Any benefit to using a domain for a home network?

Compman55

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As the title states. I kinda like the way it is setup at work and was wondering if it is worthwile to do it at home when I build a new server.

What advantages does it have over a workgroup?
 

masteryoda34

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I can't see this being worthwhile for a home setup.

What is it that you like about "the way it is setup at work"?
 

MrEgo

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As the title states. I kinda like the way it is setup at work and was wondering if it is worthwile to do it at home when I build a new server.

What advantages does it have over a workgroup?

What are you trying to accomplish by having a home domain? Keep in mind that, legally, you need to purchase a Windows Server OS and have a dedicated computer/server always on.

I guess it's good practice if you're preparing yourself for MCITP. I did that a couple years ago to get a better feel for Hyper-V, Windows Server, the new group policy options, and a few other things. I subscribe to TechNet, so I was able to install all of it for testing.
 

magichands

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What are you trying to accomplish by having a home domain? Keep in mind that, legally, you need to purchase a Windows Server OS and have a dedicated computer/server always on.

That is flat out wrong.

You can run a domain as long as you have a server that can host the domain. It could be a server out in the AWS cloud or it could be a server run locally. The OS Server choice doesn't matter as long as it is able to act as a DNS Server.

Is running Microsoft software (for most people) easier? Sure. But it is in no way the cheapest solution. You could easily run CentOS with Bind.

Now, if the idea is administrate the Domain within the home then most would want to use Windows unless they are Linux/Unix savvy.
 

Nothinman

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As the title states. I kinda like the way it is setup at work and was wondering if it is worthwile to do it at home when I build a new server.

What advantages does it have over a workgroup?

The same ones you would get in a work environment. Single sign-on across multiple PCs, you can distribute software via GPO, keep all PCs on same patch level if you use WSUS, etc. It just depends on how much work you want to put into maintaining your home network and how much money you can invest in MS server software.

magichands said:
That is flat out wrong.

You can run a domain as long as you have a server that can host the domain. It could be a server out in the AWS cloud or it could be a server run locally. The OS Server choice doesn't matter as long as it is able to act as a DNS Server.

Is running Microsoft software (for most people) easier? Sure. But it is in no way the cheapest solution. You could easily run CentOS with Bind.

Now, if the idea is administrate the Domain within the home then most would want to use Windows unless they are Linux/Unix savvy.

It is if you're just talking about a DNS domain, but it's 100% spot on if you're talking about a Windows Active Directory domain which is implied by the OP's comparison to a workgroup.
 

MrEgo

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That is flat out wrong.

You can run a domain as long as you have a server that can host the domain. It could be a server out in the AWS cloud or it could be a server run locally. The OS Server choice doesn't matter as long as it is able to act as a DNS Server.

Is running Microsoft software (for most people) easier? Sure. But it is in no way the cheapest solution. You could easily run CentOS with Bind.

Now, if the idea is administrate the Domain within the home then most would want to use Windows unless they are Linux/Unix savvy.

Ok... I figured he was asking about what a vast majority of people would assume he is talking about.
 

imagoon

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I run one at home but only for the my test environments and various virtual machines. For my gaming machine, I keep the passwords synced so I can connect easily to the server but I don't join it. I do however make use of DHCP / DNS that the domain server is providing on the gaming box / any guest boxes that sign in. The fact that my provider likes to DNS poison (to advertise on mistyped domain names) makes it handy for me to run one internally and use redirectors [which I normally hate] to point out to "clean" servers. They recently started poisoning the root servers so I am not sure how long that will last....
 

xSauronx

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What are you trying to accomplish by having a home domain? Keep in mind that, legally, you need to purchase a Windows Server OS and have a dedicated computer/server always on.

I guess it's good practice if you're preparing yourself for MCITP. I did that a couple years ago to get a better feel for Hyper-V, Windows Server, the new group policy options, and a few other things. I subscribe to TechNet, so I was able to install all of it for testing.

as a tech student i get loads of ms software for free, so i did the same thing. ive played with group policies, sharepoint and a few other things. i have a couple of VMs on esxi running server 2008.

as it stands i keep a DC running; when my daughter is out of order i disable her account (because...hey, i got pro versions of windows, too)

if you have to pay extra for things though...i wouldnt bother. its not generally worth it, and i only do it because i had stuff running for labs anyway
 

SolMiester

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as a tech student i get loads of ms software for free, so i did the same thing. ive played with group policies, sharepoint and a few other things. i have a couple of VMs on esxi running server 2008.

as it stands i keep a DC running; when my daughter is out of order i disable her account (because...hey, i got pro versions of windows, too)

if you have to pay extra for things though...i wouldnt bother. its not generally worth it, and i only do it because i had stuff running for labs anyway

FTW..nice, Ill have to remember that!, guess you could use a proxy and internet access times as well!
 

xSauronx

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FTW..nice, Ill have to remember that!, guess you could use a proxy and internet access times as well!

yeah, a couple of times ive restricted logon hours, just cause it was all easier then taking the pc out of her room.

mostly i use the domain setup for testing stuff i want to do at work before i have to do it.
 

