Right or wrong, this will fuel the push for tighter controls on voting, it's bad optics. It will be very easy to claim tampering, and a whole bunch of people will make that claim.
Right or wrong, this will fuel the push for tighter controls on voting, it's bad optics. It will be very easy to claim tampering, and a whole bunch of people will make that claim.Apparently the election truthers are coming out again for Bergen County in NJ because they can't accept losing.
Apparently Bergen reported being 100% counted last night without counting any of their mail in ballots, which had the Republican candidate winning. Now that they are reporting the mail in ballots he's losing - their response? It's more likely that Democrats cheated than to think that a county as large as Bergen had zero mail in ballots.
Shitarelli was going to fuck with the schools, which are among the best in the nation, and try to put a monkey wrench in the recreational marijuana program, because GQP'ers are all about Freedumbs
This creates uncertainty and unbalanced election periods based on where a voter lives. If a voter lives in a city with a USPS sorting facility, they might be able to mail their ballot the day before the election and have the vote count while in other locales, a voter might have to mail their ballot a week earlier.And there is no reason to not follow the other 35 states in having a uniform deadline for ballot receipt (election day), as either mailing in ballot early or dropping in drop box on election day puts no impediment to voting.
It only creates bad optics when dishonest media and dishonest politicians push bullshit narratives.Right or wrong, this will fuel the push for tighter controls on voting, it's bad optics. It will be very easy to claim tampering, and a whole bunch of people will make that claim.
You need an exception for unforeseen events. You want to hold people to deadlines in San Francisco if they suffered a 9.2 earthquake 1 week before the election? Or a pandemic?Why I am against allowing ballots received after election day? (which is only allowed in ~15 states, others all disallow late ballots)
1) Unnecessarily strings out and complicates the entire election process, particularly for federal elections
2) Which, while it has no actual impact on election security, greatly reinforces the perception of the possibility of election fraud, which reinforces recent Republican disinformation campaigns.
Timely elections processes helps remove one path for destroying democracy through distrust.
And there is no reason to not follow the other 35 states in having a uniform deadline for ballot receipt (election day), as either mailing in ballot early or dropping in drop box on election day puts no impediment to voting.
Right, liars will lie.Right or wrong, this will fuel the push for tighter controls on voting, it's bad optics. It will be very easy to claim tampering, and a whole bunch of people will make that claim.
Why say right or wrong when it's clearly wrong?Right or wrong, this will fuel the push for tighter controls on voting, it's bad optics. It will be very easy to claim tampering, and a whole bunch of people will make that claim.
I read something to this effect recently and I think it hits on the problem. What's going to kill our democracy isn't Trump and his nutjob followers, it's all the conservatives who have stood by for years now doing nothing because either they fear the crazies or they think they hate the Democrats more.Why say right or wrong when it's clearly wrong?
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There were enough mail in ballots to change 2000 and likely 2016 as well. Republicans just don't like it now that it isn't in their favor.That is because of the pandemic, leading millions to use it for the first time. Making it used widely enough to be the deciding factor in the future of the country.
With power, comes challenge. And now it is in the spotlight with a target on its back.
Not the first Republican campaign that "will never be acceptable", but it may be the one with the highest stakes. If people refuse to accept election results, we are breeding unrest.
There were enough mail in ballots to change 2000 and likely 2016 as well. Republicans just don't like it now that it isn't in their favor.
That's just as bad as the loons on the other side of the issue. You're assuming absolute integrity without question because you approve of the outcome. While I tend to agree with that assumption, shut up and sit down isn't a valid response.I think at the end Murphy probably wins by like 4-5 points.
Right, liars will lie.
This is the sort of garden variety error in tabulation that happens all the time and that our system already has checks in place to correct. There's no 'right or wrong' here, there's just the liars who are trying to undermine elections, who are wrong. It's loooooong past time for the people who claim to be responsible conservatives to push back against the crazies who are trying to undermine democracy because they can't accept losing.
Yes, they want to toss them because they think it will help them win the election, not because there is anything fraudulent about them.I don't know what the skew was before, but it was by and large Democrats who believed COVID was real, worth avoiding, and opted to skip in-person voting. Even yesterday, on a 48/52 vote... the mail in ballots were 75/25 split. Huge partisan difference. Throw in the increased volume, and you can see why Republicans are salivating at the idea of tossing those ballots.
I'm not assuming anything, and your attempt to #bothsides this is once again the problem I'm talking about - you need to stand up to the right wing crazies.That's just as bad as the loons on the other side of the issue. You're assuming absolute integrity without question because you approve of the outcome. While I tend to agree with that assumption, shut up and sit down isn't a valid response.
The real answer is to ignore them and expand voting rights.
It's not a lingering question, the procedures are well established. How are they too complex to trust?There is the lingering question of how mail-in ballots are secured and verified in the first place.
Something people do not understand can easily be exploited by bad actors as propaganda.
It is possible that the process is too complex for the average joe to appreciate and trust.
That mistrust could be an actual issue, and Republicans are driving it.
Damn Dems never learn. Why didn't we claim the election was going to be rigged before the election? Now we have no case. /sGonna be interesting to watch the Republicans win an election by claiming that it's racist and divisive to teach kids that race doesn't exist.
Because Republicans aren't racist or anything, it's just that the issue of race is really super important to them.
NOBODY ever said that. Stop with the strawman. In fact I've said no election has even been 100% perfect.That's just as bad as the loons on the other side of the issue. You're assuming absolute integrity without question because you approve of the outcome. While I tend to agree with that assumption, shut up and sit down isn't a valid response.
Generally agree. Surprised to see such a negative rating for Trump in Wisconsin though. I am not sure a negative "approval" rating for Trump necessarily ensures they will not vote for him though. Surprising how many people, evangelicals for instance, are willing to overlook his personal flaws because they feel he supports their agenda.A somewhat overlooked possibility I find interesting is that due to our unique circumstances many voters are just super cranky in general and are taking it out on the incumbents, whoever they may be.
Also that a Trump return could be much less welcomed than many are assuming.
Generally agree. Surprised to see such a negative rating for Trump in Wisconsin though. I am not sure a negative "approval" rating for Trump necessarily ensures they will not vote for him though.
Evangelicals are very open about their support for Trump - he consistently polls extremely high with them so they are not a case of people who claim to disapprove of him yet still vote for him. They are big fans.Surprising how many people, evangelicals for instance, are willing to overlook his personal flaws because they feel he supports their agenda.