Anyone do/know about TRT?

[brad310]

I was looking into the literature on TRT therapy. TBH, i like what im reading and it seems like it might be a good thing for me, but i dont know anyone that has ever done it.

I would love to hear some first hand accounts of anyone using it. It is a little daunting learning about it.

 

[gar655]

Only if it's recommended by a "good" doctor, not some quack looking to make money off scripts.

No good doctor will recommend it if you don't actually need it, and very, very few need it.

 

[deadken]

I was looking into the literature on TRT therapy. TBH, i like what im reading ...

I remember reading about it here in this section, see what a search brings up.

FWIW: I'm not a fan. Sure, if you are suffering from a testosterone I'm not against you using whatever you need to help. But, to play around just to get bigger gains seems stupid to me. From what I remember reading on the subject: the biggest reason men suffer from low testosterone is a Zinc and Magnesium deficiency. So, get some Zinc and Magnesium supplements and see if that helps. Secondly, once you start using some cream or whatever to raise your testosterone levels, your body cuts back its production (shrunken testicles anyone?). I don't know what would happen if you used a cream for years and then stopped using the cream. IOW: It sounds to me like a lifelong commitment. Given how well my marriage has worked out (IE: another lifelong commitment), I'll pass. If that sort of thing sounds good to you, perhaps you should consider Rogaine, Heroin, or at the very least you could marry my wife.

The thread I read here gave a bunch of good information. You'll need to get tested and see what your levels are (something about testosterone, free testosterone, etc...). After that, a competent doctor could make suggestions. If not, you have found one that wants to make money and if that is the case, consider asking him for some oxycontin...

 

[Zivic]

I remember reading about it here in this section, see what a search brings up.

FWIW: I'm not a fan. Sure, if you are suffering from a testosterone I'm not against you using whatever you need to help. But, to play around just to get bigger gains seems stupid to me. From what I remember reading on the subject: the biggest reason men suffer from low testosterone is a Zinc and Magnesium deficiency. So, get some Zinc and Magnesium supplements and see if that helps. Secondly, once you start using some cream or whatever to raise your testosterone levels, your body cuts back its production (shrunken testicles anyone?). I don't know what would happen if you used a cream for years and then stopped using the cream. IOW: It sounds to me like a lifelong commitment. Given how well my marriage has worked out (IE: another lifelong commitment), I'll pass. If that sort of thing sounds good to you, perhaps you should consider Rogaine, Heroin, or at the very least you could marry my wife.

The thread I read here gave a bunch of good information. You'll need to get tested and see what your levels are (something about testosterone, free testosterone, etc...). After that, a competent doctor could make suggestions. If not, you have found one that wants to make money and if that is the case, consider asking him for some oxycontin...

if you are at a level where you legitimately 'need' test replacement, your levels are pretty low. your body cutting back production will have very minimal impact on your condition.

You would be correct in thinking that it is a life long commitment,,,,,,, if you want the benefits of the treatment

first things first, go to an endo and get your levels tested.

 

[deadken]

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You would be correct in thinking that it is a life long commitment,,,,,,, if you want the benefits of the treatment

first things first, go to an endo and get your levels tested.

FWIW: I have always found that trimming the message that you are quoting to help others figure out exactly what part you are referring to.

Now, here is the thing, the OP stated: "TBH, i like what im reading and it seems like it might be a good thing for me...". The issue I have with this whole thing is that he doesn't mention that it sounds like he has a low testosterone condition and it sounds like this could / would help. Instead, it seems like just another person looking for a shortcut. IMO, that would be the wrong reason to do it. Which is why I threw in some humor, but still suggested that he get checked out by a competent doctor.

 

[Zivic]

FWIW: I have always found that trimming the message that you are quoting to help others figure out exactly what part you are referring to.

Now, here is the thing, the OP stated: "TBH, i like what im reading and it seems like it might be a good thing for me...". The issue I have with this whole thing is that he doesn't mention that it sounds like he has a low testosterone condition and it sounds like this could / would help. Instead, it seems like just another person looking for a shortcut. IMO, that would be the wrong reason to do it. Which is why I threw in some humor, but still suggested that he get checked out by a competent doctor.

