Any reason to use Chrome over FF?

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pcslookout

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Chrome is bloody, bloody fast. Everything happens pretty much instantly, whereas Firefox still has a perceptible delay, small as it may be. Firefox has addons. Except Chrome does too. But Firefox's ones are generally more mature. Though Firefox seems to like to break compatibility with them every time you update to a new version. Firefox has a lot more tools; you can install different toolbars, etc, and you generally get a lot more choice over how it looks. But Chrome is really, really simple, and that means lots of screen space too. Firefox works better with forums. Chrome works much better with fewer tabs open; everything starts slowing down after about the 10th tab. Whereas Firefox is a lot slower overall, but its speed doesn't degrade as much when you open lots of tabs. Chrome is practically multithreaded - even though each thread can only run on one core as far as I can tell, Chrome creates one for every single tab. On the other hand, this also means that if you have lots of tabs open when you call up the Task Manager you can't see anything useful because the whole processes pane is taken up with lots of Chrome.exe's.

tl;dr: It depends on what you like. Use both of them.

I was trying the latest firefox 3.7 alpha versions and it is pretty quick as well now. Will be interesting to see if Mozilla can get firefox as quick as chrome or quicker so we have the best of both worlds in one browser. Firefox will soon have separate threads as well!
 

konakona

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My usage parttern and priorities are probably quite different from some of you, but here goes nothing

- The least clutter and most efficient use of real estate - tis almost like viewing things in full screen mode at all times
- Intuitive interface that just makes
Examples
1) The first option that appears on the popup menu when you right click on a hyperlink is 'open in new tabs' (as opposed to 'new window' in IE or FF). If you have a tab feature, use it! Why would anyone want to open it in a new window more often than he would in a new tab???
2) The first option that appears on the popup menu when you right click on a hyperlink is 'save image' (as opposed to 'copy image' in IE or FF). Maybe some of you copy images for editing purposes, but I would think most people save images far more often than anything.
3) The download bar is very useful, to the point of addiction If you are continuously saving a ton of stuff at once, FF would keep flashing its download manager EVERY TIME, very distracting and annoying.
4) Chrome shrinks each tab's title bar when more tabs are open. FF does the same, except after a dozen or so tabs depending on your horiziontal viewing space, it stops doing that and forces you to cycle thru with arrow buttons. Very inconvinient if you are opening more than 30 pages at will.

The above may seem like a minute point to nitpick on, but if you are doing this enough you will keep noticing how painless chrome is compared to FF or IE.

- I typically open 50+ tabs (mostly jpg images), since I can get away with doing that in chrome
- Chrome is known to be better with returning memory back to the system pool with each closed tabs (or so says AT preview of chrome). Very important with me opening and closing so many tabs
- I was never a FF fan, never used that many plugins to begin with. Not sure what FF plugins people adore so much other than adblock.
- I find chrome's extensions quite useful for what I do. The ones I use include: undo closed tabs, vertical tabs, flashblock, search preview and translation bar.
 
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simonizor

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I love chrome. It's much faster, and the look is a lot more minimalistic than FF. There are two very skinny bars at the top; one for the tabs, and the other for the navigation buttons, address bar, your extensions, and the options buttion.

The only thing that I really miss from FF is adblock. There is a version of adblock for chrome, but it doesn't work nearly as well (if at all) as FF's adblock. I got over this by installing a program called HostsMan which adds all known advertising urls to your hosts file. This makes it so that no pictures, videos, or anything else are shown from any advertising url. The program has an update feature that will add any new advertising urls to your hosts file as they are found.
 

TheStu

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Netflix works just fine in Chrome. I agree with locking the links on the homepage though. That's been my one complaint since day one.

Hover your mouse over the thumbnails. There will be a pushpin, or something similar that implies 'locking' or 'pinning' or 'securing' or whatever. I just wish there was a way to get more than the default number and to then import my sites list from Safari in OS X.
 

konakona

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Undo close tab is already built in, it's Shift+Ctrl+T.

