Antivirus with Malwarebytes

CRV

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I am looking for a excellent antivirus that will work well with Malwarebytes Pro. I was thinking Webroot or Kaspersky. Which one should I go for and why? If any other suggestions, let me know.
 

LPCTech

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If you want your pc to run slow and not really have that much virus protection cuz most malware is based on user interaction. Run 2 AVs together. That will do it.

Malwarebytes likes to say that its program will run alongside another AV(antivirus), this is just to get you to buy it so you think you have "double protection".

Antivirus in general in 2016 is mostly a scam. (the kind that keeps malware out, malware REMOVAL is not a scam)Most malware gets on your pc cuz you clicked on something, or downloaded and installed something.

No antivirus will stop a user from installing pups and malicious "programs" that turn out to be malware.

Some people on here will tell you its fine to have MBAM and another AV running at the same time. I think its a foolish waste of processing power and ram. But thats just my opinion.

What I do. Is have a free antivirus in the background
and have the free version of malwarebytes ON the pc but NOT in pro mode and NOT running in the background. Just to run on demand to scan when i want.

If you are PAYING for an antivirus, AND paying for MBAM(malwarebytes anti-malware) at the same time, you are getting taken for a ride.

You are paying double for a slowed down pc thats no more safe than if you just had one free AV.

Again, this is just my personal (but educated) opinion. You do you.
 
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SergeyGor

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Russian anti-virus company Doctor Web has released its next-generation product — the Dr.Web Katana, which is designed to protect against new threats that your anti-virus is not yet equipped to recognize. The new anti-virus Dr.Web Katana is based on proactive technologies that do not involve the use of virus databases: the decision as to whether a particular malware program should be neutralised is made only on the basis of a mining model of the behaviour of the applications running on a computer. https://news.drweb.com/show/?i=9710&lng=en
 

Ketchup

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I have been on infected computers where an AV has caught things as they are accessed, but I have never had an antimalware (such as Malwarebytes) catch anything until I did a scan.

Kaspersky is consistently one of the best, and I would not hesitate to recommend it if you are comfortable with a good paid-for AV.

It will not interfere with Malwarebytes. I like to keep it out of startup and run it every-so-often, but that is totally your call.
 

CRV

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I have been on infected computers where an AV has caught things as they are accessed, but I have never had an antimalware (such as Malwarebytes) catch anything until I did a scan.

Kaspersky is consistently one of the best, and I would not hesitate to recommend it if you are comfortable with a good paid-for AV.

It will not interfere with Malwarebytes. I like to keep it out of startup and run it every-so-often, but that is totally your call.

The only thing that I read about Kaspersky, is that it takes up a lot of space, plus it tends to block some user's programs etc.So that is why I'm iffy about it.
 

CRV

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If you want your pc to run slow and not really have that much virus protection cuz most malware is based on user interaction. Run 2 AVs together. That will do it.

Malwarebytes likes to say that its program will run alongside another AV(antivirus), this is just to get you to buy it so you think you have "double protection".

Antivirus in general in 2016 is mostly a scam. (the kind that keeps malware out, malware REMOVAL is not a scam)Most malware gets on your pc cuz you clicked on something, or downloaded and installed something.

No antivirus will stop a user from installing pups and malicious "programs" that turn out to be malware.

Some people on here will tell you its fine to have MBAM and another AV running at the same time. I think its a foolish waste of processing power and ram. But thats just my opinion.

What I do. Is have a free antivirus in the background
and have the free version of malwarebytes ON the pc but NOT in pro mode and NOT running in the background. Just to run on demand to scan when i want.

If you are PAYING for an antivirus, AND paying for MBAM(malwarebytes anti-malware) at the same time, you are getting taken for a ride.

You are paying double for a slowed down pc thats no more safe than if you just had one free AV.

Again, this is just my personal (but educated) opinion. You do you.

I heard malwarebytes isn't an antivirus, but a antimalware. I am currently using the free version of Avast. C Cleaner, and Malwarebytes.
 

Ketchup

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The only thing that I read about Kaspersky, is that it takes up a lot of space, plus it tends to block some user's programs etc.So that is why I'm iffy about it.

Gotcha. The only thing I can tell you is that I ran the trial version for a month last year on the main desktop or our home and none of the apps/games that I/my wife/our kids ran had any issues.

I would recommend doing the same. If it doesn't work, just uninstall and try something else.
 

LPCTech

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Feel free to run whatever you want on your computer, its yours. But I contend that antivirus and antimalware is relatively useless in 2016.

Im not saying you should be unprotected but paying twice for double protection that doesnt really work that well against modern threats seems unwise to me. Not to mention the performance hit to your pc.

Here is avast and malwarebytes in action together. Please watch the whole thing. At around 14min into it they start scanning with mbam and avast free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVsUQ5cMo94

Its all about knowing what not to click on. Advanced malware can evade the current common antimalware/antivirus.

also..A virus is a kind of malware. So since most antivirus programs also say they protect against worms trojans etc., how is an "Anti-virus" different from an "Anti-malware"?

answer: its not, its a marketing term. and a way to get you to run both. MBAM knows people stubbornly like their Antivirus so they say, hey we arent an antivirus we are an ANTI-MALWARE you can run both. And you can, but you are running the same thing x2. its marketing.

http://lifehacker.com/the-difference-between-antivirus-and-anti-malware-and-1176942277

avast says they are an anti-malware.

from the link this is avast's statement when asked if they are an anti-malware:

Avast scans for and protects customers from all varieties of malware. Viruses were extremely “popular” in the ‘90s, which is when the term “Antivirus” became common, but today viruses are the minority when it comes to malware. There are, however, a few at-large viruses currently evolving and spreading, these include “Sality” and “Virut”. More common than viruses is malware like Trojans, Worms, Backdoors, Exploits, Adware, and PUP (Potentially Unwanted Programs), which can include communication clients, remote desktops and password revealers, just to name a few.

