Any conclusive evidence of ghosts?

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Fritzo

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ghosts are BS. Just like psychics, demonic possessions, alien abductions, big foot, etc...


Well, with all this new research and findings about parallel universe concepts and non-perceptible special dimensions, and how time works, there are some theories that the past and the future of time is preset. Therefore, you could go back and forth in time if you had enough energy and mass to warp it. Ghosts may be naturally occurring projections from an alternate universe or another time.

I don't believe it because there's a lot of holes in the explanation, but it's being talked about.
 

Pheran

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What people don't get about this crap is that, for over 40 years, the James Randi foundation has been offering a one million dollar prize to anyone who can demonstrate, under controlled, testable conditions, any type of paranormal ability or activity. Of course, not a single person has been able to collect this prize. A million bucks is a pretty damn good motivator. If any of this stuff wasn't nonsense, someone would have collected the money by now.
 

Jeff7

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What people don't get about this crap is that, for over 40 years, the James Randi foundation has been offering a one million dollar prize to anyone who can demonstrate, under controlled, testable conditions, any type of paranormal ability or activity. Of course, not a single person has been able to collect this prize. A million bucks is a pretty damn good motivator. If any of this stuff wasn't nonsense, someone would have collected the money by now.
Nah, there are just ghosts hanging around trying to prevent any proofs from working.


Same thing happens when tests are done on the effectiveness of prayer - the excuse sometimes is that there are people out there praying for the tests to fail. You know, because God is a democracy. :awe:
 

El Guaraguao

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If we're able to create ghosts via some magical process following death, I'd expect things like cats, snakes, chickens, and so forth to also create ghosts as well. That'd suck for a critter that was dismembered or pureed for food. How would that haunting work out? Would they come back as a bunch of Ghostles'n'Bits or something?

Also, why aren't ghosts naked? Do the clothes and jewelry you die with also get stuck in some mystical afterlife for inanimate objects?


Our brains are capable of doing some pretty screwed up stuff, thanks to a good imagination, and some ancient fears, likely left there from a time when our species, or its predecessors, had to constantly be alert for some large creature that would love nothing more than to enjoy a delicious non-arboreal primate. If your brain is constantly hinting at you that there might be something "out there" that's trying to kill you, you're probably going to be more alert for possible predators, and thus more likely to survive.

this post contains waaaaaaaay 2 much logikal thinks. please try again. kthnxbye.
 

Babbles

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I've never seen any evidence however I wouldn't be surprised if one day there could be some credible evidence to point toward paranormal activity. The universe is so vast and there are just so many things that we simply do not understand, and for us to preclude any possibility of such activity is, I think, quite arrogant.

I wouldn't say that I "believe" in ghosts, per se, but if one day I was shown credible evidence I wouldn't be entirely shocked either.
 

DangerAardvark

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I've never seen any evidence however I wouldn't be surprised if one day there could be some credible evidence to point toward paranormal activity. The universe is so vast and there are just so many things that we simply do not understand, and for us to preclude any possibility of such activity is, I think, quite arrogant.

I wouldn't say that I "believe" in ghosts, per se, but if one day I was shown credible evidence I wouldn't be entirely shocked either.

I think it's arrogant to think that the universe cares enough about you to make you a magical specter when you die, while every other animal on Earth lives and dies whilst scarcely disturbing the laws of physics.
 

lxskllr

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I think it's arrogant to think that the universe cares enough about you to make you a magical specter when you die, while every other animal on Earth lives and dies whilst scarcely disturbing the laws of physics.

A ghost doesn't /have/ to be someone that's dead. That could very well be an incorrect interpretation of something that's otherwise real.
 

Babbles

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I think it's arrogant to think that the universe cares enough about you to make you a magical specter when you die, while every other animal on Earth lives and dies whilst scarcely disturbing the laws of physics.

Where in the hell did your rash of arrogant stupidity come from? To imply that the "universe cares" is just silly as hell; as if there is some sort of divine intelligence controlling the universe that can care?? Guess maybe if you were to use religion to describe that. Anyhow I never mentioned that only humans and not animals could have paranormal activities. Your slandering possible unexplained phenomena as being "magical specters" is no different than witch burnings of years past.

With the very likely possibilities of infinite parallel universes and/or multiple dimensions I am simply saying that there could be some natural phenomena explained by such quantum physics which we would otherwise identify as paranormal activity.

Again, to think that we somehow know or otherwise understand every possible activity occurring in the universe we live is the height of arrogance.

Get over it, dude.
 
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I've never seen any evidence however I wouldn't be surprised if one day there could be some credible evidence to point toward paranormal activity. The universe is so vast and there are just so many things that we simply do not understand, and for us to preclude any possibility of such activity is, I think, quite arrogant.
Any time something paranormal is demonstrated to be real, repeatable and testable it no longer qualifies as being paranormal and simply becomes science. Conversely, if this never happens then we can never know for sure that the paranormal activity is real. It's kind of a catch-22.
 

