Any high-efficiency PSUs?

Mark R

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I've seen a lot of hype about active PFC in PSUs - mainly how it improves energy efficiency (it doesn't make a significant difference, and may actually lower efficiency) and how it saves money. PFC may or may not save you money; it depends very much on your electricity supply contract and the policies of the electricity suppliers and/or government in your country. For example, in the UK domestic electricity meters must legally ignore powerfactor. Large consumers (e.g. big office developments and factories) may be billed for low power factor. If you are operating servers at a co-location site, then you may pay heavily for power factor (as generators and UPSs may need to be oversized).

I've even seen 'silent' PSUs - equipped with massive heatsinks and exotic cooling schemes, but still compromising with a low power-capacity to prevent overheating.

What all these PSUs have in common is relatively poor energy efficiency (about 70%). In fact, some manufacturers have had the cheek to introduce their 'active PFC' series with claims of high efficiency - yet their 'active PFC' series PSUs actually have lower energy efficiency than their conventional supplies (as low as 65% - the minimum allowable under the ATX specification).

Higher energy efficiency in the PSU would bring with it advantages - tangible lower energy consumption and costs for all customers and reduced heat output. This may bring secondary benefits of reduced weight and noise. A modern high-end enthusiast PC might need as much as 150W of clean DC power - a 70% efficient PSU will need 215W from the wall while producing 65W pf heat, making the PSU the biggest single source of heat after the CPU.

High efficiency is not particularly difficult, although it is potentially costly. Laptop power bricks routinely get over 80% efficiency. I've seen some brick supplies over 90%, and a couple that have claimed 93%. With the use of premium semiconductors and magnetics, together with sophisticated designs (e.g. full bridge switching and synchronous switched rectifiers) I am sure that better efficiencies could be achieved.

Even replacing a conventional supply with one offering 85% efficiency brings tangible benefits. The system above with a 85% eff PSU would only draw 176W from the wall, a saving of 39W bringing cost savings of $10 a year for a home/office PC (left on about 8-10 hours a day) - and much, much more for a co-lo server.
 

Coquito

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I wouldn't mind paying $100+ for a strong & efficient psu. Best I've seen stat wise, I think is a fortron@75 or 78%.
 

0roo0roo

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question is why silent passive psus which cost way over 100dollars wouldn't use higher efficiency components if they are out there? too expensive? too hard?
 

WackyDan

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
question is why silent passive psus which cost way over 100dollars wouldn't use higher efficiency components if they are out there? too expensive? too hard?

PFC= marketing hype...... ANd useless

Kinda like 802.11g..... Marketed at 54Mbits......., and not the 22Mbit real limit per channel.

Dansdata.com has a very nice article on PFC for those that want to read it.
 

WalkingDead

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Fortron/Sparkle/Allies are nice PS with a reasonable price but their efficiency are usually around 65%. That's including all the rebadged Fortron like Zalman, Nexus & others. Also, I wouldn't call anything made by Fortron/Sparkle/Allies a quiet PS.

If you want high efficiency in a desktop power supply, there're only two brands for that Seasonic & Enermax. Most of the higher end lines in those 2 brands usually have about 80% efficiency or more.

Goto

Silent PC Review & check out some of thier PS articles.
 

shathal

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Any idea how I can find one of these Noisetaker 475's in the UK / Europe?

I'm searching my legs off ... can't find the critter.
 

Dug

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Also, I wouldn't call anything made by Fortron/Sparkle/Allies a quiet PS.
Then you haven't heard very many of them.
Fortron with 120mm fan is quieter than any even my Antec 380w that came with Sonata, and the Antec is fan is only running at 7v!

High efficiency is not particularly difficult, although it is potentially costly. Laptop power bricks routinely get over 80% efficiency. I've seen some brick supplies over 90%, and a couple that have claimed 93%

I'm not sure where you've heard that efficiency isn't difficult, but it is when converting any power and regulating it.
Laptop powerbricks don't have to do half as much as a desktop power supply. Not to mention their efficiency ratings can't reasonably be compared with a desktop power supply. A claimed 93% means about as much as a claimed 350w power supply.
 

beatle

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Originally posted by: Dug
Also, I wouldn't call anything made by Fortron/Sparkle/Allies a quiet PS.
Then you haven't heard very many of them.
Fortron with 120mm fan is quieter than any even my Antec 380w that came with Sonata, and the Antec is fan is only running at 7v!

No kidding, Dug. My 300w Fortron w/120mm fan beats my Antec True330. What a great unit!
 
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