any other republicans not excited about romney?

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Mxylplyx

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Republicans don't deserve to carry the mantle of fiscal conservatism after they controlled all 3 branches for several years and did nothing but pilfer the public coffers on wars and tax cuts. Are they supposed to be more qualified to espouse fiscal conservatism simply because they pander to that cause during election time? The democrats might not embrace the principle of it, but at least they aren't hypocrites either.
 

jagec

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THey are constitutional worlds apart. STATE healthcare is both legal and a good idea. FED GOV healthcare would both fail miserably AND be horribly expensive.

It is irritating that so many people still believe they are the same.

What is the magical difference between a state government and the federal government, that makes one be super-efficient and well-run, and the other horribly inefficient and incompetent?

Hint: There isn't one, you're just off your meds.
 

nonlnear

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Republicans don't deserve to carry the mantle of fiscal conservatism after they controlled all 4 branches for several years and did nothing but pilfer the public coffers on wars and tax cuts. Are they supposed to be more qualified to espouse fiscal conservatism simply because they pander to that cause during election time? The democrats might not embrace the principle of it, but at least they aren't hypocrites either.
Fixed.
 

senseamp

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This is the Republicans John Kerry.

None of them are exciting and they are running on issues nobody cares about.

I was going to compare Romney to Kerry. Then I thought it would be unfair to Kerry, who was at least fairly consistent in his positions and didn't change them 3 times a day. But in terms of mechanical out of touch demeanor, they are similar.
 

monovillage

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Don't worry, I think Democrats have plenty of excitement about Romney.

You mean the ones that pretend that Obama isn't a lying, greedy, corporate, war mongering piece of garbage? That pretend he's a great and honest politician when they know beyond any doubt what a scum sucking snothole he is? Those Democrats?
 

senseamp

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You are kidding right? Kerry was a major flip flopper and often took both sides of an issue.

http://www.killsometime.com/pictures/files/Kerry-Truck.jpg

Maybe some specific issues Kerry changed his views, but he remained a liberal.
Romney completely changes his whole political ideology depending on what race he's in. He doesn't just change positions, he throws out everything he claimed to believe in before, and starts over with completely different views. In Massachussets he was a liberal, now he's "severely" conservative, and we'll see where he stands after he gives the old etch-a-sketch another shake.
 

Ynog

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Republicans don't deserve to carry the mantle of fiscal conservatism after they controlled all 4 branches for several years and did nothing but pilfer the public coffers on wars and tax cuts. Are they supposed to be more qualified to espouse fiscal conservatism simply because they pander to that cause during election time? The democrats might not embrace the principle of it, but at least they aren't hypocrites either.

Fixed.

3 is the correct number. The US Senate and US House of Representatives are the same branch of government.
 
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nonlnear

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3 is the correct number. The US Senate and US House of Representatives are the same branch of government.
No, 4 is the correct number. The Federal Reserve is number 4. The fact that it isn't mentioned in the Constitution doesn't really have any bearing on the practical fact that it is an independent branch of the US government.
 

Mxylplyx

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No, 4 is the correct number. The Federal Reserve is number 4. The fact that it isn't mentioned in the Constitution doesn't really have any bearing on the practical fact that it is an independent branch of the US government.

Let me guess....Ron Paul....right?
 

nonlnear

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Let me guess....Ron Paul....right?
I'm not much an advocate of ending the Fed, and I think Paul would be a fairly ineffective President.

Do you have a coherent argument against the claim that the Federal Reseve is for all pracitcal purposes an independent branch of the US government?
 

blankslate

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I've been voting for almost 40 years. I've never been excited about any candidate and I've voted on both sides of the aisle. What I've seen on my short time on this earth is an increasing trend of elected officials moving towards a tiered society with themselves at the top. They pass laws that effect everyone but themselves and we stand by and let them do it. There's nothing to get excited about.

Obama was voted in because he wasn't Bush and Romney will be voted in because he's not Obama. We'll be the better for it. The question is how much. We can't ignore the debt our country is racking up. We must stop the spending. There will be pain, but far less than if we continue as if there are no consequences. There are consequences. They (politician's) know it, we know it too. We're hoping it somehow all magically works out, but it's not going to. It's going to take hard work and sacrifice. It's going to take passing a budget. When is the last time our government had one in place? Could you run your household without one?

It's not going to happen under Obama's watch. His goal is to tear down our society so he can rebuild it in the image of a dream from his father. A dream from his parents, his grandparents, his mentor's, the people who paid for his education, the people who got him elected, the people who hide his transcripts, the people he's hired, and the list goes on. All share the same dream and the United States of America as it stands today is not in that dream. It's obvious if you just open your eyes.

Excited about Romney? Why would you need to be excited? He's the only chance we've got.




There's a better image showing the state of politics for most of Americans than the one you posted




It's rather old as you can tell because President Obama hadn't even won the nomination when this picture was made.


But hey, at least he's not Frothy.

You mean the guy this song's about?
http://soundcloud.com/mike-in-raleigh/frothy-santorum-update

There have been reports of people singing it in a bar when Santorum appeared on T.V. funny if true
 
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woodie1

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I do not care for any of the four people still running for the Republican nomination for president. However, I find Romney to be the least objectionable of the four. I cannot abide the current administration so the lesser evil is Romney. In the past 40+ years I have been voting I've watched the choices go from bad to worse. The route we are headed down is gonna bite us in the butt - mark my word.
 

Franz316

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People still think that politicians have any desire to solve problems? I don't think they have ever solved anything. Ordinary people solve problems, not politicians. Both parties imply that if we elect a few more of their type, do a little of this and tweak a little of that, then the country will get back on track.

It really doesn't matter who is in power because they all look out for themselves and the donors that got them their. They don't give two shits about the common person and we shouldn't expect them to. It's all a game to give us the illusion that we actually have a say in how the country is run.
 

Lemon law

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As a dimocrat I am very disappointed in Obama, but when Romney is far worse than Obama and the other 3 GOP turds are even worse than Romney, I will likely hold my nose and vote for Obama.

I had hoped for a deadlocked GOP convention where someone anyone on the GOP side could maybe give me a better alternative.

But now it looks like Romney has the GOP nomination locked up.

Comrades we are doomed.
 
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