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Ettitt

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I suggest you to use Bitdefender. If you want to use something else, then I suggest you to take a look on SafeBytes. I have been using this antivirus for more than three months. Happy with its performance.
 

MongGrel

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I just still use Win 10 build 14291 and Windows Defender myself.

Have a few other programs I run now and then for cleanup, Malewarebytes and a Defrag program I still use for just the HDD's

Use NoScript and Adblock Ultimate at the moment while cruising around on Firefox 45.0.1
 
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nerp

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None. Use Windows' built in tools. Don't make your computer run like it has a virus in order to prevent one that won't get prevented by software anyway.
 

Mem

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None. Use Windows' built in tools. Don't make your computer run like it has a virus in order to prevent one that won't get prevented by software anyway.


I think you'll find a lot of third party AVs actually run lighter then built-in Defender, now considering some are free, better detection rate and lighter on resources then Defender, no brainer really.

Don't believe me? Then look here http://www.av-comparatives.org/performance-tests/

Over 10 AVs there better on performance then Defender in the chart.

Btw 16.2% is pretty high hit for Defender in that chart, now look at Avast and Avira way down below 3%.
 
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coffeemonster

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My vote would be no active scanner. Find a well reviewed AV program that can be fired up and updated only when you want to do a system scan. I think the always running active scanners are a waste of resources if you are a savvy web surfer.
 

Magic Carpet

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My vote would be no active scanner. Find a well reviewed AV program that can be fired up and updated only when you want to do a system scan. I think the always running active scanners are a waste of resources if you are a savvy web surfer.
I'd agree with that, although one must be a little bit technical savvy about these things. Having said that, always on can still be handy for/if removable media is present and frequently used like usb pens, etc.

I have used most of them. Can't say which is best 'right now', though. Things are changing fast. More reliant on common sense these days. I'd google, at least, a few recent articles or smth.

EDIT: Wouldn't rely on the built-in Windows Defender app too much, but it's better than nothing, I guess. VMs are good for exactly that reason, you can test anything without the fear of catching zero day malware. Common sense usage rules apply. I've had viruses and it's annoying as hell because I thought my AV protection was good enough. Nada! No such thing exists, but multi-layered protection helps a lot.
 
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stockwiz

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seems like avira is the most secure and fast based on all the review sites. With the built in registry modification and autorun protection it's about as secure as they come, if you can deal with the little popup window every day. It remains to be seen if I'll keep using it. I don't really need an antivirus I use them if they are free and good.

When I try to block the ipmgui program with the local security policy windows pops up windows that the program was blocked all the time which is even worse.
 

Ryland

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I use Avast on my machines and stay away from MS's free antivirus because its the only one I have ever been infected while using.
 

AndreM

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ESET NOD32 have worked nice for me for many many years, good with the gaming mode so nothing disturbs you in fullscreen.
 

BonzaiDuck

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My experience says stay away from Norton. Once it was the best, then they bloated it up, and now it is said to work OK. It expires once a year and stops. That's no good if the operator ignores it.
Get a free A/V that does not expire. The free ones I'm familiar with are Bitdefender, Avira, AVG, Panda, and Avast. I can tell you that Bitdefender keeps working without interruption once activated by signing in once.


Jim

I'd posted the question in a new thread, but I'll ask your opinion here.

What's wrong with Windows Defender and Windows Firewall in Windows 10?

I had troubles with McAfee in 2003 and then with Symantec-Norton as a replacement. That was more than a decade ago, finding out that you can't just uninstall Norton without using some "tool" to fix your registries and purge the pieces of Norton on your hard disk. Even installed properly, it would hog clock-cycles. Maybe they'd fixed it after I stopped using it, but I'd still pick KIS if I wanted to pay for an annual license to an AV/Firewall.

Also, the latest KIS seems to commandeer Windows Firewall, as opposed to installing something completely different. But even if I have 265 days left on my 5-PC KIS 2016 license, why should I install it for my fifth PC (a laptop) if Windows Defender provides the same security? I guess that's a question within a question, isn't it?
 

mikeymikec

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What's wrong with Windows Defender and Windows Firewall in Windows 10?

A lot of people have their knickers in a twist over using Windows Defender / MSE because sites such as av-test.org rate it poorly, and because such people don't bother to even do a cursory check of how those websites allocate scores, they think exactly what the authors of such sites want them to.

Throw in a few "product X turned me into a newt!" stories and that's how many people decide how good a given product is.
 

John Connor

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M$ themselves say that MSE is a baseline scanner and should be used with a real anti-virus.

And I have read many posts on forums of people having to remove malware from computers running MSE.

You want a fairly good setup?

Bitdefender Free

Use Sandboxie for your browser. Use Sandboxie's forum. Learn it!

No anti-virus sofware is 100% effective. Especially with zero day exploits and ransomware.

I would also scan downloads at virustotal.

Never use an auto install. Always chose manual so you can opt out of any opencandy crap.

You can take it up a notch and use software like Voodoo shield or Comodo Firewall and crank the HIPS up.

