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skipsneeky2

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May 21, 2011
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The tanks confuse me...most times it takes about what 2 hits to disable a tank?

Just got hit by a tank just once and it took out about 80% of my health with the second shot destroying me and my tank.

Did he fire a nuclear warhead or what cause i fired back and i never got myself a vehicle disable...he was maybe like 10 feet from me.

Never was able to fully destroy a tank with 2 main gun shots...never.

Weapon upgrade perhaps? I'm a lowly rank 17 i guess my tank still fires tampons ?
 

s44

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Tanks are more vulnerable in the back. So if you can flank one, that's the way.

People who've leveled up tanks may be using the reactive armor loadout, which ignores the first shot no matter how powerful.
 

reallyscrued

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I used RPGs to clear out trees in front of stationary AA. Its kind of lame that you cannot use the AA gun to do it like in BC2.

Really like the last video in your sig dude, but I think you labeled it as a game that doesn't exist.
 

skipsneeky2

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Tanks are more vulnerable in the back. So if you can flank one, that's the way.

People who've leveled up tanks may be using the reactive armor loadout, which ignores the first shot no matter how powerful.

Confrontation was head to head...iv'e done hundreds of these and there's the rare occasion one hit simply disables my tank...so he fired i was diasabled i fired...then he fired again and boom.

Didn't get any disabled points cause i can assume my tank fired tampons...curious to know is there a unlock to turn my cannon fires from tampons to nuclear warheads?

The first hit had my tank up in flames about to explode with the gtfo siren ringing,but my first hit didn't even bother even scratching his tank in the killcam .
 

skipsneeky2

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When you're going heads up against a tank, try to get it so you're face is pointing in the direction of his gun so he hits your front armor when he blasts you.

Both our front armor was exposed it was like two pitt bulls scraping over steak.

Two identical hits from the two of us front to front iv'e done it so many times it isn't funny but the outcome was very different this time around:\

Thinking maybe it was a packet lost or something cause after the killcam i was disconnected from the server.
 

M0oG0oGaiPan

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Both our front armor was exposed it was like two pitt bulls scraping over steak.

Two identical hits from the two of us front to front iv'e done it so many times it isn't funny but the outcome was very different this time around:\

Thinking maybe it was a packet lost or something cause after the killcam i was disconnected from the server.

That sucks. For the record thought, I usually end up losing all my tank vs tank battles. I prefer being the gunner/repair man.
 

zerocool84

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The tanks confuse me...most times it takes about what 2 hits to disable a tank?

Just got hit by a tank just once and it took out about 80% of my health with the second shot destroying me and my tank.

Did he fire a nuclear warhead or what cause i fired back and i never got myself a vehicle disable...he was maybe like 10 feet from me.

Never was able to fully destroy a tank with 2 main gun shots...never.

Weapon upgrade perhaps? I'm a lowly rank 17 i guess my tank still fires tampons ?

Maybe another tank or RPG shotgun hit you at the same time and you didn't know it.
 

skipsneeky2

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That sucks. For the record thought, I usually end up losing all my tank vs tank battles. I prefer being the gunner/repair man.

It's about 50/50 for me if i feel i'm about to go down first i jump out and fire a rpg which ensures me every time i win the confrontation but i make sure its loaded cause there isn't a second to lose when i jump out.

The lag from my dual core swaying my lmg gun as gunner has me a lot of times missing so destroying tanks or using the aa is my best bet till i get my new system up and running.
 

skipsneeky2

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Maybe another tank or RPG shotgun hit you at the same time and you didn't know it.

Map was Caspian and its the dirt road that leads to e from the russian base...as soon as i was about to pull into e this tank races towards me and confronts me and blocks me entering e almost like he expected my arrival lol...no engineers around .
 

taserbro

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I will agree I haven't played engineer or AA very much...so I haven't been in too many AA vehicles either...

The vehicle aspect is something I didn't consider and isn't really bound by the amount of time it takes to lock on so that is good...

As for a mobile or stationary AA do you know if the weapons advance as you get more experience? I mean the jets have counter measures to delay me locking on...as you level up to the AA weapons get more perks as well to counter their counter measures?

This isn't an counter-counter measure per say but I noticed that the last unlock of main battle tanks, the civ station, can lock onto any vehicle (including both types of drones and even mortars) and completely ignores flares and smoke (but not distance, obviously).

Because the thing is so little used due to being useless from nobody using guided shells and 99% of pubs being uncoordinated loners, I figured that the part where it ignores flares might very well be an undiscovered bug currently waiting to be patched out but as of now, if someone in a mbt tank's targeting station paints a jet or a chopper and there's an AA tank equipped with sams or a few engineers with stingers, the pilot is pretty much completely boned unless he can quickly put some landscape between the incoming ordnance and his craft.
 

