Any Vertex 4 owners?

[TemjinGold]

So the Vertex 4 seems to seriously top the charts in performance. I know a lot of people say you can't tell but I remember when I had my G2 side by side with a Vertex 2, I could definitely tell. Anyway, this post isn't about arguing whether you can or can't.

As the Vertex 4 is NOT Sandforce, I am curious if anyone has one and how their experience has been. If it's a great drive, I'd really like to give one a shot. Thanks!

 

[bryanW1995]

Just from looking at reviews, especially real world tests like the MOASB, I'd pick a samsung 830 over a vertex 4 or anything else for that matter.

 

[TemjinGold]

I'm sure you would. I don't want to pick up anything else. As I explained in the post, that isn't my question. I have not seen this drive on any of the massive sales and it not being SandForce, I'm genuinely interested if we have any Vertex 4 owners on this site and what their experience has been like. If this is indeed a great drive based on personal user experience, I am interested in trying one.

 

[kbp]

I would definitely check out OCZ's forum and see how it seems to be doing.

 

[B-Riz]

I am trying to copy my windows partition over and get it setup; still working on it.

Windows 7 found it fine and installed it when I plugged it in.

So, no issues yet, will be able to elaborate more if I get it all working tonight.

 

[TemjinGold]

Thanks for replying. And thanks kbp for the suggestion.

 

[Zoeff]

I've been using a Vertex 4 512GB for almost 2 months now, no problems. A friend of mine bought one of the smaller capacity variants about a month before I bought mine, and it's working fine as well.

The hate for the Vertex is quite strong on this forum, while the Crucial and 830 is getting a lot of praise. Interesting, when another friend of mine has had 2 crucial's die on him...

 

[tweakboy]

Try to find the latest OCZ firmware V4


Guys the performance is simple there are slow SSDs and fast ones. Like my dads is a sata 3 a-data 6gbps 120GB and his crystal is 375Mbps cuz its a pos SSD.

When I run crystal with my M4 512GB I get 260mbps because I am using SATA 2.0 .. But in 3.0 mode it transfers 480mbps sammys and ocz go to 520mbps.

In iops sammy and Ocz pown ,, but Expect 500mbps or more on the vertex4 and the sammy 830. I was going to get a Sammy 512GB but it was 700 dollars. Crucial M4 is 399.99 512GB However Sammy with 256 and lower drives is competitively priced, not a rip off like 700 for a ssd ,,, worth twice your CPU lol, gosh.

Im lovin it despite sata 2.0 speeds as I dont have a sata 3 port. It gives 260mbps , windoz boots in 20 seconds, photoshop opens in 2 seconds. On top of that Im using 512k cluster size cuz I brought this in with windows image. I never did a clean install with the SSD< I just popped it in there put the image on there and its ready to go. Soo I give it props. Also its running very cool to the touch. I get 7.3 on WEI What should a M4 be ? This has to do with cluster size and not a clean install.

 

[B-Riz]

Currently my issue is going from 2 x 40GB Intel SSD in RAID 0 to the new V4.

I think it is not working due to cluster size and all that fun stuff, I am going to try a clean Win 7 install off USB drive in AHCI mode; but I have 2 x 1TB drives in RAID 0, so I will prolly change it back to RAID mode in the mobo BIOS.

 

[TemjinGold]

Ahh... hope you get it working!

 

[PCTC2]

I don't really care what people say I should get. I have tried almost every "good" solid state (look at my sig and see how many I own). I current use Intel X25-M's, Samsung 470's, 830's, Crucial M4's, MC G2's, Corsair Force3, PNY XLR8, and a single 256GB Vertex 4.

It doesn't really matter for me since only a single PC of mine is SATA 6Gbps (SB/H77), with a 2x 120GB Sandforce-2281 drives. It is fast.

I put my Vertex 4 into my X58 rig (Core i7 920/GTX 670) and even though it is limited by the interface, I never have faced any issues and it is very responsive, even under high I/O load. (The hope is to keep the drive when I finally go Xeon/C602 for the workstation). I enjoy it better than my X25-M (which is so far my most reliable, but it is showing its age).

 

[bryanW1995]

I'm sure you would. I don't want to pick up anything else. As I explained in the post, that isn't my question. I have not seen this drive on any of the massive sales and it not being SandForce, I'm genuinely interested if we have any Vertex 4 owners on this site and what their experience has been like. If this is indeed a great drive based on personal user experience, I am interested in trying one.

I was responding to your comment that the vertex 4 allegedly "tops the charts in performance.". I listed a widely recognized real world test that doesn't list the vertex 4 as the fastest. I didn't say anything about reliability.

 

[B-Riz]

After a round about way of getting it working, so far so good!

I had to install Win 7 on the V4, then Intel RST drivers and Todo Backup Free.

Made a full drive image of old SSD RAID 0 array to a HDD and rebooted into old array.

From there, restored image to the V4, booted to V4, ran check disk, and voila.

I have not had time to use the computer a lot, so long term / stress testing results are not available.

 

[TemjinGold]

I was responding to your comment that the vertex 4 allegedly "tops the charts in performance.". I listed a widely recognized real world test that doesn't list the vertex 4 as the fastest. I didn't say anything about reliability.

My apologies then. However, what I'm going off is that I used to own a Vertex 2 and my G2. Side by side, I was able to tell a tangible difference, so I can only imagine what a Vertex 4 can do. It wasn't even a placebo effect mainly because I had a system problem (thought it was the SSD; later turned out to be my crappy Ballistix) and I REALLY wanted swapping to the G2 to be the solution (hence a placebo would have me thinking the G2 was faster).

