being notably less.

 

[CanOWorms]

Could it be due to the fact that they are becoming inundated by those from the third world?

I doubt it. Those populations are grossly exaggerated. In addition, the last genocide did not involve recent, third world immigrants.

Assuming what you say is true, could it be said that those from the third world were inundated with those types of beliefs when colonized?

 

[CanOWorms]

Lol....Its not native Europeans giving Jews a hard time nowadays, its the Arabs who are moving to Europe by the droves that are doing it. Europe is not called Eurabia for nothing, 20% of France's population is Arab-Muslim and a similar % are in other Western European countries [and growing].

If the media wasnt so PC and afraid to offend, it would call a duck a duck...the ones threatening to kill Jews are Arab-Muslims. Thats why they ask Jews to go home early, not out of fear of a neo-nazi [lol].

Despite that the 20% statistic is incorrect, what would be wrong with 20% of France's population being Muslim? They wanted Algeria as one of their domestic states. If that happened, they would have been 33% Muslim.

 

[freegeeks]

Lol....Its not native Europeans giving Jews a hard time nowadays, its the Arabs who are moving to Europe by the droves that are doing it. Europe is not called Eurabia for nothing, 20% of France's population is Arab-Muslim and a similar % are in other Western European countries [and growing].

If the media wasnt so PC and afraid to offend, it would call a duck a duck...the ones threatening to kill Jews are Arab-Muslims. Thats why they ask Jews to go home early, not out of fear of a neo-nazi [lol].

ssshhhhhttt, don't tell the truth

The situation in Belgium is very clear, 99% of anisemitism in Belgium is committed by North-African immigrants, especially the Moroccan immigrants. We have 2 Muslim populations, Turkish and Moroccans. The Turkish immigrants are far better integrated then the Moroccans. It probably has something to do with the fact that our Turkish immigrants are coming from a country that is essential secular.

 

[freegeeks]

Despite that the 20% statistic is incorrect, what would be wrong with 20% of France's population being Muslim? They wanted Algeria as one of their domestic states. If that happened, they would have been 33% Muslim.

There is nothing wrong with that, but the fact still remains that antisemitism in Europe is committed by large by the Muslim population or are you denying that?

 

[freegeeks]

I doubt it. Those populations are grossly exaggerated. In addition, the last genocide did not involve recent, third world immigrants.

Assuming what you say is true, could it be said that those from the third world were inundated with those types of beliefs when colonized?

LOL, I think in 1000 years you will still blame everything on colonization. Get over it, most of these countries have been decolonized for over 60 years now. How long are you still going to blame everything on colonization?

 

[Red Dawn]

Also, have you seen my more recent PM to you?

Yes I did, no I won't

 

[peonyu]

Yeah, in France anyway based on the figures I've seen, with most Western European nations being notably less.

France doesnt ask your race or religion in its census. They also count anyone born in France as being a bona-fide Frenchman in thier census [regardless of race/religion]. So there is no accurate way to determine how many Muslims are in France, however im sure its more than 10%. If you go solely by thier census, less than 10% of thier population are foreign born since they do ask that question on thier census.

 

[peonyu]

LOL, I think in 1000 years you will still blame everything on colonization. Get over it, most of these countries have been decolonized for over 60 years now. How long are you still going to blame everything on colonization?

In 1000 years Europe will be screaming Alla Akbar at the infidels. At current rates it wont even take 100 years to make this happen. /putsantiflamesuiton

 

[Noobtastic]

There is nothing wrong with that, but the fact still remains that antisemitism in Europe is committed by large by the Muslim population or are you denying that?

the antisemitism in europe is being committed mostly by arab-muslims with the tacit approval of the european leadership.

in USA, even the most extreme leftist wouldn't tolerate the level of bigotry that is considered a legitimate political philosophy in the media, academics, etc...

virtually all of the arab-antisemitism is of european origin, so for many it's like looking in a mirror, which is why they have responded so well to the rising levels of antisemitism with more demonization of israel and european jews (accusing them of being part of a zionist conspiracy, i see that shit all the time in the guardian and new statesman).

the leftists have married the islamists. the islamists vote in the leftists, and the leftists tow their line.

30% of malmo's jewish population has emigrated to stockholm because of antisemitism.

JEWS OF EUROPE ARE LEAVING THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF HATRED.

How does this not bother anyone?

 

[Lemon law]

First of all, let us let go of certain myths.

If we listen to the Jews, they try to sell us the myth that only they were the victims of Hitler hate, when Hitler was in fact and equal opportunity bigot and did much of the same things to Gypsies, Slavs and many other minorities.

But Europeans who imported large numbers of Muslims to do their dirty work when their economies were booming, quite actively discriminate against their Muslims minorities then and now. Its especially bad for Turks in Germany now.