Worthington

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Why would flares work? They are for use against heat seeking munitions, not laser designated. I abuse the CITV station every chance I get. It's quite effective against choppers but unless a jet pilot is poor the guided shell moves too slowely to be any real threat.
 

Mandres

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I figured that the part where it ignores flares might very well be an undiscovered bug currently waiting to be patched out but as of now, if someone in a mbt tank's targeting station paints a jet or a chopper and there's an AA tank equipped with sams or a few engineers with stingers, the pilot is pretty much completely boned unless he can quickly put some landscape between the incoming ordnance and his craft.


I thought it worked like the recon's SOFLAM where it designates targets for Javelins or guided tank shells? Those two ignore flares because they track via laser and not heat signature. It shouldn't have make any difference at all for Stingers/AA missiles/Aircraft missiles.

Still awesome if you have a guy in the 3rd seat designating targets and the driver launched guided shells, but that requires some co-ordination.

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goobernoodles

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Map was Caspian and its the dirt road that leads to e from the russian base...as soon as i was about to pull into e this tank races towards me and confronts me and blocks me entering e almost like he expected my arrival lol...no engineers around .
There's no voodoo magic to tanking. You probably got hit by an rpg, another tank, or ran over a land mine at the time you got hit.
 

Lonbjerg

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Tried BF3 at a pal.
I could take it for 45 sek.

Then I went home and fired up ARMA2.

BF3 is a kiddyshooter for me.
 
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Map was Caspian and its the dirt road that leads to e from the russian base...as soon as i was about to pull into e this tank races towards me and confronts me and blocks me entering e almost like he expected my arrival lol...no engineers around .

In BF2, if you hit the area between the turret and the body of the tank, you would do obscene amounts of bonus damage. That might still exist in BF3
 

NTAC

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The AA vehicles don't do jack vs aircraft though, because in real life it takes a short burst to take down a plane or helo. I know, I know, it's a balance issue..........But yes get me the Tunguska and I will own Operation Firestorm.

Oh sure, I mean, it would be really bad for the Jets if all you had to do is hit them with a burst But usually as I'm sure you've already seen, once a Jet flies too close he is done for, because if you lead correctly you can disable it before your guns overheat and then on top of that if you get the dual missiles as well... Probably a good idea that there is only 1 AA vehicle per map.

The tanks confuse me...most times it takes about what 2 hits to disable a tank?

Just got hit by a tank just once and it took out about 80% of my health with the second shot destroying me and my tank.

Did he fire a nuclear warhead or what cause i fired back and i never got myself a vehicle disable...he was maybe like 10 feet from me.

Never was able to fully destroy a tank with 2 main gun shots...never.

Weapon upgrade perhaps? I'm a lowly rank 17 i guess my tank still fires tampons ?

There is no upgrade for shell damage as far as I know, but there is upgrade for armor:

REACTIVE ARMOR
Reactive armor panels and/or slats absorb the impact from anti-tank weapons, protecting you from damage but becoming destroyed in the process.

This is one of the last tank upgrades you get though, so the odds taht your oppoonent had this are probably low, but who knows.

You should go to an empty server, or near empty server, take a tank and experiment and fire on other unmaned tanks and see where most of the damage is and what not.
 

taserbro

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Why would flares work? They are for use against heat seeking munitions, not laser designated. I abuse the CITV station every chance I get. It's quite effective against choppers but unless a jet pilot is poor the guided shell moves too slowely to be any real threat.

I stand corrected then.
I could have sworn it worked with stingers and sams too since no one ever uses guided shell in mbts and I've occasionally gotten "target designated destroyed" 50 point bonus on choppers when I've tried to make them back off my area using the lock-on bluff.
 

Destiny

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Yeah, it was a typo, I added that link late at night. I would correct it, but people seem to notice it more so....

And thanks!

Watching your new video reminds me of the CS days back in 1999... I see you use the lowered power sniper scope to wreak havoc... with the G18 it just seems unfair to everyone else...
 

bigaug

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I'm disappointed. However, I think it's because my tastes have changed. I just don't think I really enjoy competitive multilayer games anymore. I prefer single player or cooperative stuff these days. It's not really that much of a surprise I guess. I've been doing the online fps thing since the original counterstrike. It just gets old. I need some story, lore, character development. I need something more than just killing/point capturing for the sake of it. I wish I could get a refund for it.

The graphics are good and it's a good game for what it is though. The rocket launchers got real annoying real fast though.
 
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skipsneeky2

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Is Ea gonna fix their servers?

Was just in a 900 ticket round i worked my ass off to earn 3500 points against some real hard asses took me about a hour then i'm disconnected with this beautiful pop up"you were disconnected from Ea online" and yes i lost those points....

Or at least patch it so if someone is disconnected you still keep your points cause that really is discouraging.
 
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