antisemitism in europe sky-rocketing because of flotilla raid...

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flavio

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Jews were being hacked to death, butchered and forced to move out of Muslim countries since the day Islam was founded...So how exactly is anti-semitism a European creation ? Its not. Its just easy to blame whitey for it [which is what your doing by saying its a European creation]. Thats not to say Europeans were fuzzy bunnies to Jewish people in the past, obviously they were not. But the crimes against Jews were being commited as often in the Arab world as it was in the Christian world in the middle ages.

Also, Muhammed himself slaughtered entire Jewish tribes...those are written as plain as day in the Koran [The Banu Qurayzah Jewish tribe, he personally ordered each and every one of them killed].

Jews have historically never done anything wrong to anyone is what you're trying to say here? LOL.
 

CanOWorms

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There is nothing wrong with that, but the fact still remains that antisemitism in Europe is committed by large by the Muslim population or are you denying that?

Yes, many do participate in it. I guess you can say that they're assimilating into the population!
 

CanOWorms

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LOL, I think in 1000 years you will still blame everything on colonization. Get over it, most of these countries have been decolonized for over 60 years now. How long are you still going to blame everything on colonization?

It would be pretty cool if I was around in 1000 years!
 

CanOWorms

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are you american or what?
maybe you are used to speak english and see almost the same culture all over the continent.
In europe you get in a different culture just by taking your car and drive for a while.

Perceptions on culture are very subjective. For example, perhaps another country or continent is all the same to you. European cultures are all very similar to me.

You can't say that the last european genocide was in the 1990s.

Yes, I can. There was a genocide in Europe in the 1990s. How can you deny it?

The religious problems were internal in the ex-yugoslavland that broke up into pieces.
It's not like spanish people killed muslims or stuff like that, it was the local people that did this.

So? It was a genocide. Religious minorities were among groups slaughtered.

If all europe was so homogenic it would be much easier to make a working european union.

Europeans look for the slightest difference and find fault in that difference. It's really sad. Different religion? Die. Different language? Die. Different "culture?" Die. Different skin color? Die. Different food? Die. Different name? Die.

When does it end? The world shouldn't stand by and let another genocide happen.
 

CanOWorms

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Nope, no violence. Just protests.

Once again IHV has confused "antisemitism" with "disagreeing with Israel".

The post says that the police feared violence. Given the recent history of violent French and European protests, international peacekeepers should be brought in... especially so because it is a minority group.
 
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Noobtastic

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Nope, no violence. Just protests.

Once again IHV has confused "antisemitism" with "disagreeing with Israel".

"disagreeing with israel" is used as a mask for anti-jewish propaganda.

there is a strong cooreleration between hatred of israel and hatred of jews.

i disagree with israel, i disagree with the USA, i disagree with russia, china, etc.

but i do not hate.

those who hate israel are a totally unique breed of bigots, and i just love how they devote so much time trying to prove they aren't biased little race-baiting trolls and instead are all about human rights blah blah blah.

europe is an antisemitic cesspool and jews are speaking up. you aren't fooling anyone with your gaming semantics.
 

piasabird

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The truth is that the people in Europe just found a reason to voice their hatred of Isreal. If they were not already anti-semetic, then they would not be that vocal. Racists do not become racists overnight; it is a learned skill. Cultural hatred seems almost common in some parts of Europe. Is it just a coincidence that Europe has become overrun with cheap muslim (sometimes militant) labor. Maybe it is easier to attack jews than it is to stand up against the muslim militants.

You have to learn to think for yourselves and to pick up on what is really going on.
 

DaFinn

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As a European, I want to correct this a bit.

Us "original" Europeans are not the ones demonstrating against Israel. Most europeans are rational, and not religious "enough" to go with a feeling. We wait for information and facts to make up our minds.

If we look at the demonstrations held here, and look at the pictures, wast majority is muslims living in Europe. Yes, we have a large muslim miniority, France especially.
Sweden is another "hot spot" for muslims. Yes, most of them live here, and are "Europeans" holding EU passports. No objection to that. But still "European" most often refers to original European people, and they are not the one demonstrating here. Looking at the pictures from various demonstrations, I fail to see any "European" faces there.

These "anti-semitism" polls should be taken with a grain of salt. We may not exactly love Israel/Jews, but in general we love Hamas/extremist muslims even less.
 

kylebisme

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Looking at the pictures from various demonstrations, I fail to see any "European" faces there.
I've looked at videos like this, and see a wide mix of Europeans demonstrating, including many Caucasians. I also looked at the the people in the Free Gaza Movement see many Caucasian names. What have you been looking at?

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LookingThese "anti-semitism" polls should be taken with a grain of salt.
What polls are you refering to? And do you have numbers for anti-Arab bigorty too? Best I can tell; the EU has far more of that, as does the US.
 
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DaFinn

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I've looked at videos like this, and see a wide mix of Europeans demonstrating, including many Caucasians. I also looked at the the people in the Free Gaza Movement see many Caucasian names. What have you been looking at?

