Anton Yelchin dead

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StrangerGuy

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I'm kind of weary on the backlash on this. The criticism is on how the shifter operates.
There seems to be multiple visual cues on what gear is engaged. I would think it would force people to focus more on what they are doing and naturally setting an environment where people visually check indicators rather than blindly operate a vehicle in a setting where visual cues are paramount and necessary for safety.
Then again, that is just me. I am not an ergonomic engineer or a behavior expert.

Currently there are no laws or even guidelines dictating automatic or semi-automatic shifters nor the order of the gear selection. PRNDL is just a standard because that's how traditional planetary gearsets operated for a long time.

People take things for granted. This is not criticism of Yelchin.

RIP, Anton Yelchin.

The transmission itself is irrelevant...People who don't use the parking/hand brake when safety demands it shouldn't have granted licenses and out there driving. It's not hard FFS.
 

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The old term "emergency brake" was eliminated by lawyers long ago.
Drive to neutral has always been a counterclockwise motion on a column shifter.
 

JEDI

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The transmission itself is irrelevant...People who don't use the parking/hand brake when safety demands it shouldn't have granted licenses and out there driving. It's not hard FFS.

in my centuries of driving, ive never activated the emergency brake.
but then again, I don't park on 45degree inclines.

also, why don't presidential secret service agents wear bullet proof vests?

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whoops.. wasn't you?
 
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JEDI

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Wow this thread sure got sidetracked

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

ok, i'll bring it back.

lets blame the victim now?
it's checkov's fault he was killed by the faulty design?
 
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IEC

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I always engage the parking brake in addition to shifting gear to Park.

If you don't make it force of habit, you will forget at the most inopportune of times.

I have to figure it out for a new rental car practically every week. I hate Chryslers.
 

LTC8K6

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The guy did what most people do. He wanted to get out and quickly check the mail, or shut the gate, etc. He threw it in Park to do that. Most people do not use the park brake to get out for a short period. They just put it in Park.

In this case, he probably let go of the shifter handle and got out before the trans actually made it into park. The trans stopped at N or R, and the shifter returned to it's resting center position.

Hill Start Assist probably held the brakes on long enough to fool him, since it would have kept the vehicle from moving for a few seconds.

HSA released the brakes after a few seconds, and he was in the vehicle's path by then, and got pinned by it.
 
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LTC8K6

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Brother just got the 2015 GC back after the recall. It now shifts to Park if you open the door without your foot on the brake pedal. It displays a message about "Auto Park" being activated, and reminding you how to shift out of Park again.
 

Carson Dyle

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Brother just got the 2015 GC back after the recall. It now shifts to Park if you open the door without your foot on the brake pedal. It displays a message about "Auto Park" being activated, and reminding you how to shift out of Park again.

I'm guessing (hoping) that it doesn't do that if the car is moving.
 

Linux23

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Brother just got the 2015 GC back after the recall. It now shifts to Park if you open the door without your foot on the brake pedal. It displays a message about "Auto Park" being activated, and reminding you how to shift out of Park again.

that should have been enabled from the get go.
 

zerocool84

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I have an automatic car and always engage the separate brake as well but it's probably a habit from driving manual transmission before hand.
 
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