Any nexus 6 users here? Got marshmallow yet?

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Bman123

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What is OTA? is it same as getting a notification that you have update, or going to system update and checking for updates? Or is it something like downloading a ROM and stuff...

Over The Air which is what you described as getting a notification that a update is available.
I burned thru 1gb in 6 days this month thanks to Pandora streaming driving from Ohio to Florida so I'll have to wait til I get home to download the update since I don't have stable WiFi here
 

DesiPower

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Nov 22, 2008
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Over The Air which is what you described as getting a notification that a update is available.
I burned thru 1gb in 6 days this month thanks to Pandora streaming driving from Ohio to Florida so I'll have to wait til I get home to download the update since I don't have stable WiFi here

Stop by any free wi-fi place, its murika for pete's sake... McDonals, strabucks, whatever...
 

ControlD

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This is why I love having a Nexus device. No waiting for Verizon to send an update, just download the image from Google and flash it.
 

cronos

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As a reminder, starting with Lolipop and forward, Google and US carriers are holding updates based on SIM. So .. US Carriers get to greenlight the OTA to your nexus phone.

What do you mean by 'holding updates based on SIM'? That sounds like Nexus phones don't get updates straight from Google anymore and that's terrible.
 

Sid59

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What do you mean by 'holding updates based on SIM'? That sounds like Nexus phones don't get updates straight from Google anymore and that's terrible.

It's from Google but with nexus 6 anfd lollipop, theres provisions that Google wouldn't push the update without the green light of the carriers.

That's why from 5.0 up to recently there were multiple nexus factory images. It looks like the nexus 6 marshmallow builds might be moving to 1 unified update.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...being-withheld-but-it-doesnt-actually-matter/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-builds-why-they-exist-and-what-it-all-means/
 

mikeymikec

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Is the clock app any better on Android 6?

My problem with the A5 clock app was that stored timers were stored in a seemingly random order (though I'd hazard a guess that they're shown in the order they were saved in), whereas on A4.4 they're stored in order of the size of the timer (which makes them a lot easier to browse through).

I use the timer functions an awful lot, which was one of the reasons I went back to A4.4.4 on my N5.
 

ControlD

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What do you mean by 'holding updates based on SIM'? That sounds like Nexus phones don't get updates straight from Google anymore and that's terrible.

Yeah, that does suck a little bit You can always flash the update yourself with an image downloaded from Google so it really isn't that big of a deal.

Although I will say that it seems like the carriers are quick to release the updates, usually within a week or so.
 

ControlD

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I know it has only been a couple of days, but my battery life has been stellar since flashing the update. I remember reading that Google was focusing on battery life with 6.0 and it appears they did exactly that.
 

cpacini

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I know it has only been a couple of days, but my battery life has been stellar since flashing the update. I remember reading that Google was focusing on battery life with 6.0 and it appears they did exactly that.
When you flashed the factory image did you include the userdata image or do a factory reset, or did you keep your existing data?

I did not wipe user data, just cache. Battery life seems slightly worse on 6.0, but tough to judge after only one day. Also running without root for the time being so no xposed + greenify, I'm hoping Doze will work as well instead. I remember having all kinds of battery issues on my N5 when I went from kit Kat to lollipop that went away after a factory reset.
 

ControlD

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I flashed the userdata.img and performed a factory reset (directly from the fastboot screen) before I booted into 6.0 for the first time.

I have all of my apps reinstalled, but it is always possible there was something in there that was giving me poor battery life on 5.1.1.

It is a poor measurement, but I took my phone off the charger at 5:30 this morning and I am sitting at 88% right now (11:00 AM) and I would say I have been using the phone about like normal. On 5.1.1 I probably would have been at maybe 70% at this point. I work in an office with poor cell coverage and it seems like the radio doesn't consume nearly as much power in poor signal areas like it did before.
 

poofyhairguy

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Interesting the Nexus 4 didn't get Marshmellow. That was easily the longest officially updated Android phone up to this point, getting two and a half years from release to the Android 5.1 update. It went:

Shipped 4.2-4.3-4.4-5.0-5.1 or four total updates

The only thing close is Galaxy S3 which also had four updates:

Shipped 4.0-4.1-4.2-4.2-4.4

The difference is that Nexus 4 updates covered a longer period of time.

Still makes you wonder if no matter what two and a half years is all anyone can expect out of a Android phone for updates. That is still much longer than Android tablets get (the Nexus 7 2012 was the old high water mark) but less time than competing iOS devices. The iPhone 4s is from 2011 and still runs a current version of iOS. Seeing as how iOS won't get another update for at least a year means the 4s and the iPad 2 were the world's first five year mobile devices, five years being a big deal because it is the traditional replacement cycle timing for desktops or consoles.

I wonder if any Android device will ever be a five year device, I was rooting for the Nexus 4 to get there but it stopped halfway...
 

cronos

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It's from Google but with nexus 6 anfd lollipop, theres provisions that Google wouldn't push the update without the green light of the carriers.

That's why from 5.0 up to recently there were multiple nexus factory images. It looks like the nexus 6 marshmallow builds might be moving to 1 unified update.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...being-withheld-but-it-doesnt-actually-matter/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-builds-why-they-exist-and-what-it-all-means/

Oh I see. Thanks for the links. I missed it when this was reported.
 

cronos

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Interesting the Nexus 4 didn't get Marshmellow. That was easily the longest officially updated Android phone up to this point, getting two and a half years from release to the Android 5.1 update. It went:

Shipped 4.2-4.3-4.4-5.0-5.1 or four total updates

The only thing close is Galaxy S3 which also had four updates:

Shipped 4.0-4.1-4.2-4.2-4.4

The difference is that Nexus 4 updates covered a longer period of time.

