Anyone else considering not joining the next generation?

[BoberFett]

I always wait a couple of years to see how things shake out. Being an early adopter for a new console sucks, IMO.

Early titles generally kinda suck because developers are just learning the system, and they're focusing on flash instead of substance. The final games of the outgoing system are often better than the first games of the new system.

Second, the initial run of hardware is usually plagued by bad design, which gets fixed after a revision or two.

Third, the price on both the console and the games drops after a couple of years. The system will land at it's long term price rather than the inflated initial price, and there will be a bunch of greatest hits titles that you can pick up for $20.

 

[purbeast0]

I always wait a couple of years to see how things shake out. Being an early adopter for a new console sucks, IMO.

Early titles generally kinda suck because developers are just learning the system, and they're focusing on flash instead of substance. The final games of the outgoing system are often better than the first games of the new system.

Second, the initial run of hardware is usually plagued by bad design, which gets fixed after a revision or two.

Third, the price on both the console and the games drops after a couple of years. The system will land at it's long term price rather than the inflated initial price, and there will be a bunch of greatest hits titles that you can pick up for $20.

this can basically be said about any piece of technology there is.

 

[Dranoche]

I told myself at the start of the current (or last?) generation that I wasn't going to buy another console, but then I found myself with a Wii on launch day and a PS3 after a price drop. 6-12 months after buying the PS3 - which I honestly picked up for the Blu-ray player with very little interest in any of the exclusives at the time - I found myself with more games for the PS3 than for the Wii.

It is incredibly likely that I will end up with a Wii-U and a PS4 eventually, but with the lack of new titles from a few key Nintendo franchises and the likely high entrance cost of the PS4 I will be catching up on my backlog on Steam. I really only touch consoles for exclusives, so I am more than comfortable waiting.

 

[BoberFett]

this can basically be said about any piece of technology there is.

I never said it couldn't, but I think it's moreso for consoles than just about any other piece of consumer tech.

 

[JD50]

this can basically be said about any piece of technology there is.

Sure, but most pieces of technology are obsolete after 1 or 2 years, that's not the case with consoles and console games.

 

[kalrith]

I will probably skip this gen of consoles. When I bought my PS3 in 2007, I got it for $320, which was cheaper than the cheapest stand-alone BD player. That was a big selling point for me, because I wanted the BD player anyways.

Like others in this thread, I have a big backlog of PS3 and PC games. I'm more of a PC gamer anyways, so I'll probably just buy the PC versions of whatever games I want (except console exclusives, obviously).

If the price eventually drops to $200 or my PS3 dies, then I might buy a new system. I doubt either will happen for a while though

 

[cmdrdredd]

I will for sure get a ps4 no doubt about it. I am just a sucker for gaming I guess lol.

 

[tonyb78]

I held out for a good long while on getting a PS3, so I imagine I'll be doing the same unless I find a wad of cash that doesn't need to go anywhere. Honestly, I really want to play some old RPGs right now. Think I'll boot up the emulators.

 

[exdeath]

Depends what NamcoBandai, Level 5, Atlus, etc have planned. Probably a PS4.

Don't think I'll be getting a ShooterBox this time around. Kinda sick of the whole Xbox crowd and "im too badass for myself" characters and military shooters.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Depends what NamcoBandai, Level 5, Atlus, etc have planned. Probably a PS4.

Don't think I'll be getting a ShooterBox this time around. Kinda sick of the whole Xbox crowd and "im too badass for myself" characters and military shooters.

Persona 5...please Atlus! Heck there's so much potential for the multiplayer tie-in with the PS4 it's ridiculous. How about calling in your friends to help with a dungeon? Run through it together with your persona and skills.

Anyway...I'm with you on the whole shooter thing these days. Outside of Halo and a couple games on PC that happen to be good FPS games (Crysis 3, Bioshock) I don't get it. Maybe Killzone on PS4...gotta see a review first though. Aside from those I really don't care. BF4, CoD, Gears...they can all fade away to me.

 

[purbeast0]

i do love this whole troll thread. dude posted it and hasn't returned. well done.

 

[chalmers]

i do love this whole troll thread. dude posted it and hasn't returned. well done.

Whatever it takes to get us all arguing with each other I guess...

 

[xXdragonbatXX]

I was going to buy a PS4 but then saw the price and fell off my chair laughing.

 

[z1ggy]

Can't see myself buying a ps4, at least right off the bat. I barely use my ps3 as is, and when I do it's for playing the occasional game like, hitman, metal gear, bioshock or whatever. No FPS on my console, I leave that to my PC.

Pretty soon I will be hooking my PC up to my 50'' plasma with 5.1 surround and at that point my ps3 will just become a large paper weight.

 

[sze5003]

The price will mostly be 400 or 450. With the ps3 launch price of 600 they didn't hit a mass market there.

 

[smackababy]

The price will mostly be 400 or 450. With the ps3 launch price of 600 they didn't hit a mass market there.