Extra points if you use A Firefox-based browser and use NoScrip with base 2nd level domains allowed by default. It will be a PITA! I manage though.
 

mikeymikec

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M$ themselves say that MSE is a baseline scanner and should be used with a real anti-virus.

Citation needed, partly because this makes no sense; there isn't a single AV maker out there that recommends coupling their AV with another AV product.

Here's what I found when I tried to find information regarding your assertion:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/security-essentials-download
Comprehensive malware protection
The word 'comprehensive' tends to fly in the face of your claim, and surely if what you assert was MS's recommendation, then it would be right next to the official download link?

Furthermore:
http://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-se...r-only-baseline-protection-for-windows-users/
“Baseline does not equal bad,” she said. “We provide a high-quality, high-performing service to our customers and if they choose not to buy [antivirus] on Windows 8… we want to get those people protected.”

Here is the only page I've found that says what you said:
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-security-essentials-provides-baseline-protection

Holly Stewart, senior program manager of the Microsoft Malware Protection Center, has told Dennis Technology Labs in an interview that Security Essentials is intended to provide "baseline" protection and recommended that users install an anti-virus on top of it for better security from advanced threats.

Stewart said,

"It’s not as efficient to have one kind of weapon. Like anything you must have that diversity. It’s a weakness to just have one."

Two points: a) where is the quote regarding the "anti-virus on top" because what they're saying she said and the quote of what she said does not evenly vaguely equal the same thing, and b) the PC Pro article that this one uses as a source does not even mention the word 'baseline'.

And I have read many posts on forums of people having to remove malware from computers running MSE.

Two points here: And you haven't read many posts on forums from people asking how to remove malware from computers running other security products? Really? Second, if there is only one truly free product (ie. free to begin with as well as one that does not try to sell you something), and it comes with Win8x and Win10, it is a stretch of your imagination to expect it to be a more popular choice than alternatives (and so therefore when people report malware problems, they're more likely to be running the most popular product)?
 
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Ketchup

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I have removed viruses from computers running Norton, McAfee, Avast, and others I am forgetting. The point? People who click on anything on the web will get a virus, because virus scanners don't catch this stuff. What they do catch is things that have been allowed to linger. What's wrong with that? The virus has time to spread, and invite its friends. And that's assuming the user runs manual scans, and/or doesn't stop the AV from scheduled scans because it is slowing down their computer.

It doesn't matter what AV you run. Just be smart when you're surfing. If you want protection, install an ad-blocker.
 

John Connor

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Citation needed, partly because this makes no sense; there isn't a single AV maker out there that recommends coupling their AV with another AV product.

Here's what I found when I tried to find information regarding your assertion:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/security-essentials-download

The word 'comprehensive' tends to fly in the face of your claim, and surely if what you assert was MS's recommendation, then it would be right next to the official download link?

Furthermore:
http://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-se...r-only-baseline-protection-for-windows-users/


Here is the only page I've found that says what you said:
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-security-essentials-provides-baseline-protection



Two points: a) where is the quote regarding the "anti-virus on top" because what they're saying she said and the quote of what she said does not evenly vaguely equal the same thing, and b) the PC Pro article that this one uses as a source does not even mention the word 'baseline'.



Two points here: And you haven't read many posts on forums from people asking how to remove malware from computers running other security products? Really? Second, if there is only one truly free product (ie. free to begin with as well as one that does not try to sell you something), and it comes with Win8x and Win10, it is a stretch of your imagination to expect it to be a more popular choice than alternatives (and so therefore when people report malware problems, they're more likely to be running the most popular product)?


Lets put it this way. Would you let a company that has a product with more holes than swiss cheese protect you on the Internet?
 

John Connor

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LOL You already did the damn research!

Holly Stewart, senior program manager of the Microsoft Malware Protection Center, has told Dennis Technology Labs in an interview that Security Essentials is intended to provide "baseline" protection and recommended that users install an anti-virus on top of it for better security from advanced threats.

It's not an "assertion" It's FACT!
 

mikeymikec

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LOL You already did the damn research!

It's not an "assertion" It's FACT!

Please, promise me something: The next time you read a news article along the lines of "research shows that eating pizza helps prevent cancer", you'll actually look for the quote from the researcher and/or their report, rather than the explanation from the journalist of what they thought the researcher was referring to (due to ineptitude and/or a desire for a sensationalist article)?

Helpful rule of thumb: If it has quotation marks around it, it's meant to be what the person actually said or wrote. If it doesn't have quotation marks around it, it's probably an interpretation of what was said on the part of the journalist.
 
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Magic Carpet

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BonzaiDuck,

There was keylogger software (think it was Elite Keylogger) that wasn't properly detected by Windows Defender (I've had situations). That was the case a couple of years ago, things may have improved. Haven't followed it since. But generally, I rate it the worst, but maybe it's become good enough today. It's best to use multi-layered protection, starting from yourself / people around you.

I really like Avast.
And remember, words like these mean not a lot. Find a more serious source.
 
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susti

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Bitdefender is good antivirus and I am using this av for 6 month and happy
 
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