You do know the Fusion like won awards and stuff right?
The latest stuff out of the Ford arena is proving they are a serious contender to the imports.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ion_vs._mazda_6_honda_accord-comparison_tests
".....the Fusion doesn t register a high score on our fun meter."
i've driven in a fusion before. felt like cheapness all around. drove the accord. awesome. couldnt believe they put the fusion in the same class with it.
Every automaker wins awards here and there. Usually doesn't mean jack
It's so the car doesn't suck so much ass. One thing I really like about cars with a standard is how I can shift into top gear at fairly low speeds and just hold it there. Flooring it gives nice smooth acceleration with no jerking. My current car has an automatic without selectable gears and it drives like total garbage. Push a bit too hard and the thing lurches because it just dropped down 2 gears and is now spinning at 5000rpm :'(SelectShift isn't available on the Fiesta. It is on the Focus and Fusion, although I don't really get the appeal.
It's so the car doesn't suck so much ass. One thing I really like about cars with a standard is how I can shift into top gear at fairly low speeds and just hold it there. Flooring it gives nice smooth acceleration with no jerking. My current car has an automatic without selectable gears and it drives like total garbage. Push a bit too hard and the thing lurches because it just dropped down 2 gears and is now spinning at 5000rpm :'(
Then again if you're like me and you enjoy running the engine at low rpm all the time, you should probably just get the manual transmission.
So you enjoy accelerating slowly?
Yep. You should see the cup holders in my corolla. There's shit spilled everywhere because the car lurches hard when it decides to randomly shifts gears. Fucking automatics are total shit (unless you can lock the gears).
It's so the car doesn't suck so much ass. One thing I really like about cars with a standard is how I can shift into top gear at fairly low speeds and just hold it there. Flooring it gives nice smooth acceleration with no jerking. My current car has an automatic without selectable gears and it drives like total garbage. Push a bit too hard and the thing lurches because it just dropped down 2 gears and is now spinning at 5000rpm :'(
Then again if you're like me and you enjoy running the engine at low rpm all the time, you should probably just get the manual transmission.
Yep. You should see the cup holders in my corolla. There's shit spilled everywhere because the car lurches hard when it decides to randomly shifts gears. Fucking automatics are total shit (unless you can lock the gears).
It's so the car doesn't suck so much ass. One thing I really like about cars with a standard is how I can shift into top gear at fairly low speeds and just hold it there. Flooring it gives nice smooth acceleration with no jerking. My current car has an automatic without selectable gears and it drives like total garbage. Push a bit too hard and the thing lurches because it just dropped down 2 gears and is now spinning at 5000rpm :'(
Then again if you're like me and you enjoy running the engine at low rpm all the time, you should probably just get the manual transmission.
I've been driving an 09 Fit sport automatic for 2 years now. I love it more today than ever before. Its a phenomenal car. It small so its great for the city. Fits (lol) into the smallest parallel spots, and has a really tight turning radius. I even love the look. IMO its beautiful.
Do i wish it was slightly better equipped.. sure.
But its a great little car. Its pure car, no fluff.
I highly recommend it.
well it's the only reason Honda's are popular.
Ditto, I have the exact same car and echo all these points including the love it more than when I got it. In terms of fit and finish the Ford Fiesta isn't even in the same league as the Fit IMHO; if you want a compact city car there really is nothing better for the job and you couldn't make a better commuter car if you tried. The interior space is used very intelligently so the car seems far bigger inside than it really is and with the "magic seats" you can actually do a pretty good job of hauling items when need be. The ergonomics of everything is pretty much perfect with the exception of the door lock button is awkwardly placed. Road noise is not as good as as a luxury car or SUV but still is not terrible; I've taken it on a couple of 1000 mile trips before and done fine.
I hate to break it to you, but when everyone else on the road can do something you can't it's probably a problem with you and not your car.
Ok I was fed up with this automatic transmission. To the point where I started to hate driving this [Honda Civic]. So today I decided to drive in d3 Since I drive in only city traffic, I figured why not? If the transmission dies, then it's under warranty, riding my bicycle in the snow would be more enjoyable than dealing with this automatic transmission.
Anyways, the jerk is gone. Yeah that's right, if you drive in d3 (under 27 mph) the jerky transmission DISAPPEARS!
Woops that's a totally different problem. Still, automatic transmissions are fucking garbage.I have contacted Nissan of North America several times about their piece of shit transmission in our cars. They refuse to do anything about it. All people that have to 4AT transmission have the 1st to 2ed jerk. I have lived with it since 2004 when it poped up in my ride. Just be glad yours shifts into 4th. Mine doesnt when its cold. I'll drive miles with only three gears. I should sue Nissan for all my wasted gas because of their stupidity and pigheadedness. Like my avatar says, this will be the last nissan i EVER own.
not really.
Honda's are a good choice for a car.
They're reliable, relatively cheap, and resonably equipped. For most people they provide exactly what is needed. Wheels. Not everyone needs a living room or rocket on wheels.
do you work for Ford? you constantly recommend the Fusion over the Accord or Civic. and now the Fiesta over the Fit. Are you on drugs??? the Fit is stylish and a Honda. it will last longer and retain in value over the years. the Fiesta can be traded in for a bag of charcoal in a few years.