Still makes you wonder if no matter what two and a half years is all anyone can expect out of a Android phone for updates. That is still much longer than Android tablets get (the Nexus 7 2012 was the old high water mark) but less time than competing iOS devices. The iPhone 4s is from 2011 and still runs a current version of iOS. Seeing as how iOS won't get another update for at least a year means the 4s and the iPad 2 were the world's first five year mobile devices, five years being a big deal because it is the traditional replacement cycle timing for desktops or consoles.

I wonder if any Android device will ever be a five year device, I was rooting for the Nexus 4 to get there but it stopped halfway...

I believe One M7 was released with 4.1.2, and received updates all the way to 5.1.1., also about 2.5 years.
 

poofyhairguy

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I believe One M7 was released with 4.1.2, and received updates all the way to 5.1.1., also about 2.5 years.

Only the GPe version of the M7 got 5.1, and then it was only 5.1 and not 5.1.1. Plus the Google Play Edition of the M7 came out in May 2013 and Android 5.1 (the last one it will get) came out in March 2015 so in actually it got less than two full years of updates.

You did make me notice I kinda had a double standard though, as really the lifespan should be until the next update is released which the phone can't get like I said for the iPhone 4s. In that case the Nexus 4 was almost a three year device and the GPe M7 was an over two year device.

Sadly the regular M7 never got more than Lollipop, so even by that standard at best it was a two year device.
 

cronos

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Only the GPe version of the M7 got 5.1, and then it was only 5.1 and not 5.1.1. Plus the Google Play Edition of the M7 came out in May 2013 and Android 5.1 (the last one it will get) came out in March 2015 so in actually it got less than two full years of updates.

You did make me notice I kinda had a double standard though, as really the lifespan should be until the next update is released which the phone can't get like I said for the iPhone 4s. In that case the Nexus 4 was almost a three year device and the GPe M7 was an over two year device.

Sadly the regular M7 never got more than Lollipop, so even by that standard at best it was a two year device.

Ah, you're right about 5.1 vs. 5.1.1. The number of updates for the Sense version though is also at least 4 times, to 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, and 5 (NA version may have skipped a version and went straight to the next one).

Anyway, I understand that for fair comparison we have to compare the exact version of the phones, but in reality it's pretty trivial for a Sense M7 (especially the ones from original release date, when bootloader unlocking and s-off was really easy) to get a GPE ROM. Also, I really thought 5.1 came out much later than that towards the middle of the year, so my memory is kind of mixed up on that.
 

sweenish

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Flashed M to our devices yesterday. OTA, not factory images.

So far, so good. The N7 2013 is the weakest device, and it's got even smoother than it was on 5.1.

I enjoy the ability to set multiple Do Not Disturb rules. This addition alone negates quite a few of my Tasker profiles.

I can see the potential of Now on Tap, but I haven't really got any good use out of it yet.
 

lothar

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Interesting the Nexus 4 didn't get Marshmellow. That was easily the longest officially updated Android phone up to this point, getting two and a half years from release to the Android 5.1 update. It went:

Shipped 4.2-4.3-4.4-5.0-5.1 or four total updates

The only thing close is Galaxy S3 which also had four updates:

Shipped 4.0-4.1-4.2-4.2-4.4

The difference is that Nexus 4 updates covered a longer period of time.

Still makes you wonder if no matter what two and a half years is all anyone can expect out of a Android phone for updates. That is still much longer than Android tablets get (the Nexus 7 2012 was the old high water mark) but less time than competing iOS devices. The iPhone 4s is from 2011 and still runs a current version of iOS. Seeing as how iOS won't get another update for at least a year means the 4s and the iPad 2 were the world's first five year mobile devices, five years being a big deal because it is the traditional replacement cycle timing for desktops or consoles.

I wonder if any Android device will ever be a five year device, I was rooting for the Nexus 4 to get there but it stopped halfway...
iPhone 4S runs a crippled version of iOS9 with major features disabled.
I'm sure Google won't mind releasing 6.0 Marshmallow on the Nexus 4 with major features like Doze, and permissions disabled.
 

poofyhairguy

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Also, I really thought 5.1 came out much later than that towards the middle of the year, so my memory is kind of mixed up on that.

Completely fair, that is when most phones got it.

And I feel you on the conversion thing, my daily driver is an AT&T M8 that thinks it is a GPe. With 5.1 it only took them a month to release the GPe update, hope that is the case with Marshmallow too.
 

poofyhairguy

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iPhone 4S runs a crippled version of iOS9 with major features disabled.
I'm sure Google won't mind releasing 6.0 Marshmallow on the Nexus 4 with major features like Doze, and permissions disabled.

Google might mind, but the best part about Android is that someone will do it for them.
 

lopri

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Not only iOS updates can be gimped on older devices but they can also slow things down on those devices. It is a great way for Apple to "encourage" upgrades.
 

Crow550

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Google might mind, but the best part about Android is that someone will do it for them.

Cyanogenmod 13 should be Android M when released for the Nexus 4.

12.1 on the Nexus 4 is pretty good.

I am retiring my Nexus 4 since I just got a Nexus 6 on sale.

Android M's Doze feature is pretty awesome.

If you don't mind flashing and want Android 6 now, look at the Nexus Root Toolkit.
 
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