MrEgo

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FTW..nice, Ill have to remember that!, guess you could use a proxy and internet access times as well!

You could also make bogus DNS entries for websites that you don't want people on your domain going to, assuming they aren't savvy enough to figure out how to get around it. Not that you would need a domain for that, but it would be a central point of management from your household.
 

dawks

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As the title states. I kinda like the way it is setup at work and was wondering if it is worthwile to do it at home when I build a new server.

What advantages does it have over a workgroup?

A domain will give you fine grained controls over User access. You can setup user accounts, passwords (password policies), limited access on file shares, and Group Policy to customize your desktop. For 2-5 users... its really much easier to just manage them on independently. Spending $2g on Windows Server, and running dedicated hardware is probably not cost effective for most users. You'll also need Windows Professional or higher, so expect to pay another $75+ for each machine to upgrade from Home.

tl;dr The main advantage over a work group would centralized user account control, and Group Policy for desktop customization/control.

Its a good way to learn if you wish to become a Windows Network Administrator however.
 

Geofram

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A domain will give you fine grained controls over User access. You can setup user accounts, passwords (password policies), limited access on file shares, and Group Policy to customize your desktop. For 2-5 users... its really much easier to just manage them on independently. Spending $2g on Windows Server, and running dedicated hardware is probably not cost effective for most users. You'll also need Windows Professional or higher, so expect to pay another $75+ for each machine to upgrade from Home.

tl;dr The main advantage over a work group would centralized user account control, and Group Policy for desktop customization/control.

Its a good way to learn if you wish to become a Windows Network Administrator however.

That cost is a bit inflated. When I got upgrades to Windows 7, getting the Professional was the same cost as Home Premium. I also only paid about $250 for Small Business Server 2008 to run my domain.

I find having a home domain to be very useful. Just the consolidated username/password thing is very useful if you have multiple computers around the house. Personally, I don't know why they don't just build that portion of AD into Windows Home Server.
 

qft

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Nah. Unless you're running a LOT of computers I don't see it being worth it. Licensing is expensive. Plus if your AD controller goes down you can't authenticate to the domains (you can likely log in under cached credentials but it still would cause issues)

Only reason is if you want to play around and learn, but I certainly wouldn't do it as a licensed thing for my main rigs.
 

Nothinman

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Nah. Unless you're running a LOT of computers I don't see it being worth it. Licensing is expensive. Plus if your AD controller goes down you can't authenticate to the domains (you can likely log in under cached credentials but it still would cause issues)

Only reason is if you want to play around and learn, but I certainly wouldn't do it as a licensed thing for my main rigs.

I've never seen cached cause any issues.
 

zephxiii

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cached credentials works just fine, however there is an ultimate limit (like 50 logins or something), but you should have your DC back up way before then.

I would run the server inside ESXi so you could quickly move it to another machine if needed.

also exchange is a super nice thing to have at home to, I freakin love it!! I believe it is integrated into SBS too which is sorta ideal for home use, especially the version that needs no CALs.
 

JustMe21

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Microsoft Small Business Server 2011 Essentials allows up to 25 users but doesn't come with Exchange. SBS 2011 Standard requires Client access licenses, will handle up to 75 users or devices and it comes with Exchange 2010.

If you're trying to keep it cheap, use a Linux server and Samba. It's similar to an NT domain but has been improved upon and you can install the Samba client onto a Windows PC to be able to join the Samba domain. You may also need to do a few registry tweaks.

Just remember, that you will need either Windows Professional or Ultimate to be able to join either an AD or Samba domain if you're sitcking with Microsoft products. OSX and Linux should work as well, but I don't know the difficulty involved in getting them going on a domain.
 

nusyo

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always wondered if ppl actually run AD at home ... very nice input (from both sides) .... as always
 

Red Squirrel

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I have a domain at home, so I don't have to continuously specify username/password when logging on to other servers via smb. I can just do \\servername\ and it will open. Also automated stuff runs flawlessly etc. I use Samba for my domain, not Windows though.

I do need to clean things up as most of my Linux servers are not on the domain, I need to read up on how to do that. Would be nice as all ssh passwords would be centralized.

I also had roaming profiles at one point but those are a bigger pain than it's worth. I mostly had done it for fun, but even with just two computers it was a royal pita. Profile sync errors, corruption, etc.
 
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