B-Riz - Thanks!

PCTC2 - You said your X-25M is still your most reliable, which I'm guessing implies the Vertex 4 had at least some reliability issues? Can you elaborate?

 

[Rubycon]

Vertex 4 is not compatible with Areca SAS hosts. That's all I know.
Also it does not seem to hold up under high stress. For typical single user use in a PC it should be fine with the latest firmware.

TBH If I were looking for the highest performing single user SSD right now I'd look at Plextor's new offering.

 

[B-Riz]

I grabbed one on a whim.

189.99 free s/h from the 'Egg on a shell shocker.

Upgrade from 2 x 40GB Intel SSD's.

Being that they now own their own firmware and released 1.5 with a freebie boost in speed, it shows goodwill towards customers.

Read this: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/05/the-hot-crazy-solid-state-drive-scale.html

I do back ups and all that fun stuff.

But I run on SATA 2, so the high speeds of the drive are irrelevant right now.

Hopefully nothing crops up before it gets to run on SATA 3.

 

[CrimsonWolf]

I grabbed a 256 GB Vertex 4 a couple weeks ago when Amazon had a deal on it. It benches in the ballpark of the reviews with the recent firmware and it works great so far. It came with 1.4 firmware on it so it was non-destructive to update it to 1.5. It's faster than my old 128 GB m4, but that's more to do with me also moving from an X58 with SATA2 to a Z77 with SATA3.

 

[railven]

Hello, I bought a Vertex 4 about the time they came out (sometime in June), and so far I've had 13 random crashes. After some trouble shooting I can't verify if the cause was the drive or a combination of things, but I can safely say I never had the issue prior to swapping out my old RAID0 2x500GB SATA drives for it.

The problem always seem to happen after the PC was idle for about 30+ minutes. I assume the drive may have being having issues come out of sleep, but sometimes it would happen when I tired to access a game (stored on a separate drive.)

Using the latest firmware 1.5.2, haven't had an issue yet. But then again, the issue wasn't consisent (ie 3 crashes in a day, fine for a week, two crashes in a day day span, fine for two weeks, 4 crashes in a day, fine for 2 more weeks, 3 crashes in a day.) I updated the F/W...August 6th? No crashes since.

I had a thread over at OCZ forums, the issue was so random I couldn't figure what was causing it. I'm starting to think it was a driver conflict or a C-State issue.

 

[bryanW1995]

Sleep mode has been a problem for ssd's since day 1, particularly OCZ. I used to think that it was a sandforce issue, but this makes me wonder if it isn't just a symptom of OCZ's typical rush to get the product onto the shelf before it's quite ready.

My apologies then. However, what I'm going off is that I used to own a Vertex 2 and my G2. Side by side, I was able to tell a tangible difference, so I can only imagine what a Vertex 4 can do. It wasn't even a placebo effect mainly because I had a system problem (thought it was the SSD; later turned out to be my crappy Ballistix) and I REALLY wanted swapping to the G2 to be the solution (hence a placebo would have me thinking the G2 was faster).

B-Riz - Thanks!

PCTC2 - You said your X-25M is still your most reliable, which I'm guessing implies the Vertex 4 had at least some reliability issues? Can you elaborate?

I could tell a difference between my x25m g2 and a single m4, though obviously going the x25m g2 to raid 0 with 2 m4's on the exact same rig made a particularly large difference. Even exdeath would have been a bit excited about that leap. I think. If you're only worried about speed, I would follow Rubycon's advice below if you haven't bought already. If you have bought, then the vertex 4 is extremely fast as well.

Vertex 4 is not compatible with Areca SAS hosts. That's all I know.
Also it does not seem to hold up under high stress. For typical single user use in a PC it should be fine with the latest firmware.

TBH If I were looking for the highest performing single user SSD right now I'd look at Plextor's new offering.

 

[TemjinGold]

I have not bought already. I thought the new M5 was more of a value drive?

 

[Rubycon]

I have not bought already. I thought the new M5 was more of a value drive?

That would be the widely available M5S. What you want is the M5P.

 

[tweakboy]

I've been using a Vertex 4 512GB for almost 2 months now, no problems. A friend of mine bought one of the smaller capacity variants about a month before I bought mine, and it's working fine as well.

The hate for the Vertex is quite strong on this forum, while the Crucial and 830 is getting a lot of praise. Interesting, when another friend of mine has had 2 crucial's die on him...

I went M4 because I wanted 512GB SSD so I can put os apps audi stuff since IM sata 2.0. Its

The 830 512GB is /was 700 dollars. Crucial M4 399 dollars to the door step.

What justified the 300 dollars more for sammy. If I was rich I would probably get the 830 but I go its ok,,,, I dont even have sata 3 ,, which doesnt matter in boot time and app time.

The 830 512GB came out was 1200 dollars. Crucial was 850 dollars.

this is when they first came out to consumers thats how much it was.

 

[tweakboy]

Im happy M4 has a good controller. no problems, I updated to latest 1fff bios..did firmware and Im 2.0 sata old system and it flys like my dads 6gbps 375mbps is his ssd ,, This is faster this launches Photoshop CS5 in 2 seconds. Boot time counted from window logo 20 seconds.......

And the funny part is I am using 512k instead of 4096KB. Cuz I did a image backup and then put it on it external. Is tehre a diff in speed between 512k and 4096kb ? Or maybe theree is no difference.. cuz its nice and fast...

 

[Rvenger]

Happy Vertex 4 owner here Latest firmware 1.5 and no problems at all.

 

[TemjinGold]

That would be the widely available M5S. What you want is the M5P.

Ahh... is this out yet? And are there any reviews for it?