But its somewhat the natural results of bigotry the world over, especially when skin color makes the selection visually easy. Religious tolerance is only one factor, but pair religion with economic discrimination and the issue becomes both socially corrosive and explosive in any society. Especially when young people growing up spend their first 20 years of life being the undeniable victims of bigotry.

And maybe what is really rotten in Europe, is when the bigger Muslim minority finds they can't ever be first class citizens in a land they were imported into, they can take some small solace in making some even smaller minority into third class citizens.

Its a rotten piece of human nature none of us can or should condone, but we can at least understand, if we condone any bigotry in any form, what goes around, may come back on us.

And I find it quite amazing that pro Israeli fab clubbers are super quick to condemn European antisemitism, but are seeming absolutely clueless, that when the Nation of Israel engages in its long standing policy of systematically brutalizing its Palestinian captives, that some of that Israeli brutality will unfairly but inevitably fall on Jews living in other nations.

 

[peonyu]

the antisemitism in europe is being committed mostly by arab-muslims with the tacit approval of the european leadership.

in USA, even the most extreme leftist wouldn't tolerate the level of bigotry that is considered a legitimate political philosophy in the media, academics, etc...

virtually all of the arab-antisemitism is of european origin, so for many it's like looking in a mirror, which is why they have responded so well to the rising levels of antisemitism with more demonization of israel and european jews (accusing them of being part of a zionist conspiracy, i see that shit all the time in the guardian and new statesman).

the leftists have married the islamists. the islamists vote in the leftists, and the leftists tow their line.

30% of malmo's jewish population has emigrated to stockholm because of antisemitism.

JEWS OF EUROPE ARE LEAVING THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF HATRED.

How does this not bother anyone?

Jews were being hacked to death, butchered and forced to move out of Muslim countries since the day Islam was founded...So how exactly is anti-semitism a European creation ? Its not. Its just easy to blame whitey for it [which is what your doing by saying its a European creation]. Thats not to say Europeans were fuzzy bunnies to Jewish people in the past, obviously they were not. But the crimes against Jews were being commited as often in the Arab world as it was in the Christian world in the middle ages.

Also, Muhammed himself slaughtered entire Jewish tribes...those are written as plain as day in the Koran [The Banu Qurayzah Jewish tribe, he personally ordered each and every one of them killed].

 

[flavio]

IThere is a lot of violence against religious minorities in Europe. Look at the original post of the thread.

There is no violence against religion in the original post of the thread.

 

[Noobtastic]

Jews were being hacked to death, butchered and forced to move out of Muslim countries since the day Islam was founded...So how exactly is anti-semitism a European creation ? Its not. Its just easy to blame whitey for it [which is what your doing by saying its a European creation]. Thats not to say Europeans were fuzzy bunnies to Jewish people in the past, obviously they were not. But the crimes against Jews were being commited as often in the Arab world as it was in the Christian world in the middle ages.

Also, Muhammed himself slaughtered entire Jewish tribes...those are written as plain as day in the Koran [The Banu Qurayzah Jewish tribe, he personally ordered each and every one of them killed].

the antisemitism in europe is european antisemitism (dual citizens, jewish conspiracy, etc...)

the british imported the protocols into palestine during their occupation.

islamic antisemitism prior to colonialism was more or less consistent with islam's treatment of other religious and ethnic minorities. jews of course were attacked the most on a per capita basis, but the hindus and christians really got fucked in the end.

 

[William Gaatjes]

ssshhhhhttt, don't tell the truth

The situation in Belgium is very clear, 99% of anisemitism in Belgium is committed by North-African immigrants, especially the Moroccan immigrants. We have 2 Muslim populations, Turkish and Moroccans. The Turkish immigrants are far better integrated then the Moroccans. It probably has something to do with the fact that our Turkish immigrants are coming from a country that is essential secular.

It is true that in the country where i live, the rare few people who are Turkish and have a criminal background are mostly "common" criminals. While the criminals who commit crimes with a racist or religious motive are primary children of Moroccan immigrants. Again it seems cultural clash is the true problem. It seems that from cultural point of view, the Turkish people are just people who know that in order to have luxury there has to hard work first, which can be seen by the many shops Turkish people have opened and in trade or restaurants. In their culture this point of view is normal. However, it is rare but some more religious Turkish families have performed violence against daughters because of family honour. According to some Morrocan people of arabic descent, the morrocan people who cause the problems are of berber descent also known as the free people. I do not know if that is true, though.

 

[Murloc]

Their last genocide was in the 1990s and it dealt with religion.

are you american or what?
maybe you are used to speak english and see almost the same culture all over the continent.
In europe you get in a different culture just by taking your car and drive for a while.

You can't say that the last european genocide was in the 1990s.
The religious problems were internal in the ex-yugoslavland that broke up into pieces.
It's not like spanish people killed muslims or stuff like that, it was the local people that did this.

If all europe was so homogenic it would be much easier to make a working european union.