But you only get so many to play around with that. The extension I speak of shows everything in the chronological order since your last 'reset' (purge), all in a neat drop down menu activated by a tiny button. It even shows you when you closed it. The built-in history feature is nearly useless as it is unable to sort pages (or tabs) by time of closure.
 

KeypoX

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It seems chrome has gotten better ))) Im happy about this because it is fast, and sorta sexy.

Ad thwart seems to actually work now! NO more loading then hiding ads??? Is this my imagination?
 

AFurryReptile

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It seems chrome has gotten better ))) Im happy about this because it is fast, and sorta sexy.

Ad thwart seems to actually work now! NO more loading then hiding ads??? Is this my imagination?

Nice find! This was the ONE thing that's been killing me ever since making the switch to Chrome. I just tried this addon, and sure enough, they don't load at all!
 

KeypoX

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Nice find! This was the ONE thing that's been killing me ever since making the switch to Chrome. I just tried this addon, and sure enough, they don't load at all!

Yeah its one of the things that really bothered me, prob the biggest thing. Im slowly seeing other things that bother me too. But for the increase in speed i might just get used to it.

Gonna give chrome a try again for a week or so.
 

jkroeder

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It seems chrome has gotten better ))) Im happy about this because it is fast, and sorta sexy.

Ad thwart seems to actually work now! NO more loading then hiding ads??? Is this my imagination?

It's your imagination.

It's not the extensions problem that ads are loaded and then hidden. It's a limitation in Chrome itself which has not been addressed yet. The author of adthwart may have tweaked it well enough so that the ads are now hidden faster than you can notice. But no, ads are not and can not be truly blocked in Chrome yet via an extension.
 
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KeypoX

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It's your imagination.

It's not the extensions problem that ads are loaded and then hidden. It's a limitation in Chrome itself.

Well sorta, i am indeed not seeing the ads. But they are being loaded, i still dont see them. I dont mind them actually being loaded as long as they are not visible then disappear (that was horrible, i would rather them just stay). I think i actually saw them being loaded in the far left bottom corner, but im not sure, the shrooms are kicking in lol jk.
 

pcslookout

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Well sorta, i am indeed not seeing the ads. But they are being loaded, i still dont see them. I dont mind them actually being loaded as long as they are not visible then disappear (that was horrible, i would rather them just stay). I think i actually saw them being loaded in the far left bottom corner, but im not sure, the shrooms are kicking in lol jk.

I hate ad blockers that show the ads then make them disappear. Very annoying. There no point of even having a ad blocker if that happens.
 

KeypoX

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I hate ad blockers that show the ads then make them disappear. Very annoying. There no point of even having a ad blocker if that happens.

yeah me too. How are the other ad blockers now on chrome? Thwart seems pretty decent for now.
 

EarthwormJim

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yeah me too. How are the other ad blockers now on chrome? Thwart seems pretty decent for now.

They all do the same thing, hide ads and not block them.

Chrome on ad free sites is faster on my netbook, but once I actually go to real sites that have ads it's slower than Firefox with adblock+.

Chrome and Privoxy is better resource wise than chrome with ad blockers, but Privoxy really misses so much.

What is Opera like as far as ad blockers go?
 

ForumMaster

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Pros of Google Chrome:

* Synchronized bookmarks. I know that firefox has this as an add-on, but I like knowing it won't break with an update, is stable, "just works", and also my bookmarks shows up in google docs.

* Better use of real estate. More of the page shows up because Chrome has eliminated the bottom status bar and file menu.

* Doesn't have this weird issue where a flash video will start lagging one second out of ever 10. This shows up after leaving Firefox open for awhile. This issue also affects typing; if I am typing a long message I'll discover parts are missing where Firefox momentarily froze. The fix is to just close and reload Firefox, but it's still annoying. Started in 3.5 but hasn't been fixed in the most recent Firefox yet.

