Any epi-pen users here? What are you doing now that epi-pens are expensive??!?

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JimKiler

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Yeah a peanut allergy kid scares me more than epi-pen prices. If I ever have a kid I am gonna sprinkle PB2 peanut butter powder in their crib and force my wife to eat peanut butter every day she is pregnant to avoid that whole situation.

My wife ate peanuts during pregnancy and my daughter still has a peanut allergy.
 
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slag

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Now that Epipen price gouging has made national news, a couple of interesting tidbits spill out:

the CEO of Mylan, the scumbaggy maker of Epipen, is the daughter of Sen Joe Manchin of West Virginia.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...hter-who-raised-prices-on-anti-allergy-epipen

And used to live on the same street as Charles Baker who would buy Mobil 1 oil at Walmart and change it in his garage every 4 months whether it needed it or not.

This "scumbaggy" maker of Epipen makes a device that saves lives. If most people thought it was too much money, someone else would step up and produce a lower priced device that didn't infringe on patents and make a killing. There are options out there, but people don't want to hear that. They just want to bitch and get on the bandwagon. If I had to rely on these, I wouldn't be happy either, but that's why I have good insurance and there are alternatives as well. I'm not happy with the prices of many items, but I am grateful that I have access to said items due to where I live in this world.
 

sdifox

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And used to live on the same street as Charles Baker who would buy Mobil 1 oil at Walmart and change it in his garage every 4 months whether it needed it or not.

This "scumbaggy" maker of Epipen makes a device that saves lives. If most people thought it was too much money, someone else would step up and produce a lower priced device that didn't infringe on patents and make a killing. There are options out there, but people don't want to hear that. They just want to bitch and get on the bandwagon. If I had to rely on these, I wouldn't be happy either, but that's why I have good insurance and there are alternatives as well. I'm not happy with the prices of many items, but I am grateful that I have access to said items due to where I live in this world.



so price gouging is fine for you? Epipen price jumped ONLY in the US because they were able to do so. The patent is on the injection mechanism, not on the drug.
 
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Ns1

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If most people thought it was too much money, someone else would step up and produce a lower priced device that didn't infringe on patents and make a killing.

Someone already does this - the maker of epipens, except for sale in countries other than US.
 

Kwatt

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So I've been looking to replace the wife's epi-pens since they're expired...I just found out that they've increased in price 450% since the mid 00's!!!!

and I bet this was the real reason:
http://www.npr.org/2015/09/30/44479...nsformed-epipen-into-a-billion-dollar-product


This may be part of the reason:https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/201...otect-children-asthma-and-severe-allergies-an

Seeing as that the maker of Epi-Pen was a major lobbyist for the bill.
Just a guess though...


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slag

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Bit ironic, you mentioning that, since you deleted that specific information from the post you are quoting.

I didn't mean the person I replied to didn't mention them, I removed it since the first part of my reply was in response to the tie in to a senator. Who freaking cares who she is related to unless that senator directly had an impact on something related to the pen (which wasn't included in his post.)
 

sdifox

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yes but you clearly dont
Right since I only spent 3.5 years working on an insurance company's OneShield Dragon deployment.


just because other policy holders covered your ass doesn't make it free.
 

Zee

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In every language in every sense, when a person does not pay out of pocket, this scenario is considered free.

now if you want to speak about ripple effect or the chaos theory, where each action tangentially impacts that present and future systems and events... that's not considered cost.

That's called the butterfly effect and it's a fucking movie you dumbasses.
 

preCRT

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Sorry, but increasing the price to an insane amount of money for a desperately needed med that saves countless lives of men, women, and children is SCUMBUGGY. Those precious minutes provided by the injection of epinephine are the difference between life and death. .
 

gorb

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Still buying epipens. I've already met my deductible. Just paying coinsurance now. Got three 2-packs from Cigna Home Delivery for $150 out of pocket.

I hate how quickly they expire (12 months on average). I keep all of the expired ones that are still in good shape.

I really miss the auvi-q. Much more convenient size and shape.
 

nakedfrog

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They had professional douchebag and sack of excrement Martin Shkreli on the news talking about it this morning, saying most people are covered under insurance and shouldn't be impacted.
 

Ns1

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They had professional douchebag and sack of excrement Martin Shkreli on the news talking about it this morning, saying most people are covered under insurance and shouldn't be impacted.

Except for the whole you know, pay 100% until you meet the deductible thing. Guess I'm buying a few epi-pens Jan 1, 2017.
 
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They had professional douchebag and sack of excrement Martin Shkreli on the news talking about it this morning, saying most people are covered under insurance and shouldn't be impacted.
I saw an article where he compared it to the cost of an iPhone.
Here's his flaws
1) while iPhones have a big margin its nowhere near the pen
2) iPhones have more than one use
3) iPhones aren't critical to keep you alive

He is an utter ass clown
 

Kwatt

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They had professional douchebag and sack of excrement Martin Shkreli on the news talking about it this morning, saying most people are covered under insurance and shouldn't be impacted.

Except for the people who pay for their insurance (insurance cost go up and is passed along) , or who work for an employer who pays for their insurance (it is part of the pay package so smaller paycheck), or gov. employees whose insurance is paid for by the taxpayer, or Medicare/Medicaid whose cost is paid for by the taxpayer.

So only the people who work and the people who don't will be impacted.

Was the price increase since 2007 due to:
1. Low inflation ?
2. Decreased cost due to reduced labor cost for offshore manf. ?
3. Reduced production cost due to automation ?
4. Being able to get your fathers buddy to introduce a bill for public schools to keep a supply on hand ? Epi-Pen bill. Can someone say corporate EBT ?
5. The CEO's pay rising from 2.5 million to 18 million in < 10 years ?

Check all that you think applies.

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Slew Foot

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They had professional douchebag and sack of excrement Martin Shkreli on the news talking about it this morning, saying most people are covered under insurance and shouldn't be impacted.

Except of course, when your insurance premium rises 15% because the drugs cost too much
 

madoka

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Jun 22, 2004
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Supporting American jobs.

Funny since they moved out of the US to avoid taxes:

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...hter-who-raised-prices-on-anti-allergy-epipen

Bresch, 47, has been CEO of Mylan since 2012 and previously held other senior posts at the company, including as head of government relations. Last year, she had to defend the company after it moved its corporate address overseas to lower its U.S. taxes in a transaction known as an inversion. Now incorporated in the Netherlands, its principal executive office is in Canonsburg, Pennsylvania.
 
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