I agree.. people are always quick to blame a "condition" for something that diet/exersize or some other life style change would more than take care of. I mean it's never that they eat, smoke, drink, lay around too much.. it's not my fault

 

[norseamd]

I agree.. people are always quick to blame a "condition" for something that diet/exersize or some other life style change would more than take care of. I mean it's never that they eat, smoke, drink, lay around too much.. it's not my fault

not me

i know that i am a lazy bastard

 

[brad310]

Now, here is the thing, the OP stated: "TBH, i like what im reading and it seems like it might be a good thing for me...". The issue I have with this whole thing is that he doesn't mention that it sounds like he has a low testosterone condition and it sounds like this could / would help. Instead, it seems like just another person looking for a shortcut. IMO, that would be the wrong reason to do it. Which is why I threw in some humor, but still suggested that he get checked out by a competent doctor.

Thank you for judging me without knowing the first thing about me, and replying in this thread that clearly needed your ignorant baseless assertion.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Thank you for judging me without knowing the first thing about me, and replying in this thread that clearly needed your ignorant baseless assertion.

It's a forum. If you didn't want opinions, you shouldn't have asked. Don't ask us about TRT - ask your physician.

 

[Zivic]

It's a forum. If you didn't want opinions, you shouldn't have asked. Don't ask us about TRT - ask your physician.

knock me over with a feather!

Loved that response :bigthumbsup:

 

[deadken]

Thank you for judging me without knowing the first thing about me, and replying in this thread that clearly needed your ignorant baseless assertion.

Did you even read what I wrote?!? If you did, I think your reading comprehension sucks... I clearly stated that the issue "I" had (notice, I didn't say "YOU") was how it looked to me. I then, again, clearly stated "that he (the OP) doesn't mention" which implies that there is a lack of information. So, I said that it "seems like" showing what I was assuming based on the information I had. To wrap it all up, I said "IMO, that would be the wrong reason to do it", in case you didn't realize the "IMO" part stands for "In My Opinion".

Simply put: If you think that I was judging you then you are mistaken.

I'll stand by my "baseless assertion" suggesting that you get checked out by a competent doctor.

Now, if I wanted to judge you and make assumptions I would have said something like: Perhaps you do have low testosterone levels... You sound like a whining little bitch. See the difference?!?

As is usual, SC hits the nail on the head... Bravo!

 

[alkemyst]

No good doctor will recommend it if you don't actually need it, and very, very few need it.

You didn't qualify your statement, if your are talking those 30 years old and more this is not true at all.

Many men when tested properly will show a reduction. There is research showing a potential link to reduced testosterone and the onset of heart disease.

The first thing to do is get tested properly and by a 'real' doctor. Other things these tests can show are things like cortisol being out of whack (stress factors usually) which can also cause a lot of havok.

The next thing for any kind of therapy that is significant, you will be dealing with a deep muscle injection at least once per week.

I need to get back on TRT. My testosterone was very low when I was tested and my cortisol was off the chart. My libido was never an indicator. My sex drive is always high, however; I'd get the typical afternoon 'fog' that affects people.

My body would literally want to just go to sleep and I couldn't concentrate.

My therapy was very expensive (~$60/week), the testosterone part was cheap and many insurance companies will cover it. However; they will not cover the anti-estrogens, things like HCG, cortisol lowering medications, and the like. I was also taking very high quality vitamins.

I was feeling great on all of this, stress became a non-event and it felt like there was nothing I couldn't accomplish.

 

[alkemyst]

FWIW: I have always found that trimming the message that you are quoting to help others figure out exactly what part you are referring to.

Now, here is the thing, the OP stated: "TBH, i like what im reading and it seems like it might be a good thing for me...". The issue I have with this whole thing is that he doesn't mention that it sounds like he has a low testosterone condition and it sounds like this could / would help. Instead, it seems like just another person looking for a shortcut. IMO, that would be the wrong reason to do it. Which is why I threw in some humor, but still suggested that he get checked out by a competent doctor.

Your posts seems to be lacking understanding of what TRT is and solutions to things that may happen because of it. Using HCG with TRT keeps one's testes from atrophy.

With true "low T" supplements are not going to fix it.

The OP may have the symptoms of low T and why he feels it's a good match for him. You immediately assume he is just looking for gains in the gym.

TRT is not a good way for 'gains in the gym'. In reality, other steroids would be far superior and more than likely cheaper than a complete TRT plan.

The idea behind TRT is it just gets you back into what the normal ranges of testosterone are for a man in his prime.