Part of the PS3's price was because of the bluray drive though. Drives aren't nearly the price they were when the PS3 came out, so that should help keep the cost down.

 

[PricklyPete]

I will definitely be getting a next gen console. Likely the next Xbox...primarily because I have never used a play station controller that I liked.

 

[WildW]

Honestly I don't see the point in consoles any more. Historically console and computer games were totally different beasts.

It used to be that consoles would come out and be far more capable of the computers of the day. Computers of the day couldn't keep up with Genesis/Super Nintendo/Playstation/Dreamcast/XBox when they arrived. We know that the next consoles are both APU driven PCs now?

The consoles were always about a bunch of friends playing together on the sofa. . . Mario Kart, Bomberman, Goldeneye . . . things that never worked on a PC. Now it seems the big releases are also PC games, so I play on PC with all the benefits. There are hardly any "console" games made any more, and those there are seem to be mostly on the kids' arm-waving console.

 

[Dumac]

It used to be that consoles would come out and be far more capable of the computers of the day. Computers of the day couldn't keep up with Genesis/Super Nintendo/Playstation/Dreamcast/XBox when they arrived. We know that the next consoles are both APU driven PCs now?

What? This was never the case. Computers have always been ahead of consoles.

It isn't like consoles used to use some magic technology and just recently convertedto PC hardware.

Now it seems the big releases are also PC games, so I play on PC with all the benefits. There are hardly any "console" games made any more, and those there are seem to be mostly on the kids' arm-waving console.

Do you live in opposite land or something?

 

[oznerol]

I'm at a point where it's less about games and more about other features that will sell me on the next generation - likely because my actual game playing has slowed down greatly.

I want it to locally stream any kind of media I can throw at it. I want it to power on very quickly. I want it to be able to interact with other devices, be it smartphone or tablet. I want it to have a comprehensive online presence and store.

And I would ideally like it to support downloaded games from this generation (XBLA/PSN). Sony has acknowledged that the PS4 is out in that regard, so we'll have to see if Microsoft delivers. Backwards compatibility for disc-based games, I don't really care about.

All that said, I'm actually more curious about Apple's rumored new offering in the TV market, as the majority of my game playing has been on mobile as of late.

 

[kalrith]

For me the difference between PCs and consoles in the past compared to now is price. Computers used to be much, much more expensive than consoles. Investing in a PC as a gaming system was not comparable price-wise to a console.

A true gaming PC is still likely more than a console, but if someone's going to buy a $400 Dell anyways, then dropping a $150 video card in it is cheaper than spending another $400 on a PS4.

 

[WildW]

What? This was never the case. Computers have always been ahead of consoles.

It isn't like consoles used to use some magic technology and just recently convertedto PC hardware.

Do you live in opposite land or something?

Early 90's. Super Nintendo and Sega Megadrive/Genesis were way better than my Commodore Amiga. The Amiga had useless ports of the likes of Streetfighter 2, could've never managed Sonic the Hedgehog or Super Mario World. Even as late as the original XBox, my PC couldn't have run a driving game as slick as Project Gotham Racing.

You're right though. When the Playstation was doing early 3D, expensive PCs could do it better, and I've just got a better PC now than I had then. My real point here is the lack of variation between PC and console titles now. There just aren't so many games that are exclusive to consoles now. . . at least that I'm interested in. And multiplayer games are mostly online now. . . and I always had the most fun actually in the same room as my friends.

 

[smackababy]

You know, it just dawned on me that I actually hope my arcade sticks carry over to the next gen. It would be a big disappointment to have to buy all new fight sticks. I know I would just try and find a way to mod mine rather that buy new ones. So if Sony and MS think they can help 3rd party accessory vendors by doing this, they won't get a dime of my money!

 

[BoberFett]

What? This was never the case. Computers have always been ahead of consoles.

It isn't like consoles used to use some magic technology and just recently convertedto PC hardware.



Do you live in opposite land or something?

Back in the SNES days, consoles had specialized hardware designed for things like very fast blitting. A fast enough computer to match a console was very expensive, several grand at the time. If I'm remembering my timelines correctly, when the Genesis and SNES came out, EGA was still the dominant graphics format, and VGA was just starting to become common. So actually, consoles did have magic technology, comparatively. PCs at the time were business machines that were in the early stages of being adapted to gaming.

Nowadays that doesn't hold true, and with computer prices having falling greatly, a console is only better than the average cheapie computer with it's crappy onboard Intel video, a powerhouse PC will blow a console away.

Still, consoles have their advantages.

 

[exdeath]

You know, it just dawned on me that I actually hope my arcade sticks carry over to the next gen. It would be a big disappointment to have to buy all new fight sticks. I know I would just try and find a way to mod mine rather that buy new ones. So if Sony and MS think they can help 3rd party accessory vendors by doing this, they won't get a dime of my money!

Let me introduce you to my little friend. It's name is CPLD/FPGA. :awe:

Most controllers these days are using a clocked shift register, it wouldn't be difficult at all to make an adapter.