Also:


What polls are you refering to? And do you have numbers for anti-Arab bigorty too? Best I can tell; the EU has far more of that, as does the US.

Some minor corrections "I fail to see any European faces" should have said "I fail to see many European faces".

Free Gaza movement is a peace organisation, and ok in my books (untill proven otherwise). Yes there are many European members. All left wing activists.

Anti-Arab feelings are largely due to their "incompatability" to European way of life and legislation. And the fact they are not willing to even try. If somebody wants to come and live in my country, why should we change our ways and laws to fit their views? This is by some referred to as bigotry?

As an example, we just had a case where muslim family brought a lamb to their apartment and TRIED to make a ritual slaughter in their bathroom. Things got out of hand, lamb escaped spilling blood all over apartment building. Police arrested the guy for several violations of our law/regulations (=ritual slaughters are forbidden, bringing farm animals to apartments are forbidden, animal cruelty is forbidden, etc etc...) Guy was charged for cruelty to animals -> Islam community raises hell for us being biggots and treating them wrong. Its "small" things like this, where our worlds usually collide. Now they are wanting ritual slaughters to be ok in our legislations. Why should we accept this? And this is just a small example, there are hundreds of others.
 

kylebisme

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If somebody wants to come and live in my country, why should we change our ways and laws to fit their views? This is by some referred to as bigotry?
It is when one conflates the people who want to slaughter lambs in their bathtubs with other Muslims who have no interest in anything of the sort. In regard to that issue in particular, most Muslims agree it's fine to shock livestock enough to knock them out, and then do the ritual slaughters without causing undue pain to the animals. Surely there's no rational argument to outlaw that?

Also, some video of a peace rally in Tel Aviv, apparently over 20,000 participants. Yeah, they are obviously engaging in activism, and can of course be dismissed as being to the "left" of anyone who disagrees with them, but you might see your "many European faces" there depending on how you define that, and you sure as hell can't dismiss them as bigots.
 
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Noobtastic

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Also, some video of a peace rally in Tel Aviv, apparently over 20,000 participants. Yeah, they are obviously engaging in activism, and can of course be dismissed as being to the "left" of anyone who disagrees with them, but you might see your "many European faces" there depending on how you define that, and you sure as hell can't dismiss them as bigo

yes, peace-rally, those who support hamas and arab's POV towards israel and deny its right to live without terrorism.

naturally of course no one protests the arab's policies towards palestinian terrorism, and hamas' policies towards their own enemies.

throwing opponents of buildings? executing them in the back of the head? burning them in trees?

eh...israel propaganda.
 

kylebisme

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eh...israel propaganda.
That's all your posts ever are, Israeli establishment propaganda, which leaves full of flagrant distortions and outright lies, like your absurd attempt to slander the many Israeli Jews who don't share your hatred of Arabs.
 

Noobtastic

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That's all your posts ever are, Israeli establishment propaganda, which leaves full of flagrant distortions and outright lies, like your absurd attempt to slander the many Israeli Jews who don't share your hatred for Arabs.

blah blah blah, majority of israeli arabs don't support homicidal palestinians.

just a fringe, vocal minority accusing anyone who disagrees with them as "propagandists" and "agents of israel."

and no, i do not hate arabs. arabs hate themselves, and they have the death toll to prove it. israel is the most pro-arab country in the ME.
 

Nik

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One of my best friends lives in Israel. She says Israel is one of the most racist countries in the world.
 

kylebisme

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...majority of israeli arabs don't support homicidal palestinians.
Of course they don't, those who support a two-state solution on the basis of international law included, and many Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs support that too. On the other hand, many Zionists do support homicidal Israelis, you being one obvious example.

One of my best friends lives in Israel. She says Israel is one of the most racist countries in the world.
That it is, as is evidenced by the fact that the establishment there radiated tens of thousands of North African and Middle Eastern Jewishs children in deranged "medical" experiments. Furthermore, while they haven't done anything so horrific to their fellow Jews since then, one only has to look at what they do to Palestinians to see what they are capable of.
 
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Noobtastic

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Of course they don't, those who support a two-state solution on the basis of international law included, and many Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs support that too. On the other hand, many Zionists do support homicidal Israelis, you being one obvious example.

"international law" has nothing to do with creation of independent states.

you don't even know what international law is.

is suicide bombing sanctioned by international law? shooting rockets a violation of international law?

"zionists" do more for their enemies than their enemies do for each other.

the arabs and muslims spend more money waxing their bentleys and buying out british universities than to the palestinians.

israel was the only country to support an independent palestine. arab states did not create a palestinian state even though they controlled jerusalem, west bank and gaza for 20 years.

WHY?
 

zsdersw

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There's only one time in the future at which the Middle East will calm down: when the oil runs out.

The puppeteers' vested interest in the security and stability of the region will vanish and there will be little incentive to keep them all from blowing each other up... and the rest of the world will be better off for it.
 
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kylebisme

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I'm hopping the puppets will shake off their strings before that, but the seem happy to dance along.
 
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