* You can drag a tab outside the current window to open it in a separate window, and it keeps the same page open without reloading the page. Very nice if you are watching a video, and want to have it display separately on your second monitor without having to reload it. This also works in reverse; drag a window to a second instance, and it will seamlessly show up as a new tab on the other window without reloading. Supposedly Firefox will support this soon.

* Omnibar (combining the url and search bars into one). File this under the "why didn't anyone think of this before". Makes total sense.

Cons of Google Chrome:

* No dropdown list in the omnibar that you can click with your mouse without entering text. I was in the habit of using this to remember recent sites I had visited in Firefox without going to history. However, it didn't take long to get over this, and in fact it is not really a con anymore because I am now fine without it.

* No RSS feeds in bookmarks. This one I really miss. I like being able to go to an RSS folder in bookmarks and quickly seeing if anything new has been posted in my subscribed feeds. In Chrome the best you can do is subscribe to feeds in Google Reader, but I find this to be a hassle and often now forget to check my feeds for updates.

* Not as many add-ons. I miss the form text-saver add-on (in case you get logged out before you submit a form) and a fully functional greasemonkey. I don't mind not having something like adblock since I realize websites need me to see their ads in order to survive.

* No firebug. Google Chrome dev tools are pretty decent however and make a fair substitute.

Opera has synchronized bookmarks built in.

Opera can be configured to show even more real estate then chrome.

opera has been able to search from the URL since version 8 atleast? i just type "g bla" and it does a google search for bla.

opera has quite a good RSS reader.

you don't need half the addone for FF cause the features are built in to opera

opera has some called dragonfly which pretty similar to firebug. right click on a page and select "Inspect Element".

Opera is also just as fast as chrome, and doesn't hog memory like FF...
 

ForumMaster

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They all do the same thing, hide ads and not block them.

Chrome on ad free sites is faster on my netbook, but once I actually go to real sites that have ads it's slower than Firefox with adblock+.

Chrome and Privoxy is better resource wise than chrome with ad blockers, but Privoxy really misses so much.

What is Opera like as far as ad blockers go?

opera blocks ads like FF. it's load them and not show them. right click a page, select block content and click on an ad and it's domain is blocked.

you can also easily ad a list of domains to block from sites for adblock.
 

KeypoX

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Well after some days with about 3, i have come back to FF. Though I will keep chrome handy.

Chrome is faster on sites without ads, and sometimes on sites with ads. But mostly its a wash. I like some default behavior of chrome, and the look. But even though they have the same addons IE fast dial, its still lacking compared to FF.

The only places chrome clearly wins is startup time, and I like the super bar, though FF has an addon for that lol.

If they will let ads be blocked maybe i will go back but for now its trusty old FF. Oh yeah I found chrome to crash more than FF. FF generally never crashes 1 per 7 days maybe, chrome was crashing about 1 per day over 3 days. And 1 per 3 days on laptop.
 

KeypoX

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I find on reboots i want to click chrome because its starts so fast. When did FF load times get so bad.
 

Clank

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I've switched back to using Firefox as Chrome was using to much memory, every tab i had opened was 30,000k memory each!
The Adblock on Firefox is way better not to mention all the addons. Hopefully I'll be able to go back to chrome sometime in the future. I'm thinking about changing to Opera though, I've never really liked Firefox.
 

WelshBloke

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I switched back to firefox recently mainly because of the amount of malware being served up by rogue ads.
Does Chromes version of ad blocking leave you vulnerable to these ads if it loads them (however briefly)?
 

lxskllr

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I switched back to firefox recently mainly because of the amount of malware being served up by rogue ads.
Does Chromes version of ad blocking leave you vulnerable to these ads if it loads them (however briefly)?

I'd say yes. Loaded is loaded. The amount of time that passes shouldn't matter.
 

EarthwormJim

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I switched back to firefox recently mainly because of the amount of malware being served up by rogue ads.
Does Chromes version of ad blocking leave you vulnerable to these ads if it loads them (however briefly)?

I'm pretty sure the ads are still there, they're loaded, then visually hidden.
 
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