The focus of online criminals has shifted and therefore malware has changed. Criminals see today’s online society as an opportunity to steal personal data including credit card and banking details, pins and passwords, and information such as home addresses, phone numbers and even the names of family members. Criminals can, for example, write malicious code and distribute it in the form of a trojan. The trojan can collect personal data which can be sold to crime organizations who can then steal money directly from the victims bank account.

Avast’s immense user base consists of more than 184 million people worldwide, each of whom is connected to the Avast cloud, this allows each file execution to be analyzed online. As soon as malware is detected within the user base a close to real time update is sent to all users, providing almost immediate protection against all the newest malware.
 
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Ketchup

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You can run what you want, and safe browsing habits are always a good idea, but:
1. It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks
2. In today's world, it is not a good idea to assume that nothing is going to get past you. We are far beyond the days of only being connected to the Internet when we dialed in, and viruses only coming in by opening the wrong email or inserting a compromised floppy disk.

3. I have NEVER disinfected a compromised system where one software got rid of everything, and THAT is the main reason an antivirus program, no matter what is says on their web page, should be used in conjunction with a good anti-malware program. I have even had to disinfect a computer that had Avast already installed and "working." There has never been, and probably never will be, one perfect solution.

OP, let us know what you are trying and how it is working out.
 

balloonshark

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Most security programs have free trial periods. It's a good idea to try the software before you pay. Everyone's hardware, software and usage is different therefore conflicts can and do happen. Just be sure to uninstall the program as cleanly as you can and use any removal tools or procedures the company offers.
 

Captante

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Been using Norton Security and Malwarebytes together for quite awhile without issue. That said I also do regular full-system scans with several different Anti-malware programs and do most of my web-surfing in a sandboxed browser. (Via Sandboxie)
 

balloonshark

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Been using Norton Security and Malwarebytes together for quite awhile without issue. That said I also do regular full-system scans with several different Anti-malware programs and do most of my web-surfing in a sandboxed browser. (Via Sandboxie)
Once you surf sandboxed you don't go back :thumbsup:
 

MaryMe

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You'd probably should use some more advanced security software, like Norton Security Deluxe or McAfee LifeSafe. They are both lighter than Panda or Kaspersky and has more features.
 

LPCTech

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You'd probably should use some more advanced security software, like Norton Security Deluxe or McAfee LifeSafe. They are both lighter than Panda or Kaspersky and has more features.

Oh my god no. D:

They NOT in any way lighter.

They are not in any way better.

They are not more "advanced"

What causes you to think this?

They are the worst 2 antiviruses you can use imo.
 

Ketchup

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Oh my god no. D:

They NOT in any way lighter.

They are not in any way better.

They are not more "advanced"

What causes you to think this?

They are the worst 2 antiviruses you can use imo.

I agree. McAfree has NEVER had a product that was light or all that secure. Panda, while they have generally had a pretty light program over the years, consistently has the worst detection rates.
 

VirtualLarry

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Best Anti-virus == run Linux, not Windows?

As long as you're not a PC gamer, this is feasible for many, many people. Only that they've never given it a try. It's really simple, download an ISO from www.linuxmint.com , burn with the free ImgBurn program (which itself has OpenCandy, be careful installing it), and then boot off of it. Bingo! (Or use another free program, Rufus, to "burn" to a USB stick and boot off of that.)
 

KeithP

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Best Anti-virus == run Linux, not Windows?

As long as you're not a PC gamer, this is feasible for many, many people.

Even if you are a gamer, download VirtualBox and run Mint in a VM. I have it setup on my MacBook Pro and it works great.

It has always puzzled me a bit why using a virtual machine for security isn't more talked about. I guess it is too complex for those that are most susceptible to malware infection.

-KeithP
 

Captante

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Kaspersky is very effective detection-wise but the last time I used it (admittedly a few years ago) my system slowed down to the point where it became annoying and the firewall caused problems with multiple games. Also on customers machines it caused nothing but headaches. Mcafee is still fairly bad but Norton is very effective and yes , light on resources these days believe it or not.

As for Panda, most of the tests I've seen have rated them at worst mid-pack and in many cases near the top in detection. I'm not fond of the interface they use personally but otherwise you could do worse.


Even if you are a gamer, download VirtualBox and run Mint in a VM. I have it setup on my MacBook Pro and it works great.

It has always puzzled me a bit why using a virtual machine for security isn't more talked about. I guess it is too complex for those that are most susceptible to malware infection.

-KeithP


Two thumbs up for Virtual Box ... I use it myself all the time but unfortunately you are correct most of my customers can barely open a browser without calling for support and THEY define "those who are most susceptible" for the most part!
 
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sbpromania

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I'm using Avast as a full-time AV, and run periodical scans with Malwarebytes.

However, because it's better to prevent than to fix, a few addons such as NoScript and others go a long way.
 

Mushkins

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We run Kaspersky Endpoint Security 10 alongside Malwarebytes Pro in our domain. There was a minor conflict where Kaspersky was blocking Malwarebytes when we first installed, but adding the malwarebytes files to the whitelist fixed that.

To answer the OPs question instead of arguing about the value of AV, these two products work just fine together, and Malwarebytes *DOES* look for fundamentally different things than an antivirus product.
 

John Connor

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Definition based anti-virus in this day and age isn't 100% effective. I would use Sadndboxie for your browser in addition to an anti-virus. But allow access to the browser's profile folder at reduced security otherwise your addons and bookmarks won't stick. Also remember that to update the browser don't use Sandboxie otherwise the update won't stick.

Bitdefender Free is pretty good.
 
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