Jeff7

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Where in the hell did your rash of arrogant stupidity come from? To imply that the "universe cares" is just silly as hell; as if there is some sort of divine intelligence controlling the universe that can care?? Guess maybe if you were to use religion to describe that. Anyhow I never mentioned that only humans and not animals could have paranormal activities. Your slandering possible unexplained phenomena as being "magical specters" is no different than witch burnings of years past.

With the very likely possibilities of infinite parallel universes and/or multiple dimensions I am simply saying that there could be some natural phenomena explained by such quantum physics which we would otherwise identify as paranormal activity.

Again, to think that we somehow know or otherwise understand every possible activity occurring in the universe we live is the height of arrogance.

Get over it, dude.
I think the problem that's commonly had with ghosts is that the sightings exclusively seem to happen outside of any controlled environment, as though sophisticated recording equipment scares away all of the paranormal stuff. Too often it seems to be seen by people who are half asleep, under the influence of some manner of drug, in a dark or unsettling environment, or some combination of these.

If the common result of death was for a ghost of some sort to be created, the world would be populated almost exclusively by these things, as the vast majority of anything that's ever lived is now dead. The current population of the world (animals of all kinds, including people) would be utterly insignificant when compared to the population of the ghostly dead.
 

zerocool84

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Ghosts will be found when evidence of a god is found so there will never be evidence of ghosts found.
 

DangerAardvark

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Where in the hell did your rash of arrogant stupidity come from? To imply that the "universe cares" is just silly as hell; as if there is some sort of divine intelligence controlling the universe that can care?? Guess maybe if you were to use religion to describe that. Anyhow I never mentioned that only humans and not animals could have paranormal activities. Your slandering possible unexplained phenomena as being "magical specters" is no different than witch burnings of years past.

With the very likely possibilities of infinite parallel universes and/or multiple dimensions I am simply saying that there could be some natural phenomena explained by such quantum physics which we would otherwise identify as paranormal activity.

Again, to think that we somehow know or otherwise understand every possible activity occurring in the universe we live is the height of arrogance.

Get over it, dude.

You obviously read my post as a personal attack. I was referring to common beliefs about ghosts. lol@slander Get over yourself, not everything's about you.

Using the fact that quantum physics is mysterious as an explanation for the supernatural is just as arbitrary as using a magic man. In reality the most likely explanation for paranormal activity is that people are just superstitious, easy to fool and prone to delusion.

And sorry for all those witches I burned by posting the phrase "magical specters".

The point of my previous post was that while you wouldn't be surprised if we found scientific justification for ghost sightings, I would be VERY surprised. The existence of ghosts (like the existence of God) being scientifically proven would mean we live in a very different type of place than we previously thought. However, it really is arrogant to think that any sort of paradigm-changing scientific finding of this magnitude would have any relation to a petty superstition rooted in the childhood of our species.
 
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rubix

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how would a ghost even store memories? could a ghost grow and age? is a baby ghost forever locked in an infantile state never able to grow or gain knowledge? better hope you die at an optimal age with no major damage or you are stuck forever.

why do ghosts also have ghost clothing? is there a ghost clothing factory and how much do the ghost clothing factories charge for their ghost clothing in ghost currency?
 

Zee

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ghosts is the failure of the implementation of the previous version of the matrix
 

Gibsons

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I think the problem that's commonly had with ghosts is that the sightings exclusively seem to happen outside of any controlled environment, as though sophisticated recording equipment scares away all of the paranormal stuff. Too often it seems to be seen by people who are half asleep, under the influence of some manner of drug, in a dark or unsettling environment, or some combination of these.
10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes...
 

Triumph

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To me it depends entirely on how you define a ghost. I don't believe that they are some lasting representation of, or have a connection to, a dead person's soul. But if you expand the definition to simply mean "unexplainable sounds, motions, or apparitions," then yes, they're obviously real. To argue that everyone who has ever had a ghostly encounter is lying, is flat out preposterous. To argue that they are simply experiencing a mental projection into the physical world, well then THAT requires an explanation as well! How is that happening? What's going on in the mind to make it generate these visions? How does it decide what form an apparition will take? Why is it a small boy versus a lady in a white dress versus an orangutan? How do you explain complete strangers who report seeing similar apparitions? How do you explain movement - telekinesis? You can't simply explain away the unexplainable with something equally mysterious.
 

Supersonic64

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No conclusive evidence of ghosts, aliens, paranormal stuff. I think we can see where this is going...

It's usually all in people's head, the mind can be a powerful and frightening thing. That is not to say that people may see things which look like those mentioned above, but they are merely not what they seem to be.
 
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