So did the Chrysler 300. Don't we all wish we owned a Chrysler 300?
car of the year in 2005
Seems like the transmission might be the biggest difference. The Honda Fit has paddle shifters for the automatic, and I think those are fun as hell. I don't know if the Ford Fiesta has those. The Fiesta has a 6 speed automatic but I think the Fit was only 5.
Well then let's google it and see if anyone else experiences extremely jerky shifting when driving an automatic.
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/civi...ution-jerky-automatic-transmission-civic.html
My car is exactly like that. If the transmission stays in 3 so overdrive isn't constantly engaging then disengaging, the ride is smooth. The downside is that driving in third gear all the time drops gas mileage by about 10%. This is why the OP should buy a car that is capable of locking the gears to prevent it from gear hunting.
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/20...ransmission-jerks-while-shifting-1st-2nd.html
Woops that's a totally different problem. Still, automatic transmissions are fucking garbage.
Seriously, buy one with lockable gears. That way you can keep it in top gear without all of the bullshit lurching and gear hunting and spilled beer all over my car.
lol, many honda drivers are buying them for the last two points...Type R stickers and VTEC y0!
If you've ever driven a k-car, you would know that the car needs to be floored before it gets anywhere. My Ford Tempo and Toyota Corolla both run the engine at about 1200rpm then downshift as soon as the gas pedal is touched. The only reason the Tempo didn't jerk when doing it was because the transmission was broken; the car could accelerate while holding a constant rpm. When the transmission isn't broken and actually has fixed gear ratios with no slipping, the car jerks. The automatic is doing the equivalent of changing from gear 4 to gear 2 without rev matching. It just slams the clutchs in and the engine speed doubles or triples in the blink of an eye. None of this happens if the gears can be locked, which is a feature most modern automatic transmissions are capable of.Considering I've driven everything from trucks, SUVs, Japanese and domestic, Cadillacs down to K-cars all with automatics it's a decent amount of experience. If you maintain your car and don't drive in a way that's idiotic it will work just fine.
When a torque converter is unlocked (a large clutch plate inside the converter releases the input and output of the converter), the internal slippage quickly causes the oil temperature to climb. In just a few seconds of heavy uphill pulling, the oil temperature can climb enough to break down the oil lubricating qualities. This is the reason vehicles that haul heavy loads or pull trailers need the automatic oil changed more often. Save your transmission when driving uphill with a load by manually downshifting it as soon as you feel the torque converter unlock. If you cant feel it, you should be able to see it occur by watching a tachometer. Engine speed will increase about 300 to 500 rpm when it unlocks.
If you've ever driven a k-car, you would know that the car needs to be floored before it gets anywhere. My Ford Tempo and Toyota Corolla both run the engine at about 1200rpm then downshift as soon as the gas pedal is touched. The only reason the Tempo didn't jerk when doing it was because the transmission was broken; the car could accelerate while holding a constant rpm. When the transmission isn't broken and actually has fixed gear ratios with no slipping, the car jerks. The automatic is doing the equivalent of changing from gear 4 to gear 2 without rev matching. It just slams the clutchs in and the engine speed doubles or triples in the blink of an eye. None of this happens if the gears can be locked, which is a feature most modern automatic transmissions are capable of.
Slowing down is fun as well. The car tries to gear down while applying the brakes but it sucks at doing this and the car lurches because of it. When doing the 3 to 2 shift, engine rpm goes from 2000 (third gear) down to 1000 (neutral idle speed) then it jumps up to 3000 (second gear). I'm sure that isn't hard on the transmission at all :awe:
Here is a brief description of how your automatic transmission is trying to seppuku itself:
http://www.autos.ca/auto-tech/vehicle-safety/when-to-shift-an-automatic-transmission-manually
An automatic transmission in the sport shift mode never unlocks the torque converter, so manually locking the gears is ideal.
I noted the performance thing in another thread when talking about my Civic, so that's nice somebody experienced the same thing. Never had problems with the AC being too slow to work or not cold enough. It might need to be recharged. If it came like that, then maybe it was never fully charged before they gave it to you.The Bad
*If the AC is on, all the "pep" of the car goes right out the door. Its acceleration becomes non-existent. So if you live in a hot place like AZ, good luck.
*AC takes forever to kick-in and work during the summer. I think this is a Honda issue though. All of my old Civics were the same way.
Hmm this actually would make a lot of sense. I'm looking at Toyota's website right now and it says curb weight for the 2011 LE model is 2800 pounds and the GVWR is only 3840, so that's like 1000 pounds for people. I tend to have a lot of transmission problems when I'm driving around with 4 or 5 people in the car and about 200 pounds of random stuff in the trunk. My city has quite a few hills, especially by the river that I need to cross almost every day. :hmm:Everything you mentioned can be avoided if you drive the car within its capabilities and don't try to drive your econobox like its a sports car or drive with overly heavily loads (over the rated load for the vehicle) up steep hills. Strangely enough, that also causes the problems you experience while driving in the snow.
I noted the performance thing in another thread when talking about my Civic, so that's nice somebody experienced the same thing. Never had problems with the AC being too slow to work or not cold enough. It might need to be recharged. If it came like that, then maybe it was never fully charged before they gave it to you.